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32 minutes ago, Melbx15 said:

Anybody else notice how the manhattan division that’s helping out in The Bronx are not doing full runs they’re short turning, same with some Bronx depots helping other Bronx depots. 

Bx1/bx2 ( covered by MJQ)- Mott haven - Fordham rd 

Bx9 (covered by WF & MCH)-
west farms square  - broadway 225st 

bx15 covered by WF & MCH) - 149 st to Fordham plaza 

bx12 select Bus service (covered by MJQ)  - Pelham bay - University Ave 

bx41 local & select bus service - (covered by local WF, sbs MCH) 149st - Fordham rd 

Actually, some of those Manhattan trips actually DO make the whole trip. Today's Bx12 SBS MJQ runs (#6107 and #6227) went from Bay Plaza to Inwood, and started again at Fordham Plaza heading Bay Plaza. But yeah, most of them are short turns.

 

If I could fix your list up a bit, the typical weekday trips actually look like this:

Bx1/Bx2 (MJQ) - Mott Haven to and from Fordham Rd 

Bx3 (MHV, MJQ) - Washington Heights to and from Kingsbridge Road (a few trips go up to Riverdale)

Bx4 / A (WF) - Usually interlines with the Bx40 / 42 trips

Bx9 (WF, MCH, OH) - West Farms / Riverdale to and from 225th Street & Bway (The trips will often run from either end of the route to 225th and then go back, or will just make the entire trip)

Bx12 / SBS  (MJQ, MHV) - Usually make the whole trip but some trips end at University Avenue or Fordham Plaza 

Bx15 (WF, OH) - 149 st to and from Fordham plaza 

Bx28 (MHV, MCH) - Co-Op City to and from Norwood, with some trips going all the way to Fordham Center (the first day these loans started, an XD60 from OH ran on the line)

Bx41 / SBS (WF, MCH) - 149st to and from Fordham Plaza

Bx40 / 42 (WF) - Whole route

 

The weekend loans are a lot more interesting. One weekend, Staten Island did some trips. Another weekend it was Manhattan, and last weekend it was West Farms (an XN40 ran on the Bx7 and on the Bx28).

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1 hour ago, Melbx15 said:

Anybody else notice how the manhattan division that’s helping out in The Bronx are not doing full runs they’re short turning, same with some Bronx depots helping other Bronx depots. 

Bx1/bx2 ( covered by MJQ)- Mott haven - Fordham rd 

Bx9 (covered by WF & MCH)-
west farms square  - broadway 225st 

bx15 covered by WF & MCH) - 149 st to Fordham plaza 

bx12 select Bus service (covered by MJQ)  - Pelham bay - University Ave 

bx41 local & select bus service - (covered by local WF, sbs MCH) 149st - Fordham rd 

I was about to comment something similar to this earlier.

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3 hours ago, Melbx15 said:

Anybody else notice how the manhattan division that’s helping out in The Bronx are not doing full runs they’re short turning, same with some Bronx depots helping other Bronx depots. 

Bx1/bx2 ( covered by MJQ)- Mott haven - Fordham rd 

Bx9 (covered by WF & MCH)-
west farms square  - broadway 225st 

bx15 covered by WF & MCH) - 149 st to Fordham plaza 

bx12 select Bus service (covered by MJQ)  - Pelham bay - University Ave 

bx41 local & select bus service - (covered by local WF, sbs MCH) 149st - Fordham rd 

my understanding is that any depot that agreed to cover Bronx runs agreed not to take full runs (meaning full-time terminal to full-time terminal) or full run pay away from the lines intended depot... which guarantees that KB, GH & WF B/O's won't lose money on runs being assigned to the Quill's/Yukon's/Hale's of the world. 

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DISCLAIMER: I'm simply stating what I've heard in the KB swing room... if I'm inaccurate, and you can speak from a place of intimate/legitimate knowledge, holla at ya boy
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20 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

Mill Basin to Midwood, passing through Flatlands and Marine Park. It parallels the B2 for a decent part of its route. I think a lot of people in that part of Brooklyn mostly rely on north/south Brooklyn routes like the B41 and B46 and or they drive. The BM1 also runs with the B100 so I’m sure people use that as well over the B100 to the (B) and (Q) 

BM1?? Maybe not unless they want to walk to the Cortelyou Station 😂🤣

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21 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

That should be reported. That is unacceptable. I had a union rep in my advocacy group that was trying to condone such disgusting behavior from College Point, and we gave him the boot. 

Don't worry, I reported it. 

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3 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Also, I would think all it takes is to modify whatever pdf they use with with the new schedule plus whatever fixes they make to the dates and such on the front. So either they remake the pdfs from scratch each time (waste of time is an understatement with all the hidden cuts scattered within each timetable), or someone was tripping. 

Or someone hit the "Spell Check" button and pressed "replace" without reading too closely LOL

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14 hours ago, Q43LTD said:

I didn't know you could go from Mill Basin to Millwood for 2.75. Those Westchester residents wouldn't mind an (MTA) vehicle on their side of town. Nimbys be damned 

BxM3 & the Yonkers depot?

(I get your point though)

13 hours ago, EastFlatbushLarry said:

wow. how does something like this even happen by accident... letalone, make it to a website or revenue vehicle for public consumption? no system of checks & balances? then again, look at the "organization" in question smhh

I would say it was a rush-job, but considering what we're dealing with here, I'd say it's closer to carelessness & complacency,...

4 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said:

Or someone hit the "Spell Check" button and pressed "replace" without reading too closely LOL

If it were only possible for the public to "spell check" the MTA.......

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10 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said:

Actually, some of those Manhattan trips actually DO make the whole trip. Today's Bx12 SBS MJQ runs (#6107 and #6227) went from Bay Plaza to Inwood, and started again at Fordham Plaza heading Bay Plaza. But yeah, most of them are short turns.

 

If I could fix your list up a bit, the typical weekday trips actually look like this:

Bx1/Bx2 (MJQ) - Mott Haven to and from Fordham Rd 

Bx3 (MHV, MJQ) - Washington Heights to and from Kingsbridge Road (a few trips go up to Riverdale)

Bx4 / A (WF) - Usually interlines with the Bx40 / 42 trips

Bx9 (WF, MCH, OH) - West Farms / Riverdale to and from 225th Street & Bway (The trips will often run from either end of the route to 225th and then go back, or will just make the entire trip)

Bx12 / SBS  (MJQ, MHV) - Usually make the whole trip but some trips end at University Avenue or Fordham Plaza 

Bx15 (WF, OH) - 149 st to and from Fordham plaza 

Bx28 (MHV, MCH) - Co-Op City to and from Norwood, with some trips going all the way to Fordham Center (the first day these loans started, an XD60 from OH ran on the line)

Bx41 / SBS (WF, MCH) - 149st to and from Fordham Plaza

Bx40 / 42 (WF) - Whole route

 

The weekend loans are a lot more interesting. One weekend, Staten Island did some trips. Another weekend it was Manhattan, and last weekend it was West Farms (an XN40 ran on the Bx7 and on the Bx28).

West Farms has covered both the Bx1 and the Bx2.

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Posted (edited)

https://thecity.nyc/2020/04/amazon-warehouse-packers-in-staten-island-jam-onto-mta-buses.html?fbclid=IwAR1ILxyBjjDczbGv17QbE-pUtQOc4UVcPdHGJ0pA257IdTTHFSqTZH3sSYI

Headline: Amazon warehouse packers say they’re jammed onto staten island buses

 

Recently, most S40 buses are packed to/from the warehouse terminal

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10 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

West Farms has covered both the Bx1 and the Bx2.

 

20 hours ago, LegoBrickBreaker101 said:

Actually, some of those Manhattan trips actually DO make the whole trip. Today's Bx12 SBS MJQ runs (#6107 and #6227) went from Bay Plaza to Inwood, and started again at Fordham Plaza heading Bay Plaza. But yeah, most of them are short turns.

 

If I could fix your list up a bit, the typical weekday trips actually look like this:

Bx1/Bx2 (MJQ) - Mott Haven to and from Fordham Rd 

Bx3 (MHV, MJQ) - Washington Heights to and from Kingsbridge Road (a few trips go up to Riverdale)

Bx4 / A (WF) - Usually interlines with the Bx40 / 42 trips

Bx9 (WF, MCH, OH) - West Farms / Riverdale to and from 225th Street & Bway (The trips will often run from either end of the route to 225th and then go back, or will just make the entire trip)

Bx12 / SBS  (MJQ, MHV) - Usually make the whole trip but some trips end at University Avenue or Fordham Plaza 

Bx15 (WF, OH) - 149 st to and from Fordham plaza 

Bx28 (MHV, MCH) - Co-Op City to and from Norwood, with some trips going all the way to Fordham Center (the first day these loans started, an XD60 from OH ran on the line)

Bx41 / SBS (WF, MCH) - 149st to and from Fordham Plaza

Bx40 / 42 (WF) - Whole route

 

The weekend loans are a lot more interesting. One weekend, Staten Island did some trips. Another weekend it was Manhattan, and last weekend it was West Farms (an XN40 ran on the Bx7 and on the Bx28).

So is this why there have been WAY less VII OGs on MHV and MCH routes (it's mainly been NGs)

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9 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

 

So is this why there have been WAY less VII OGs on MHV and MCH routes (it's mainly been NGs)

Not really. MHV only has 38 OG’s compared to 200 NG’s. Quill only have 26 and they have been using mostly NG’s and XD40’s for most of those runs. Hale’s amount are around the same with slightly more NG’s.

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There's less OGs on the streets of Manhattan because a majority of them have not been modified for the rear doors to open like the NGs and the XD40s, and with the reduced schedule, there's not much of a need for them. All of Quill's 6700s are OOS. All of JFK's 6500s/6600s are OOS. A handful of 6600s and 6700s are OOS at MHV, same for hale with their 6700s.

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1 hour ago, Cait Sith said:

There's less OGs on the streets of Manhattan because a majority of them have not been modified for the rear doors to open like the NGs and the XD40s, and with the reduced schedule, there's not much of a need for them. All of Quill's 6700s are OOS. All of JFK's 6500s/6600s are OOS. A handful of 6600s and 6700s are OOS at MHV, same for hale with their 6700s.

Interesting, you can't just the twist the door controls to position 3 on the OGs to hold the rear door open? I guess maybe I'm thinking of the RTS on idle.

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10 minutes ago, MHV9218 said:

Interesting, you can't just the twist the door controls to position 3 on the OGs to hold the rear door open? I guess maybe I'm thinking of the RTS on idle.


I'm not completely sure, but that's what I heard.

When I rode the Q24 during the beginning of rear-door boarding, people had to open the rear doors by themselves and the operator said that he couldn't have it open automatically unless it went on idle.

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50 minutes ago, MHV9218 said:

Interesting, you can't just the twist the door controls to position 3 on the OGs to hold the rear door open? I guess maybe I'm thinking of the RTS on idle.

I rode 6782 last night. It had the doors automatically opening. And iirc all post 2002 buses were able to accomplish the same.

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1 hour ago, Cait Sith said:


I'm not completely sure, but that's what I heard.

When I rode the Q24 during the beginning of rear-door boarding, people had to open the rear doors by themselves and the operator said that he couldn't have it open automatically unless it went on idle.

to my knowledge, what it is with some of the older (OG/NG hybrid) buses (some RTS's/D60HF's suffered from the same affliction when the older they got) is that the PUSH-TAPE OVERRIDE isn't working. the push-tape override is a switch which allows the B/O to automatically control the rear door identical to the front. it may be the electrical wiring that operates the doors has given out... which wouldn't be a surprise to me, to be honest. the OG's & NG's electrical wiring are known to short out (headlights, running/clearance lights, run boxes, taillights) 

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Buses currently OOS since March up to April 15th in Manhattan in no particular order.(OH will be added later, I gotta go to work.)

MHV: 4092, 6716, 6696, 6726, 3867, 6692, 4340, 6710, 4041, 4396, 4263, 4275, 3873, 4401, 4346, 4364, 3961, 4057, 3869, 4084, 4000, 4361, 3874, 4264, 4075, 4010, 4694, 6707, 6699, 4277, 4353, 3971, 4003, 4270, 3950, 3864, 4267, 6705, 6715, 4088, 4273, 3875, 4343, 4095, 3967, 4009, 6702, 4254, 6709, 4019, 6725, 6693, 3861

Hale: 6198, 6151(Vendor, I think that's an accident bus), 6125, 6762, 6782, 6093, 6213, 6199, 6091, 6212, 6208, 3892, 6757, 6783, 6156, 6776, 6772, 6766, 6755, 4276, 6784, 6788, 6768, 6763, 6160.

MQ: 3907(OOS since February, not sure what happened), 4951(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4953, 4954(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4956, 4957(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4958, 4959(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4960(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4962(vendor, assigned at Quill), 12, 6729-6754, 4119, 3823, 5490, 5586, 5592, 3917, 6166, 6188, 5508, 4137, 4125, 5496, 5494, 6108, 3942, 3801, 6100, 5492, 5594, 6099, 5493, 6106, 5523, 5515, 3913, 3818, 3914, 4115, 3800, 3804, 3916, 3915, 3822, 3910, 5495, 5571, 5491, 6098(vendor), 5596, 5507, 5489, 5598.

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2 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

Buses currently OOS since March up to April 15th in Manhattan in no particular order.(OH will be added later, I gotta go to work.)

MHV: 4092, 6716, 6696, 6726, 3867, 6692, 4340, 6710, 4041, 4396, 4263, 4275, 3873, 4401, 4346, 4364, 3961, 4057, 3869, 4084, 4000, 4361, 3874, 4264, 4075, 4010, 4694, 6707, 6699, 4277, 4353, 3971, 4003, 4270, 3950, 3864, 4267, 6705, 6715, 4088, 4273, 3875, 4343, 4095, 3967, 4009, 6702, 4254, 6709, 4019, 6725, 6693, 3861

Hale: 6198, 6151(Vendor, I think that's an accident bus), 6125, 6762, 6782, 6093, 6213, 6199, 6091, 6212, 6208, 3892, 6757, 6783, 6156, 6776, 6772, 6766, 6755, 4276, 6784, 6788, 6768, 6763, 6160.

MQ: 3907(OOS since February, not sure what happened), 4951(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4953, 4954(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4956, 4957(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4958, 4959(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4960(vendor, assigned at Quill), 4962(vendor, assigned at Quill), 12, 6729-6754, 4119, 3823, 5490, 5586, 5592, 3917, 6166, 6188, 5508, 4137, 4125, 5496, 5494, 6108, 3942, 3801, 6100, 5492, 5594, 6099, 5493, 6106, 5523, 5515, 3913, 3818, 3914, 4115, 3800, 3804, 3916, 3915, 3822, 3910, 5495, 5571, 5491, 6098(vendor), 5596, 5507, 5489, 5598.

Take 5507 out the list. Saw that in service earlier today on the M23.  This was roughly around 6:00PM heading towards the pier. 

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2 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

Take 5507 out the list. Saw that in service earlier today on the M23.  This was roughly around 6:00PM heading towards the pier. 

What you saw was 5597. Run 8 on the M23, I saw it earlier too.

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I wonder if the 2014-2015 New Flyer XD40's are falling under the new 6 year repaint cycle, because if that's the case... Ulmer Park's XD40's really gonna need some TLC...

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28 minutes ago, WestFarms36 said:

I wonder if the 2014-2015 New Flyer XD40's are falling under the new 6 year repaint cycle, because if that's the case... Ulmer Park's XD40's really gonna need some TLC...

20200210_153939.jpg

Bring back the RTSs 🤣😂

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8 hours ago, WestFarms36 said:

I wonder if the 2014-2015 New Flyer XD40's are falling under the new 6 year repaint cycle, because if that's the case... Ulmer Park's XD40's really gonna need some TLC...

20200210_153939.jpg

Send it back to East New York. They will bring that bus back to new life. 😂

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10 hours ago, WestFarms36 said:

I wonder if the 2014-2015 New Flyer XD40's are falling under the new 6 year repaint cycle, because if that's the case... Ulmer Park's XD40's really gonna need some TLC...

20200210_153939.jpg

 

7148 already been repainted, so its time. 

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Posted (edited)
On 5/1/2020 at 3:11 PM, Calvin said:

https://thecity.nyc/2020/04/amazon-warehouse-packers-in-staten-island-jam-onto-mta-buses.html?fbclid=IwAR1ILxyBjjDczbGv17QbE-pUtQOc4UVcPdHGJ0pA257IdTTHFSqTZH3sSYI

Headline: Amazon warehouse packers say they’re jammed onto staten island buses

 

Recently, most S40 buses are packed to/from the warehouse terminal

They should be careful what they ask for.... My cousin (who got transferred from LGA9 to JFK8) would tell me about the shuttle VANS that Amazon supplied... Apparently, they ran whenever they wanted to & were often late.... I don't remember where she said they ran from though.... Funny how LGA9 got shuttles, but EWR5 didn't though....

 

edit: my fault... LGA9 is Edison, JFK8 is Staten Island, & EWR5 is the one in Avenel.

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