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So the front of buses is opening back up next week? I can't wait to see people lined up at the back door and the driver opening the front. I can't wait to see pple walking in through the front and right past the fare box. It's gonna be another transitional shit show just watch. F5 is gonna get wedged in on almost every bus from the constant pressing. 

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NYPD doesn't even bother to enforce the fare anymore, on multiple occasions I've seen ppl fare beat on the subway right in front of the cops. 

 

So its gonna be "Interesting" to see how farebeaters will react to the eagle team, especially in this current climate.

 

Since the Eagle Team is back I guess I'll be cutting back on my SBS usage until OMNY is implemented city wide. Only using the SBS on occasion with my "burner" metrocards I get from hospital visits.

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I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

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ehh, I'll hold off on the third one....

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1 hour ago, B35 via Church said:

I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

1. Longest unlinked trip: I guess B63 from Brooklyn Bridge park to Bay Ridge? Had to take my grandma and accessibility on the (R) was (and still is) shite.

2. Ride share, subway, air train and bus. And yes, that was just legitimately to get to a relative's house.

Anything other than that, I would say is obvious fanning.

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1 hour ago, B35 via Church said:

I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

1] I've taken the B6 from end-to-end. Was riding with an operator friend of mine.

2] Getting home from when I used to work overnights in Nassau... Take the N72 to the N6 then the Q17. Apparently that was a three-leg transfer at the time. Imagine my surprise when I got a second transfer hopping on the Q17.

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1 hour ago, B35 via Church said:

I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

1. I believe it was on the BM5 or the QM15 (can't remember which), something like 2 hours to go from Woodhaven Blvd & 63rd Drive to the 50s in Midtown. Only one tube of the Queens Midtown Tunnel was open, and well there was a bunch of traffic leading up to the tube (I was unaware of it and there was no advisory about it). It was either that, or a BM1 trip where it took almost an hour to leave Manhattan (I rode it the full route). 

2. Most amount of modes was four. It was the Q47 to the (R) to the (4) to the Bx40/42. 

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1 hour ago, B35 via Church said:

I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

1. By time (and likely distance): The Q35 when I rode it from Brooklyn College to 116th in Rockaway, the ride typically took me around 30-50 minutes to complete. Though last year on one instance, it took over 2 hours. Traffic near the Aviators had the bus completely stalled for nearly an hour, and the rest of the trip was sluggish to go along with that.

2. Most amount is six. It was the (2) to Franklin (S) to (C) to (A) (which ended at Broad Channel due to issues at South Channel) to Q53+ to Q22 

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2 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

1) easily, the M101 end to end... circumstance being, i got off my run at East NY Depot (at the time), caught a ride to the city, met my ex-wife on her run on the M101, then rode the bus with her on her last trip so we could drive home to PA together. trip was easily 2½ hours from Cooper Union to Fort George... Limited, during rush hour (approx. 6pm) no adjustments and still had to do a southbound pull-in trip to 96 street.

2) most modes of transportation = 3. 

B103, Q35 & Q22. circumstance being, i was supposed to link up with a girl for the first time, and my car's transmission quit on me, but i wasn't of a mood to ride the B46 or the B47 to the (A) to go to Far Rock, so i took the scenic route... all in the name of not coming across as too thirsty, rushing over to her place, even without a vehicle. 

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3 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

1. When I was little I remember taking the Q44 all the way from Main Street and Jewel Ave to the Bronx Zoo with my mom. 

In recent times I would say the Q25 from 127th street & 14th Ave to Kissena Blvd and Jewel Ave

2.  There was this one time where I needed to travel to Staten Island from Northeastern Queens. I took the Q64 to the (R) to the Staten Island Ferry to the S46 to go to an indoor paintball place out near West Shore Plaza. That ride was about 2 hours to complete and I never had to take a train, a bus and a boat just to complete a trip.

 

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Offhand back in November 2018 there was a snowstorm and I took the (7) to PABT as normal but between waiting for the bus and all the traffic we encountered it took a total of 4.25 hours to get from LIC to Staten Island.

Another time when I was in college I caught an S62 to the ferry around 8:30am and didn't make it to the ferry until 10:49am (and that was after I got off at Eddy Street and just walked the rest of the way). My total commute to CCNY had me getting there around 12:15pm, so that was 3.75 hours of commuting.

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17 hours ago, trainfan22 said:

NYPD doesn't even bother to enforce the fare anymore, on multiple occasions I've seen ppl fare beat on the subway right in front of the cops. 

 

Cops don't care because (1) they all live in the suburbs and (2) they ride for free. 

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16 minutes ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

 

Cops don't care because (1) they all live in the suburbs and (2) they ride for free. 

Most live in the city, actually

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Forgot to specify on the first question that I meant in terms of duration (not necessarily route length), but I guess it still applies.

In any case, while the first question stemmed from me looking at old trip logs, the 2nd one (cleaned up/paraphrased) was asked in an interview... Another question that was asked of me, involved the nuances of my primary door to door commute for my last position & the itinerary for (at least) 3 separate alternate commutes....

My answers for those questions are as follows:

1. I remember the ride/trip, but the longer I'm looking at the log here almost 9 years later, I still can't believe I was on it for this long.... It was on an x22 (PM direction; meaning towards SI) I rode from end to end... Boarded 5:14, Disembarked 8:02... The math on that is 2 hours & 48 minutes. It took about an hour just to get out of Manhattan & for whatever the reason, we were bumper-to-bumper for the entire stint along the WSE...

...for shits & giggles, second on this list I definitely remember & I thought it was longer (time-wise) than the aforementioned x22 trip..... It was on an M5 (also the full route) back in 2012, back when it (stupidly) ran from GWB to S. Ferry.... Boarded 5:37 (pm), Disembarked 8:16... Math on that one is 2 hours & 39 minutes.... Unlike the x22 trip, I didn't plan on riding the full M5 route to S. Ferry; I contemplated getting off twice (at Columbus Circle & at 14th), but rode the whole thing out, basically due to laziness.... LOL.

 

2. My answer to this question was the commute I had, back when I had an assignment in Unionport....
(B46 → (4)(6) → Bx22).... So, 4 modes)

Sometimes I would do the B46 → (4)(7) → Q44, but I didn't particularly care for the walk from either the [Brush/Bruckner stop] or from the [Cross Bronx service rd./Zerega stop]....

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Wow, I'll admit that I didn't expect so many people to answer this quickly.... Thanks for the answers though....

We could stand to use more relatable/pragmatic discussions on here, instead of the theoretical, fanatical, and/or doom-and-gloom stuff....

That said:

 

15 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

1. I believe it was on the BM5 or the QM15 (can't remember which), something like 2 hours to go from Woodhaven Blvd & 63rd Drive to the 50s in Midtown. Only one tube of the Queens Midtown Tunnel was open, and well there was a bunch of traffic leading up to the tube (I was unaware of it and there was no advisory about it). It was either that, or a BM1 trip where it took almost an hour to leave Manhattan (I rode it the full route).

I've been on quite a few BM trips that took an hour + just to get out of Manhattan that didn't involve riding down from 57th... I'll admit though that more often than not, I was actually thankful for it - gave me time to doze off after a days work :D..... One time though, I overdid it - it was on a BM3 & I had to commute back from f***ing Ocean/Av. U.... But yeah, when I used to work in Manhattan, the AM commutes on the BM's were always easier (or, less problematic) than the PM commutes....

After work, I would sometimes hit up my favorite pizza joint (NY pizza suprema, over there across from the main post office; 31st st side)... After eating, I would walk over to the 30th/5th stop for the BM's (I'd prefer if the BM1 or 2 came [as it set me up for the B46], but I'd take anything that came first)..... Was usually around the 7pm hour or so.... Didn't feel like putting up with the subway after the fact....

14 hours ago, NoHacksJustKhaks said:

2. Most amount is six. It was the (2) to Franklin (S) to (C) to (A) (which ended at Broad Channel due to issues at South Channel) to Q53+ to Q22 

Anything over 4 modes within the city, I can see a] being due to a g/o or something & b] involving more trains than buses.... Outside of fanning purposes, I don't think I've ever had a commute that had me taking more than 4... You being in the Rockaways I can understand, being that options aren't nearly as plentiful as someone living in the middle of Brooklyn here....

13 hours ago, EastFlatbushLarry said:

1) easily, the M101 end to end... circumstance being, i got off my run at East NY Depot (at the time), caught a ride to the city, met my ex-wife on her run on the M101, then rode the bus with her on her last trip so we could drive home to PA together. trip was easily 2½ hours from Cooper Union to Fort George... Limited, during rush hour (approx. 6pm) no adjustments and still had to do a southbound pull-in trip to 96 street.

2) most modes of transportation = 3. 

B103, Q35 & Q22. circumstance being, i was supposed to link up with a girl for the first time, and my car's transmission quit on me, but i wasn't of a mood to ride the B46 or the B47 to the (A) to go to Far Rock, so i took the scenic route... all in the name of not coming across as too thirsty, rushing over to her place, even without a vehicle. 

Well it's a good thing that I omitted the stipulation that b/o's are exempt from answering (since your profession has you on a bus all day :lol:)... Seriously though, at least you framed your answers from a commuter's perspective.... Nobody ever knows who "they" is, but they say that you're not supposed to dip your pen in company ink... While I didn't marry the MF-er (she kept pushing it though), I did hook up with my second ex. on the job.... Money hungry b%@^.... But yeah, don't get me started with the M101 (which reminds me, I gotta respond to BM5's post in the Manhattan thread)....Damn thing shouldn't be a thing AFAIC..... Although I've taken the M101 from end to end, I refrained from doing that during the meat of the day.... At least with the M5, Riverside drive offered *some* relief..... But w/ the M101, you gotta put up with damn Amsterdam, 125th and Lex (or 3rd, if it's a NB trip)... Suicide... That type of routing should be reserved for overnights only; akin to these B99's/M99's/Bx99's.....

As a Brooklynite, nobody's going to sway me into taking the (A) to get to the Rockaways over a bus.... Smart man IMO... If I ever need to get to the Rockaways for any reason (if I'm not driving, of course), it's the Q35 or the Q53 for most occasions.... Hell with the (A) & for damn sure, to hell w/ the LIRR... I don't even care that it's situated by the quote-unquote notorious Redfern houses, it's more that it's in the middle of nothing in-particular....

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1 hour ago, josephnyy42 said:

Most live in the city, actually

I’m going to disagree with what you just said. Most police live outside the 5 Boroughs. Yes, some do live in the city.  However, most are in Long Island, Westchester, Rockland, and some in Capital Region via 684 & Taconic Parkway. 

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18 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

That first part brought back memories for me. November 9, 1965, the night of the first NYC blackout. Was working at Alexander's department store at 58th and Lex. Lights flickered and the backup generator kicked in. Store was closed and everyone was sent home. My department head told the owner about my issue. Everyone else lived in the Bronx or uptown in Manhattan. I was the only Brooklynite on duty at that time. The owner of Alexander's walked me outside and flagged down a s/b bus. I don't remember the route # but the B/O told me to sit behind him and he took me down to Brooklyn Bridge and told me to be careful. I walked across the bridge with a few other adults and made it over to the B41 stop across from the main Brooklyn Post Office. I waited with 3 other people and the bus showed up. I rode that bus down to Rutland Road, got off and almost ran the block and a half to my house. It wasn't the distance that sticks in my mind about that night. It was the time spent onboard those 2 buses. To this day I'm in awe of those professional B/Os who got me home without a street light or traffic signal. Mind you, I've been in a blackout underground as a M/M but there's just no comparison. Just my recollection. Carry on.

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4 hours ago, Trainmaster5 said:

That first part brought back memories for me. November 9, 1965, the night of the first NYC blackout. Was working at Alexander's department store at 58th and Lex. Lights flickered and the backup generator kicked in. Store was closed and everyone was sent home. My department head told the owner about my issue. Everyone else lived in the Bronx or uptown in Manhattan. I was the only Brooklynite on duty at that time. The owner of Alexander's walked me outside and flagged down a s/b bus. I don't remember the route # but the B/O told me to sit behind him and he took me down to Brooklyn Bridge and told me to be careful. I walked across the bridge with a few other adults and made it over to the B41 stop across from the main Brooklyn Post Office. I waited with 3 other people and the bus showed up. I rode that bus down to Rutland Road, got off and almost ran the block and a half to my house. It wasn't the distance that sticks in my mind about that night. It was the time spent onboard those 2 buses. To this day I'm in awe of those professional B/Os who got me home without a street light or traffic signal. Mind you, I've been in a blackout underground as a M/M but there's just no comparison. Just my recollection. Carry on.

That's a wonderful story. How often has Surface run buses during blackouts, specifically night hours? I'm trying to rack my brain. I think they've generally canceled service after sunset. The only example I can think of in recent memory is Hurricane Sandy, when for the first couple nights of the blackout Manhattan buses ran as normal. I remember taking an M3 and crossing into the no-man's land darkness below Midtown, very eerie stuff. B/O was very professional working through that. After a few nights of that, the union put its foot down and service was curtailed, but at the every beginning you had everything running (and everything for free, too – Quill's then-new LFSAs were running with their blue SBS lights for all-door boarding). 

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On 8/6/2020 at 9:42 PM, B35 via Church said:

I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

1. The longest unlinked trip for me was the Q44 Limited...

2. Related to the first, all on buses, trying to get home from White Plains (also on a bus). After getting off the Bee Line 3, I then used the Bx9 to the Q44 to the Q56. This was during the 2003 blackout...and I eventually got a ride from the Q56 home to a residence with lights and air conditioning.

It's during the blackouts that one really realizes how crucial the surface transit network is.


BTW, fun fact...Alexander's still owns the site of its flagship store and is a pretty expensive stock these days per share, but has not rung up a retail sale since 1992 (after closing the stores, Alexander's was able to emerge from bankruptcy).

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2 hours ago, aemoreira81 said:

1. The longest unlinked trip for me was the Q44 Limited...

2. Related to the first, all on buses, trying to get home from White Plains (also on a bus). After getting off the Bee Line 3, I then used the Bx9 to the Q44 to the Q56. This was during the 2003 blackout...and I eventually got a ride from the Q56 home to a residence with lights and air conditioning.

It's during the blackouts that one really realizes how crucial the surface transit network is.


BTW, fun fact...Alexander's still owns the site of its flagship store and is a pretty expensive stock these days per share, but has not rung up a retail sale since 1992 (after closing the stores, Alexander's was able to emerge from bankruptcy).

Alexander’s became Vornado Realty after the stores were shuttered. The chain actually owned the land the stores were built on. 

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On 8/6/2020 at 9:42 PM, B35 via Church said:

I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

1. The Q113 during the PBL days in 2004 from Parsons Blvd (F) to Seagirt and Beach 20. I wanted to go to the beach that day. I was off from school. 

2. I can't really answer this since most of my trips were outside the city. (Nassau and Westchester)

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3 minutes ago, Q43LTD said:

2. I can't really answer this since most of my trips were outside the city. (Nassau and Westchester)

Damn, seriously?

So most the times you used buses or trains when you lived in NYC, it was to head out to Nassau or Westchester? Interesting......

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1 hour ago, B35 via Church said:

Damn, seriously?

So most the times you used buses or trains when you lived in NYC, it was to head out to Nassau or Westchester? Interesting......

I did use buses and subways to get to work and school in the city. So when I worked in Hunts Point. I used the Q111/113 to the (F) then the (D) to the Bx6. Now that I think of it, my longest trip using one bus may be tied with taking the Q60 from South Jamaica P to Queens Center. Unfortunately, I did not live near the subway. I remember my first fan trip in 2004 to the Staten Island Mall.

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On 8/6/2020 at 9:42 PM, B35 via Church said:

I have two 2-part questions for y'all here:

1] What was the longest unlinked trip you've ever endured on any MTA bus route? (express or local, doesn't matter)

  • If you can remember, what bus route was it & what were the circumstances behind it?

2] What's the most amount of modes (you can include rail transit) you've ever used to complete one linked trip within the city for a commute? (Do not include joyrides/fantrips)

  • ...of those unlinked trips, how many of them included buses?

 

I have a few..

I've taken the S78 end to end, wasn't fun, the Q44 (before and after SBS) end to end, the Bx15 on a weekend (Orion VII) to Lexington, the M101, and if you add express buses, the SIM26, and QM5/QM6.

2: Bx1-Bx15-M60-Q70-7-E-Q10-B15-B35-B63-S79-SIM1-M2-1. Let's just say... I left pretty early and I got home pretty late. 

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1 hour ago, NBTA said:

2: Bx1-Bx15-M60-Q70-7-E-Q10-B15-B35-B63-S79-SIM1-M2-1. Let's just say... I left pretty early and I got home pretty late. 

Nice fantrip, but I was asking about an actual commute with that question.....

14 hours ago, Q43LTD said:

I did use buses and subways to get to work and school in the city. So when I worked in Hunts Point. I used the Q111/113 to the (F) then the (D) to the Bx6. Now that I think of it, my longest trip using one bus may be tied with taking the Q60 from South Jamaica P to Queens Center. Unfortunately, I did not live near the subway. I remember my first fan trip in 2004 to the Staten Island Mall.

Do you remember how long it was (time-wise), approximately?

During rush hour traffic, I'd put that at about a 40-45 min. ride....

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