BUS - Random Thoughts Thread

[Via Garibaldi 8]

Eh they don't have many years left anyways once the few remaining MCI's from staten Island are retired Bronx will get new buses.

The MCI's out of Yonkers are still in far better shape than the old ones on Staten Island.

[Far rockaway]

why did 8059-8069 went back to JA. Ain't QV supposed to receive all of the 2011 LFS. i would rather not see the 2011 lfs running out of JA anymore. It doesn't even fit right with the New LFS version.

[IAlam]

The MCI's out of Yonkers are still in far better shape than the old ones on Staten Island.

makes sense considering they are a newer model 

[MysteriousBtrain]

Anyone knows which XD60 was the first bus to be painted and not wrapped in the new scheme?

[Around the Horn]

Anyone knows which XD60 was the first bus to be painted and not wrapped in the new scheme?

Wait...Some of them are painted?

[MysteriousBtrain]

Wait...Some of them are painted?

Yep. I noticed that if you looked at the back of the 5300 series, you could see a bit of white that was left alone. The newer 5400 buses do not have the white in the back and instead show the gold and blue colors.

[Jdog14]

Anyone knows which XD60 was the first bus to be painted and not wrapped in the new scheme?

 

I think somewhere around 5412 was the first one. 

Wait...Some of them are painted?

 

Those are the ones that came in the plain white. The rest will be painted straight from the factory. 

[B22viaAtlanticAv]

#RantSunday this shit is f**king stressful working on the weekend and using the MTA.

Please tell me why they got three mother f**king b6 bunching on a Sunday; long ass lines first bus packed to shit and the other too just seat there on some long as layover later on down the line to have them zoom past the first bus playing tag

And they wonder why bus ridership is going down

[Fresh Pond]

#RantSunday this shit is f**king stressful working on the weekend and using the MTA.

Please tell me why they got three mother f**king b6 bunching on a Sunday; long ass lines first bus packed to shit and the other too just seat there on some long as layover later on down the line to have them zoom past the first bus playing tag

And they wonder why bus ridership is going down

Language...tone it down a notch

[B22viaAtlanticAv]

Sry I was just so mad about the situation

I got to treat the MTA like the Air Lines these days giving myself two hours grace period before making a one hour trip...

[XcelsiorBoii4888]

Sry I was just so mad about the situation

I got to treat the MTA like the Air Lines these days giving myself two hours grace period before making a one hour trip...

That's Ulmer Park for you...the worst when it comes to stuff like that.

[Future ENY OP]

That's Ulmer Park for you...the worst when it comes to stuff like that.

 

The simple problem is that Ulmer Park has the proper headways to create a Sunday like Limited Service on the B6.

The other problem is won't bulge to give UP Sunday service like FB, JG and FP which has Sunday service on the following lines.

B41, B46 (FB), B35 (JG), B38 (FP).

 

So when you see 3-4 buses coming from 1 direction going to East New York, and the lonely bus going to Rockaway Parkway..

Blame Ulmer Park Management not going to MTA brass and asking for Sunday Limited Service.

[S78 via Hylan]

The B38 LTD runs weekdays only.

[Future ENY OP]

The B38 LTD runs weekdays only.

 

You know what my mistake S78.. I realize the error.

[B22viaAtlanticAv]

That's Ulmer Park for you...the worst when it comes to stuff like that.

It seems as if most if not all the over depots have the same issue sadly.

 

The simple problem is that Ulmer Park has the proper headways to create a Sunday like Limited Service on the B6.

The other problem is won't bulge to give UP Sunday service like FB, JG and FP which has Sunday service on the following lines.

B41, B46 (FB), B35 (JG), B38 (FP).

 

So when you see 3-4 buses coming from 1 direction going to East New York, and the lonely bus going to Rockaway Parkway..

Blame Ulmer Park Management not going to MTA brass and asking for Sunday Limited Service.

I'm fine with no LTD on Sundays as long as the buses  same on schedule; it makes no sense for a 10:04,10:15,10:27 Buses all show up all at once. The 10:04  is going to be packed on the return trip while the other two run light all the way back. Someone  should've reset them from the terminal so they maintain the schedule it's not rocket science just plain common sense.

[S78 via Hylan]

I left work at 1:30 and arrived home exactly at 2:30 thanks to a perfect connection from the Q10 to the Q56.

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

There's several things wrong with this detour:

 

Service Change

Posted: 05/31/2016 7:16AM

QM4, QM15, QM16, QM17 and QM18 buses are detoured, due to NYPD activity on 6 Av between 53 St and 54 St.

Detour is as follows:

Eastbound: Via 6 Av, right on 60 St, left on Madison Av, right on 57 St and regular route.

Corresponding stops will be made along Madison Av.

Allow additional travel time.

[Around the Horn]

There's several things wrong with this detour:

 

right on 60 St, left on Madison Av, right on 57 St

Very wrong indeed...

[pranavbhat924]

I left work at 1:30 and arrived home exactly at 2:30 thanks to a perfect connection from the Q10 to the Q56.

Surprising that the Q56 ever came

The Q10 never dissapoints people, especially me!

[Future ENY OP]

It seems as if most if not all the over depots have the same issue sadly.

 

I'm fine with no LTD on Sundays as long as the buses same on schedule; it makes no sense for a 10:04,10:15,10:27 Buses all show up all at once. The 10:04 is going to be packed on the return trip while the other two run light all the way back. Someone should've reset them from the terminal so they maintain the schedule it's not rocket science just plain common sense.

I've made a issue about this a while ago.

However, with all the subway GO's and shuttle buses that are going on, and the inadequate amount of fleet right now. Can't have limited service on Sundays for the B6. Hopefully something changes soon. You have 4 buses trailing down during the AM and 4 during the PM thus having these buses running ???????????? towards ENY. This doesn't makes sense at all.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

I've made a issue about this a while ago.

However, with all the subway GO's and shuttle buses that are going on, and the inadequate amount of fleet right now. Can't have limited service on Sundays for the B6. Hopefully something changes soon. You have 4 buses trailing down during the AM and 4 during the PM thus having these buses running towards ENY. This doesn't makes sense at all.

I don't see why they can't have Limited-Stop service Sundays on the B6.  This is one thing that annoys me with the .  I am tired of them scaling back service on Sundays.  I mean it's 2016 not 1976. People work in the city 7 days a week in some cases or are out and about and I don't understand why they don't get this.  They may argue that fewer people use transit on Sundays, but part of that is because the runs crap service.  I know quite a few people don't go out on Sunday because they don't want to deal with long waits.  It's time for them to provide similar levels of service on Sunday as they do on Saturday throughout the system.  They are getting all of these new buses.  What's the point if they aren't going to improve service?  The other thing that can't happen soon enough... Them getting rid of those old nasty artics.  Those buses are so incredibly filthy.  They shouldn't even charge for the ride.

Edited May 31, 2016 by Via Garibaldi 8

[B35 via Church]

I don't see why they can't have Limited-Stop service Sundays on the B6.  This is one thing that annoys me with the .  I am tired of them scaling back service on Sundays.  I mean it's 2016 not 1976. People work in the city 7 days a week in some cases or are out and about and I don't understand why they don't get this.  They may argue that fewer people use transit on Sundays, but part of that is because the runs crap service.  I know quite a few people don't go out on Sunday because they don't want to deal with long waits.  It's time for them to provide similar levels of service on Sunday as they do on Saturday throughout the system.  They are getting all of these new buses.  What's the point if they aren't going to improve service?  The other thing that can't happen soon enough... Them getting rid of those old nasty artics.  Those buses are so incredibly filthy.  They shouldn't even charge for the ride.

Your point about Sunday service is definitely valid as well, but this (emboldened) is the very thing that's annoying me about this agency as of late.... I'm tired of hearing how cash strapped the MTA is, when they're threatening to raise fares again, this & this, and that, but there are these new buses all over the place.... Nobody's saying you have to ride the older buses til the wheels fall off, but this is too much too soon.... IDK what they're trying to prove here....

 

I've always said this, you only hear people cry broke when it's something they don't want to come out of pocket for.....

[Trainmaster5]

I've got a few questions for my Surface folks, especially those familiar with Brooklyn. Every weekday morning about 5:30 or so there's a B41 on Bustime heading n/b for Empire Blvd. where it terminates. It vanishes from Bustime so for a few days I tried to find this bus. One morning, on Bustime, there was a notation that the next stop was Eastern Parkway and Nostrand Avenue which is on the B44 route. Two questions here. Why Eastern Parkway and Nostrand instead of Empire Blvd and Nostrand? What route does it take to get to Eastern Parkway? I know there aren't many posters up and about at that time but I'm just curious. My other question pertains to what appears to be small deviations on some Brooklyn routes that may be special (school) trips. Again, from Bustime, B6 e/b stop at Flatlands and Elton, with a B20 stop too, B12 at old Wingate HS at Kingston and Rutland, , B6 at East 45th St and Glenwood Rd., and a B41 stop at Fillmore and Stuart St among others. Last question pertains to all of these routings and those I haven't mentioned like the B46 at East 68th and Avenue N. Are these just starting points for these runs or are they also destination points with special signage?  Before I forget the obvious question about my B41 to Empire. Why not run it to the Junction as a B41 and turn it into a B44 there ,n/b or s/b ?Thanks in advance people.

[checkmatechamp13]

I've made a issue about this a while ago.

However, with all the subway GO's and shuttle buses that are going on, and the inadequate amount of fleet right now. Can't have limited service on Sundays for the B6. Hopefully something changes soon. You have 4 buses trailing down during the AM and 4 during the PM thus having these buses running towards ENY. This doesn't makes sense at all.

 

Why not? You simply slap a "LIMITED" sign on the existing buses running to/from ENY and call it a day. So the buses run every 14-15 minutes instead of every 12 minutes, big deal. Better than waiting a half hour and having 4 show up at once.

 

As far as the fleet, that is the worst excuse I've ever heard. If they have enough buses to run Saturday service, they have enough for Sunday service. GOs are generally the whole weekend, not Sunday only. Not increasing frequencies is purely about not wanting to pay the B/Os for the extra runs (and an increase in frequency from 7 minute headways to 6 minute headways would require a whopping 17% more B/Os for that particular route, going off the lazy assumption that the running time and layover time remains the same, which is obviously unlikely as the limiteds will be able to move through the route quicker)

[JubaionBx12+SBS]

Labor costs are the main issue with the MTA financially speaking. I personally feel that the unions will always complain about the finances as a way to gain (or cry for) more funding for the agency which will in turn use it to bloat salaries each time contracts are negotiated. I'm usually a fan of labor unions but the unions behind labor in NYCT are a little too strong for their own good.