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On 6/4/2020 at 8:45 PM, Trainmaster5 said:

Just happened to glance at the old (MTA) website after a friend gave me a heads up. The status of the Brooklyn buses is obviously screwed up because of the protests in the borough. My question is exactly “ who’s writing these updates “ ? Vanderbilt Avenue or Vanderbilt Street? Buses terminating at locations that aren’t even on their routes ? Looking at the B35 for example it said no service eastbound between two major streets and the next sentence repeats the same thing although it would appear that the troubled area is westbound if you go by what’s written. Are the status updates for the other boroughs this poorly written? Carry on.

Lex (the member on this forum) pointed out another one in another thread not too long ago, where these rhodes scholars obfuscated Columbus av for Columbus Circle.....

These updates have gotten more & more egregious... It's enough that you have to figure out what course of action you need to take, due to some diversion.... Nevermind the frustration in having to figure out just wtf's even going on in reading the description/details of said diversion, before the fact.... SMFH.

2 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

I asked this very question in a meeting with Cipriano and other senior planners. Room went quiet. LOL I told them the detour info is always a mess and wanted to know who was responsible for them. Lol

Funny how everybody knows everything, except when it comes time to know something.... Then nobody knows anything.

This agency's long gone to the dogs.

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It has been 10 years ago this month since the doomsday cuts. 25 years ago this fall for the 1995 cuts.

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I read in the local papers that there was a protest in Five Towns organized by the residents over there which and given the approval of the Mayor in Cedarhurst. It's been causing NICE to terminate the n31/32 over at Rockaway Turnpike this week but we haven't heard anything about the Q113 or Q114.  It's tricky because Five Towns is more organic and doesn't mind the n31/32 running into Queens since it's used by Lawrence and Cedarhurst residents to get into Mott Avenue.

NICE has been moving the n31/32/33's stand around from Subway Terminal to avoiding the stop at B.21 and Mott. I thought the city knew that those mile long lines by the (A) and on Rockaway Turnpike by the n31 were people getting fed up waiting for the Q22 and Q113/114. Nassau Residents around Hewlett have been baffled by the sudden increase in the 31/32's ridership South of Broadway at Sheridan. They would faint if I told them that Inner Far Rockaway usage and Mott Avenue to Cedarhurst Avenue usage is increasing on the n32 while the n31 is used by health aides heading to work along West Broadway. In short, they're oblivious to the Queens Residents who use the n31/32 as a means to connect to the n1 at Hewlett for Green Acres as to avoid 5 Towns Shopping Center. 

In short, NICE's knows Queens Residents use their buses for reverse peak travel by the law prevents them from fully serving Queens. Old Bus Drivers thought that the fare beaters would get them in trouble with the MTA for breaking the law in exchange for a free fare. Newer Ones know that they're being filmed on security cameras which were installed in response to the assaults on bus operators on the n6 at Hempstead, and n22/24 at Roosvelt Field done by Queens Village Residents heading to the Mall. I tend to omit that Nassau County Residents hate that they are reliant on Queens Residents to work at their Malls in Green Acres and Roosevelt Field or drive out to Broadway Mall in Hicksville using the local roads and avoiding the Parkways.

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Breaking: per news conference with the mayor. 14th street bus way is now permanent. In addition 20 miles of bus lanes to be created. 2 in Queens, 1 Downtown Brooklyn, 1 on 5th Avenue and 1 in Upper Manhattan- Washington Heights. 

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According the Queens Chronicle, there was looting going on around Queens Center Mall-Rego Center with protesters throwing water bottles and rocks at police while running around. The MTA forgets that I cannot see anything on Queens Blvd because Lefrak City is blocking the view of everything. The article mentions Slattery Plaza at Woodhaven and 63rd Drive at Rego Park as the area of where looting takes place.  This sounds like the Queens I know. 

I am assuming that something similar is happening at Kings Plaza Mall around Flatbush. The Valley Stream Residents elected to build a barrier by the Nassau-Queens Border at Green Acres sometime ago in response to the Q5 and Q85 serving Green Acres from the MTA. South Valley Stream tends to be more upfront about not wanting Queens while North Valley Stream welcomes them. It seems neither are cluing in on the shoppers at the Macy's Lot merely waiting for the Q5 to go into service. I haven't seen much commuter vans in the area since Bronx BBQ, Toys-R-Us closed. The Mall recently opened an Aldi's Grocery Store where the old theater used to be. 

There were a similar demonstration at the Queens Boro Hall at Queens Blvd near the Union Turnpike Station on the (E)(F) lines held by the assemblymen and John Liu. It seems that Black Lives Matter are smaller in number but boast their power while the local politicians are well organized. 

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1 hour ago, Future ENY OP said:

1 in Upper Manhattan- Washington Heights. 

Where would that be?

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48 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

Where would that be?

181st St,Main St-Flushing,Jamaica Ave,5th Ave, & 14th St made permanent.

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I wish I can find the numbers under the LIB. The ridership data for Nassau Queens Route goes as follows

n6: 13,500 Riders under LIB, 14,000-18,000 Riders as of 2020. It gained riders when the rush hour trips on the N2 and N3 to Jamaica were cut

n4: 9,000 tied with the n40/41 to Freeport under LIB, 10,000 as of 2016 for the n4 with the n40/41 down to 7000

n20: 7000 Riders *Route Separate to cut down on delays into Queens

n21: 900 before it was cut back to Great Neck Station

n22: Currently at 6700 Riders

n24: Currently at 5'400 Riders

n31/32: This one is tricky because combined it's at 6000 riders. Under LIB, the data showed the n31's ridership lower than the n32. 

n1: Down from 1900 to 1500 and up again to 1770 with peak hour trips.

 

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1 hour ago, Hound said:

181st St,Main St-Flushing,Jamaica Ave,5th Ave, & 14th St made permanent.

Jay Street. Downtown, Brooklyn. 

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My Youtube recommended me a video of one of the Orion VII's with the Clever Devices:

The current screens definitely have more information than this but I think these announcements are better than the current ones.

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40 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

They got ahead of themselves with this tweet

 

M125? Really? Are they doing early implementation of the Bronx bus redesign?

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35 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

M125? Really? Are they doing early implementation of the Bronx bus redesign?

Nah, I think it’s a mistake. Mta constantly f**ks stuff up.

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First day of Phase 1 went well transit-wise for the lines I use. The QM1s were running in the morning finally, as many had been missing/cut during lockdown. With more buses running, each run was relatively empty which was good for social distancing. The HOV lane was open again, which kept the ride quick. Definitely a lot more people in midtown at 8:30Am than the ghost town of past few weeks. M15 was still pretty crowded, but that's been the case for 3 weeks already. Ride back to queens was pretty quick. 

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For service to East Harlem, consider taking an A/B/C/D or 1/2/3 train to 125 St, then take an M60-SBS or M125 bus.

As petty as people on twitter are, nobody pointed out the brand spanking new M125 that doesn't exist yet? :lol:

I'm not sure if it's a further illustration that people don't care to thoroughly read these notices, or that the MTA's blunders are so commonplace that people are numb to them, or a combination of both, or what.....

I mean, I've personally done just fine throughout the course of life when it came time to devising some alternate commute on the fly, upon being notified of some service disruption.... Just tell me what's f***ed up where & I'll figure out how I want to get around, thanks.... I don't need the MTA's commuting suggestions... Sucks for the tourists & out-of-towners, but any NY-er that actually relies on trip planner (for example) on any consistent basis deserves to get trololololed....

....take an M60-SBS or M125 bus.... JFC.

11 hours ago, OrionVIIonM79 said:

Nah, I think it’s a mistake. Mta constantly f**ks stuff up.

In this particular case, it's less of a mistake & more of a freudian slip.

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14 hours ago, JeremiahC99 said:

M125? Really? Are they doing early implementation of the Bronx bus redesign?

Apparently there’s a code break for the M125. There’s a picture floating around via IG. 

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20 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said:

Apparently there’s a code break for the M125. There’s a picture floating around via IG. 

There are codes for all the Bronx redesign changes. It a matter of when they implement it. Earliest I heard was around October.

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Don't know what's going on, but we've had five reports in the last three days of express bus drvers in service not wearing face coverings. Decided against reporting these drivers, but Christ. Incredibly reckless. You're dealing with the public, the majority of whom are wearing face coverings, but you aren't, and going back to your family at night, as we are... Smh...

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1 hour ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

Don't know what's going on, but we've had five reports in the last three days of express bus drvers in service not wearing face coverings. Decided against reporting these drivers, but Christ. Incredibly reckless. You're dealing with the public, the majority of whom are wearing face coverings, but you aren't, and going back to your family at night, as we are... Smh...

I've been paying attention the amount of people out here protesting without masks...... It's been the vast majority without them.... Apparently coronavirus has taken a backseat to all this protesting/rioting & shit... Whether real or perceived, people are more worried about their shit getting broken into (whether that be a local business, their car, their home, etc)..... And then there's these "phases" or w/e you wanna call them, with which things are set to start opening up in this city.... Long story short, there's a misconception that phase1 = we're clear of the coronavirus.... That's what I say's been going on.

It's immaterial to me, because I've been doing more driving & staying as far the f*** away from people as I can anyway.... No, I don't wanna sign any petition... No, I don't wanna buy a BLM t-shirt.... No, I don't wanna "come join us"..... None of that goofy shit... Keep your distance - 6 feet minimum please & thank you.

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1 hour ago, B35 via Church said:

I've been paying attention the amount of people out here protesting without masks...... It's been the vast majority without them.... Apparently coronavirus has taken a backseat to all this protesting/rioting & shit... Whether real or perceived, people are more worried about their shit getting broken into (whether that be a local business, their car, their home, etc)..... And then there's these "phases" or w/e you wanna call them, with which things are set to start opening up in this city.... Long story short, there's a misconception that phase1 = we're clear of the coronavirus.... That's what I say's been going on.

It's immaterial to me, because I've been doing more driving & staying as far the f*** away from people as I can anyway.... No, I don't wanna sign any petition... No, I don't wanna buy a BLM t-shirt.... No, I don't wanna "come join us"..... None of that goofy shit... Keep your distance - 6 feet minimum please & thank you.

Ironically,  some drivers in the advocacy group complained at first that the (MTA) had no masks or gloves for them and we advocated for them to get them. Now they have them and  don't want to wear them

 

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7 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

As petty as people on twitter are, nobody pointed out the brand spanking new M125 that doesn't exist yet? :lol:

I'm not sure if it's a further illustration that people don't care to thoroughly read these notices, or that the MTA's blunders are so commonplace that people are numb to them, or a combination of both, or what.....

I mean, I've personally done just fine throughout the course of life when it came time to devising some alternate commute on the fly, upon being notified of some service disruption.... Just tell me what's f***ed up where & I'll figure out how I want to get around, thanks.... I don't need the MTA's commuting suggestions... Sucks for the tourists & out-of-towners, but any NY-er that actually relies on trip planner (for example) on any consistent basis deserves to get trololololed....

....take an M60-SBS or M125 bus.... JFC.

In this particular case, it's less of a mistake & more of a freudian slip.

Something I was taught as a child. There's always another route home if your primary is blocked. Motor Instructor told my school car class of conductors " people are getting dumber by the day. Next thing you know the C/R will have to take you to your front door" 😀

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19 hours ago, QM1to6Ave said:

First day of Phase 1 went well transit-wise for the lines I use. The QM1s were running in the morning finally, as many had been missing/cut during lockdown. With more buses running, each run was relatively empty which was good for social distancing. The HOV lane was open again, which kept the ride quick. Definitely a lot more people in midtown at 8:30Am than the ghost town of past few weeks. M15 was still pretty crowded, but that's been the case for 3 weeks already. Ride back to queens was pretty quick. 

Happy to hear that. We have returned to tracking lines again and will resume logging in the coming weeks.

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Been noticing a lot more bus-stop blocking since this corona-thingy.... Yes its always been an issue, but its gotten much worse from March onward.

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12 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

Apparently there’s a code break for the M125. There’s a picture floating around via IG. 

They could code break some M60s/Bx15s to cover up their mistakes 🤣

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