Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15826 Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) The MTA will do any this they can to make a few extra dollars even at the discomfort of city residents think of the ppl who live outside of NYC when they hear of "City Ticket" they must have though it was unfair The City Ticket was only created to fill up the trains more on weekends and generate revenue, but the would much rather target areas where the fares are already high or affluent areas. For example, they continue to market heavily to Riverdale, but are extremely stingy to neighborhoods in the Bronx such as Melrose, which is a poor area and has piss poor service. One train every two hours in some cases. Meanwhile Riverdale has train service every 30 minutes during off-peak most of the time. Neither neighborhood has a subway in the neighborhood so it clearly comes down to economics. Edited August 24, 2015 by Via Garibaldi 8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Flushing Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15827 Posted August 24, 2015 If metro north or Lirr has stops within nyc I think nyc residents should be able to pay the subway price of $2.75 or use there unlimited, in queens Lirr wants $8.50 for off peak. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15828 Posted August 24, 2015 Maybe not subway price but express price would be nice and make more sense If metro north or Lirr has stops within nyc I think nyc residents should be able to pay the subway price of $2.75 or use there unlimited, in queens Lirr wants $8.50 for off peak. That pretty much prove my point cause the MTA will try to do anything to make extra money since the city ticket is cheaper residents which choose a city ticket and I'm pretty sure the railroads aren't funded by the city but the state and another thing I notice is the railroads segregate New Yorkers from people who live outside the city over there it their only option is some cases and the price is worth the distance they travel but her in the city I should not be paying 10.50 to go from woodside to flushing which is 1 stop. Idk about the MNR but I do know that the LIRR prices are way higher than they should be in queens and Brooklyn and most people because of that just use the subway and bus The City Ticket was only created to fill up the trains more on weekends and generate revenue, but the would much rather target areas where the fares are already high or affluent areas. For example, they continue to market heavily to Riverdale, but are extremely stingy to neighborhoods in the Bronx such as Melrose, which is a poor area and has piss poor service. One train every two hours in some cases. Meanwhile Riverdale has train service every 30 minutes during off-peak most of the time. Neither neighborhood has a subway in the neighborhood so it clearly comes down to economics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15829 Posted August 24, 2015 Correct. I don't even understand why the BxM3 goes to Yonkers. It should end at Riverdale border, just like the BxM1, BxM2 and BxM18 do. That bus been going there since long before the takeover, for decades now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15830 Posted August 24, 2015 That bus been going there since long before the takeover, for decades now. Probably due to it being a private bus line out of Yonkers and the depot being close by. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15831 Posted August 24, 2015 If metro north or Lirr has stops within nyc I think nyc residents should be able to pay the subway price of $2.75 or use there unlimited, in queens Lirr wants $8.50 for off peak. Don't be ridiculous. It's a commuter railroad not a subway. Maybe not subway price but express price would be nice and make more sense That pretty much prove my point cause the MTA will try to do anything to make extra money since the city ticket is cheaper residents which choose a city ticket and I'm pretty sure the railroads aren't funded by the city but the state and another thing I notice is the railroads segregate New Yorkers from people who live outside the city over there it their only option is some cases and the price is worth the distance they travel but her in the city I should not be paying 10.50 to go from woodside to flushing which is 1 stop. Idk about the MNR but I do know that the LIRR prices are way higher than they should be in queens and Brooklyn and most people because of that just use the subway and bus Metro-North and the LIRR are COMMUTER RAILROADS, NOT SUBWAYS, with more amenities and quicker commutes so the fare should be higher. I gladly pay $8.75 for a peak ticket from Riverdale to Grand Central + 2.75 for the Hudson Rail Link shuttle bus. The cliente are classier overall, trains are relatively clean and it's civilized. No homeless people either... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Flushing Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15832 Posted August 24, 2015 I hear people get on the N20 on the nice bus system & tell the driver they have no money & the passenger takes a seat so basically a free ride? My question is does that I don't have any money can I get a ride happen on metro north or the Lirr? Does the conductor say sure take a seat like the bus driver does 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15833 Posted August 24, 2015 I hear people get on the N20 on the nice bus system & tell the driver they have no money & the passenger takes a seat so basically a free ride? My question is does that I don't have any money can I get a ride happen on metro north or the Lirr? Does the conductor say sure take a seat like the bus driver does lol... No they either give you the option of getting off at the next stop so as not to embarass you, or they call the police and let them escort you off at a stop further down the line. I saw a young teenage type on Metro-North with no ticket when I got on in Riverdale. When the conductor saw him and he had no ticket she kicked him off at University Heights and I'm sure she warned him that she would call the police next time because he got off but the smile that he had on his face was gone... lol The needs it money and they are especially not tolerant of fare beating on the express bus, LIRR or Metro-North, nor are the passengers. I don't want those people riding, and I see it, I report it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15834 Posted August 24, 2015 For the case of fare beating I always have my ticket but the amount of times they forget to collect a ticket from me is absurd the only time they even collect a ticket form me is is a get on at a terminal stop all the other times they go right past me before I have a chance to give them my ticket 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15835 Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) lol... No they either give you the option of getting off at the next stop so as not to embarass you, or they call the police and let them escort you off at a stop further down the line. I saw a young teenage type on Metro-North with no ticket when I got on in Riverdale. When the conductor saw him and he had no ticket she kicked him off at University Heights and I'm sure she warned him that she would call the police next time because he got off but the smile that he had on his face was gone... lol The needs it money and they are especially not tolerant of fare beating on the express bus, LIRR or Metro-North, nor are the passengers. I don't want those people riding, and I see it, I report it.That reminds me, some weeks ago, I executed your commuting style. Since I had a long trip home from Riverdale, I took the BxM2 the entire trip which the B/O went all the way down 2nd Avenue and turned on 34th and the I took the LIRR to Jamaica and took the home. Edited August 24, 2015 by S78 via Hylan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15836 Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) I would have transferred To another express bus to save money but whatever pleases you is fine Edited August 24, 2015 by IAlam 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15837 Posted August 24, 2015 That reminds me, some weeks ago, I executed your commuting style. Since I had a long trip home from Riverdale, I took the BxM2 the entire trip which the B/O went all the way down 2nd Avenue and turned on 34th and the I took the LIRR to Jamaica and took the home. That's interesting... I've never went that route before... Must've been just you on the BxM2... We've done 5th all the way down to 34th but never 2nd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15838 Posted August 24, 2015 Wait I know this is a bit random but speaking about express buses why aren't the MTA buying MCI's anymore? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15839 Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) I would have transferred To another express bus to save money but whatever pleases you is fine Agreed... Whenever I tutor I HATE spending money on Metro-North... Eats into my profits. If I make $40 - 50 in cash for a session, I don't want to spend money on a friggin' City Ticket. Now if I have a Metro-North pass I could care less, but I prefer using my express bus pass. My rates are going up this year and I still don't want that money going back into Metro-North expenses. lol Wait I know this is a bit random but speaking about express buses why aren't the MTA buying MCI's anymore? Who said that? They still buy MCI's it's just that Prevost won the latest big order. Edited August 24, 2015 by Via Garibaldi 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15840 Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) I hear people get on the N20 on the nice bus system & tell the driver they have no money & the passenger takes a seat so basically a free ride? My question is does that I don't have any money can I get a ride happen on metro north or the Lirr? Does the conductor say sure take a seat like the bus driver does Only times you can get a free ride on MTA commuter railroads is if you ride a inbound train in the Morning on St Patrick Day as they so crowded to the point that C/R's can't walk though the train to collect tickets.... Or if the Subway is FUBAR'd or a major weekend G.O where they cross honor on the LIRR, when they cross honor they even bother checking tickets in the affected portion of the route.... Edited August 24, 2015 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15841 Posted August 24, 2015 3599 is on the Q66 for reasons unclear to me. Just saw it in Flushing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAlam Posted August 24, 2015 Share #15842 Posted August 24, 2015 also 2 xd 40s on the Q32 and 1 xd 40 on the Q31 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted August 25, 2015 Share #15843 Posted August 25, 2015 3599 is on the Q66 for reasons unclear to me. Just saw it in Flushing. So this LGA loaning thing is still going on. I should go check if the Q38 has any....but I'm too damn far from it right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted August 25, 2015 Share #15844 Posted August 25, 2015 So this LGA loaning thing is still going on. I should go check if the Q38 has any....but I'm too damn far from it right now. LGA loaned 3579 (Q66), 3598 (Q66), 3599 (Q66), 3604 (Q25/Q34), 4502 (Q66), and 4511 (Q53) today. If an RTS ever heads over, I'm finished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted August 25, 2015 Share #15845 Posted August 25, 2015 Wow, what's up with CP? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted August 25, 2015 Share #15846 Posted August 25, 2015 What? LG is loaning buses? (I know it isn't the first time it happened). I was saying this to be funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priincenene Posted August 25, 2015 Share #15847 Posted August 25, 2015 Has LGA ever borrowed buses from Casey Stengel or Jamaica? I know some buses went from LGA to Jamaica because I saw the LaGuardia depot sticker underneath the Jamaica one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysteriousBtrain Posted August 25, 2015 Share #15848 Posted August 25, 2015 Has LGA ever borrowed buses from Casey Stengel or Jamaica? I know some buses went from LGA to Jamaica because I saw the LaGuardia depot sticker underneath the Jamaica oneMTA bus routes can't borrow from NYCT bus depots (like a rush hour tripper), but they can transfer buses with each other. Jamaica sent some RTS buses over to LGA a few times this year, maybe more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Flushing Posted August 25, 2015 Share #15849 Posted August 25, 2015 I saw a RTS from Jamaica depot on the Q44 last week. I also see many short buses on the 44 also, I thought it's a artic route so why so many short buses? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted August 25, 2015 Share #15850 Posted August 25, 2015 What an epic ride on the Q10 tonight! The B/O flew most of the route which helped me make my connection to the ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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