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1 hour ago, B61In2002 said:

wait, so MetroCards should be gone by 2022 right? I remember something like that being said.

 

side note, are there plans to create more Brooklyn - Manhattan overnight service/make the B99 permanent?

2023 would be when the Metrocard would retire. The extra time is to give people enough time to switch over.

No clue about the overnight service, but since the governor said that the intention is to bring back 24/7 service once they don’t need to fully clean the subway cars each day, I would imagine any new routes like the B99 that cover subway lines would but cut once that happens. If it keeps the subways clean, I would like the MTA to use overnight buses like the B99 to replace the subways. They wouldn’t mirror the subways entirely, and some subway lines may have several overnight lines covering portions, but I would have them be $2.75 instead of free like the subway shuttles, but with an additional free transfer to another subway shuttle overnight bus. But I cannot imagine that happening.

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Saw 7306 (I think) heading uptown on 8th with a few B/Os. Is FB staging some buses at Quill earlier in the day before the B99s start each night, or was that just a one-off?

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2 hours ago, MHV9218 said:

Saw 7306 (I think) heading uptown on 8th with a few B/Os. Is FB staging some buses at Quill earlier in the day before the B99s start each night, or was that just a one-off?

I didn't even think they were staging them. The ones I saw were straight deadheads from Flatbush since the first night.

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6 hours ago, B61In2002 said:

side note, are there plans to create more Brooklyn - Manhattan overnight service/make the B99 permanent?

I think there could be some interesting additions to go along with the B99 (including in other boroughs), especially in Inwood/Kingsbridge.

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Took the opportunity to ride the whole B99 this time (and yes, they finally have the actual destination signage for the "B99").....

  • Manhattan bound buses read: "Columbus Circle || via 8th av" (separate frames)
  • Brooklyn bound buses read: "Midwood(1st frame)|| "Nostrand av (top line, 2nd frame) Avenue H (bottom line, 2nd frame)"

Anyway, I took the first trip of the night → #7644, from 1:12am to 2:00am on the dot.... At the Junction, there were 9 people waiting for a bus on that side of the street (myself included).... The B11 pulled up first, nobody got on.... about 5 mins later, a B41 pulled up - 6 out of the 9 people boarded (it appeared as if some of those people would've taken the B99 if the bus powered on/pulled up before the fact, but *shrugs*).... about 3 mins. after the B41 left, our b/o pulled up, and the rest of us 3 boarded the B99....

We rode nonstop until we hit Dekalb, when some dude in a white button down shirt motioned for the b/o to open the front door.... He counted the number of people on the bus (which was still the 3 of us that got on at the Junction) & we eventually left).... Both dudes got off at Canal/Broadway... At Wooster st (which isn't a stop), the b/o was nice enough to pick up some chick that was running for the bus.... Right before the bus turns onto 6th av (at that point, I was the only other passenger), said chick walks over to me & asked if this was the bus going to Brooklyn.... Told her, verbatim "Other direction" (while shaking my head no & pointing in the opposite direction)... She rings the bell & gets off at the next stop, 6th/Thompson.....

After that, one person boarded at Waverly & two other people boarded at W. 40th.... All 4 of us got off at the last stop.

All in all, pretty smooth ride from end to end...

7 hours ago, Cait Sith said:

I didn't even think they were staging them. The ones I saw were straight deadheads from Flatbush since the first night.

Bus I took was a DH.

When I got off the NB Q35 & as I was walking over to Flatbush/Nostrand, there was a bus right on the corner (in front of the B41/B99 bus stop pole)... I thought that was going to be our guy - but out of the blue, a bus (the bus I eventually got on, #7644) comes flying down Flatbush av. out of nowhere with the B99 Columbus Circle signage displayed.... Briefly parked at the B11 pickup stop & powered the bus off for a bit.... That was around 1am, so he took a break or whatever, until it was time to begin the trip....

As for that other bus on the corner, I couldn't tell you what route that was.... It was still powered off by time we pulled out....

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21 hours ago, Snorunts said:

I heard recently in one of MTA’s updates that OMNY should be installed on all buses by the end of the year.

How do they plan to prevent fare evasion by just entering through rear doors without paying with OMNY?

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1 hour ago, Hound said:

How do they plan to prevent fare evasion by just entering through rear doors without paying with OMNY?

Maybe by hiring more people for the Eagle Team to check people's cards and see who tapped on.

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3 hours ago, checkmatechamp13 said:

Maybe by hiring more people for the Eagle Team to check people's cards and see who tapped on.

How will that work? Will they have readers that can scan credit cards, phones, watches, and OMNY cards to verify the payment? 

What would it show them on their screens? 

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6 minutes ago, XcelsiorBoii4888 said:

How will that work? Will they have readers that can scan credit cards, phones, watches, and OMNY cards to verify the payment? 

What would it show them on their screens? 

It'll probably be similar to what LIRR/MNRR has now with the ticket scanners.

In Seattle, they use similar technology with the Orca Cards, the screens tend to show confirmation of payment and when you paid. It also shows if the card is invalid, has no money, ect.

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On 6/26/2020 at 5:45 AM, Flatbush SBS Duece said:

New Over Night route out of Flatbush Depot starting Sunday June 28, 2020.

B99 will start from Nostrand Have/Flatbush ”Junction” to Manhattan W 58th Street. ThIs route is mainly due to the train service being out of service during the COvID CLEANING over night especially the number 2 train. The bus will run like a local B44 route and turn off to Eastern pkwy heading towards Flatbush ave and straight to Manhattan Bridge.

Right now operators out of Flatbush are currently doing line training. Management are considering this route to remain until further notice for a possibility for operators to pick as a new work in the future.

Oohh. That'll help the normal B44 out a lot at least.

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22 hours ago, Bay Ridge Express said:

I think there could be some interesting additions to go along with the B99 (including in other boroughs), especially in Inwood/Kingsbridge.

Running the BxM2 via Inwood overnight would be a viable option to get to/from the west side.

Inwood having its two west side subway lines ( (1)(A) ) out of service with only an east side express bus replacing it (BxM1) isn't exactly convenient imo...

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5 minutes ago, paulrivera said:

Running the BxM2 via Inwood overnight would be a viable option to get to/from the west side.

Inwood having its two west side subway lines ( (1)(A) ) out of service with only an east side express bus replacing it (BxM1) isn't exactly convenient imo...

That's not even an option anymore. Gotta take the Bx12 into The Bronx for the Bx15 and then transfer again in Harlem if you have to take transit. 

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7 minutes ago, paulrivera said:

Running the BxM2 via Inwood overnight would be a viable option to get to/from the west side.

Inwood having its two west side subway lines ( (1)(A) ) out of service with only an east side express bus replacing it (BxM1) isn't exactly convenient imo...

Um. No BxM1 and BxM2 service overnight. Scrapped. 

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1 minute ago, Future ENY OP said:

Um. No BxM1 and BxM2 service overnight. Scrapped. 

How'd that happen? I woulda expected the BxM4 to get scrapped first...

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On 6/29/2020 at 1:56 AM, MHV184 said:

Yea those run numbers have been weird today cause usually I see mostly Manhattanvilles buses with 200s, 100s or even double or single digit run numbers. However while I was out today I saw that most routes had 500s, 400s or 300s. Does that mean they added more runs to those routes?

The run numbering system was changed for the summer pick. It's more or less the same amount of runs. 

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There is a 2017 odd numbered XD60 in Staten Island on Richmond Terrace...what could that possibly be for? 
 

Testing artics in for the North Shore BRT? 

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13 hours ago, paulrivera said:

How'd that happen? I woulda expected the BxM4 to get scrapped first...

The BxM4 replaces 2 subway lines with one bus route. The BxM1/2 basically replace one subway line with 2 bus routes. You do the math. (Daytime ridership being higher doesn't equal overnight ridership being higher, all things considered)

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Schools will be reopening in September. Ridership may be increasing from time to time, on the phase 4 planning. 

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Phase 4? How many phases are we gonna have... Looking at this list for phase 4, it still doesn't have places like malls & movie theaters being operable (which, at minimum, opens the door for a phase 5)...

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4 minutes ago, B35 via Church said:

Phase 4? How many phases are we gonna have... Looking at this list for phase 4, it still doesn't have places like malls & movie theaters being operable (which, at minimum, opens the door for a phase 5)...

Malls, movie theaters, and gyms were originally included in phase 4, but were yanked from the phase 4 list last week due to being unusually riskier from a health standpoint. These will open at another date.

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6 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

Malls, movie theaters, and gyms were originally included in phase 4, but were yanked from the phase 4 list last week due to being unusually riskier from a health standpoint. These will open at another date.

...which speaks to my larger point... They're going to drag this out for as long as they want to.

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20 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

Malls, movie theaters, and gyms were originally included in phase 4, but were yanked from the phase 4 list last week due to being unusually riskier from a health standpoint. These will open at another date.

Meanwhile NJ, CT and PA malls and movie theatres are open 

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