Fresh Pond Posted April 9, 2011 Share #101 Posted April 9, 2011 You say that,but i don't hear much nosie coming from riders who commute on the line. Maybe cuz they don't care what they have, as long as something shows up. Or maybe cuz they're not so nitpicky like the other places I'm just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share #102 Posted April 9, 2011 Whoops, my bad. Yeah its alright, and Plus That's good they don't have strong Politics because I can't stand politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted April 9, 2011 Share #103 Posted April 9, 2011 Yeah its alright, and Plus That's good they don't have strong Politics because I can't stand politics The listens to the politicians because the politicians control the purse strings. The stronger the politician's power, the more they,, listen. A bunch of people protesting about R32s on the line means nothing compared to 2 or 3 influential politicians making the right phone calls to those in power at the . While you might hate politics remember it's who controls the money is who calls the shots in the real world. Central Brooklyn has a bad habit of not voting, except in '08, and that's why it's representatives in Albany have such little clout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted April 9, 2011 Author Share #104 Posted April 9, 2011 The listens to the politicians because the politicians control the purse strings. The stronger the politician's power, the more they,, listen. A bunch of people protesting about R32s on the line means nothing compared to 2 or 3 influential politicians making the right phone calls to those in power at the . While you might hate politics remember it's who controls the money is who calls the shots in the real world. Central Brooklyn has a bad habit of not voting, except in '08, and that's why it's representatives in Albany have such little clout. I Know Its just funny How they had to hear those stupid riders run their mouths and that it was unfair that the had old equipment while back when the R38,40,42,44 and R46's were brand New The had gotten them first, People in Springfeild Gardens (they have the wrost politics out of queens) all they do is complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted April 9, 2011 Share #105 Posted April 9, 2011 I Know Its just funny How they had to hear those stupid riders run their mouths and that it was unfair that the had old equipment while back when the R38,40,42,44 and R46's were brand New The had gotten them first, People in Springfeild Gardens (they have the wrost politics out of queens) all they do is complain. Springfield Gardens, South Jamaica, Bedford-Stuyvesant, the politicians look at the eligible voters and compare it to how many actually vote. That's where many areas fail. You also have many politicians who don't give a rat's behind about those who put them in office. They're in it for the dinero, period. That goes for ALL neighborhoods. Just check out who is being investigated or already indicted in the last decade or so. If your local politicians are unresponsive to their own constituents you better believe the won't pay any attention to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted April 9, 2011 Share #106 Posted April 9, 2011 they did complain, its just that it was not public, and plus half of them don't care, I spoke to a freind that lives in that area of the (A)/© and he told me people complained, rerember they don't have strong politics like in Queens,South Brooklyn and Manhattan that Have Stong Politics. Well then those complaints are falling on deaf ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted April 9, 2011 Share #107 Posted April 9, 2011 Maybe cuz they don't care what they have, as long as something shows up. Or maybe cuz they're not so nitpicky like the other places I'm just saying line riders should be glad they have service even if the R32 cars are 46 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTOMan Posted April 9, 2011 Share #108 Posted April 9, 2011 Isn't it like 4 downstairs @ CTL (2 on 5 tk and 2 on 6 tk); 2 in JYD (car wash side), and the rest starting at D3 Parsons/Hillside station going back toward 169? Yes its Four of them down there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSmith Posted April 9, 2011 Share #109 Posted April 9, 2011 I don't know what politics this R32 obsessed poster is talking about with the E line. The E Line ran mostly R32s from 1990-2007, 17 years and then started mixing old R42/R40Ms in the line and finally put the R160 into service in December 2008 and it is one of the last lines to go all R160. The E gets R160 because it is a very heavily traveled line, no one can show it is because of politics. The R32s are supposed to be retired and would be were it not for the structural failure of the R44s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 9, 2011 Share #110 Posted April 9, 2011 I don't know what politics this R32 obsessed poster is talking about with the E line. The E Line ran mostly R32s from 1990-2007, 17 years and then started mixing old R42/R40Ms in the line and finally put the R160 into service in December 2008 and it is one of the last lines to go all R160. The E gets R160 because it is a very heavily traveled line, no one can show it is because of politics. The R32s are supposed to be retired and would be were it not for the structural failure of the R44s. I think 'politics' is a much more of a factor in the major decision in route plannings for all subway and bus lines then the selection of what subway cars runs. So great comments there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted April 9, 2011 Share #111 Posted April 9, 2011 I heard somewhere the reason the lost its R46s in the early 1990s was because the load/unload times were getting too high becasue of the 75 foot cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted April 10, 2011 Share #112 Posted April 10, 2011 I heard somewhere the reason the lost its R46s in the early 1990s was because the load/unload times were getting too high becasue of the 75 foot cars. And that is true. On a 60' car, there's a total of 40 sets of doors you can enter/exit through (10 x 4), whereas on a 75' car, there's only 32 sets of doors (8 x 4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted April 12, 2011 Share #113 Posted April 12, 2011 As far as I know NTT has trended toward the more crowded lines where the partial close feature can be best utilized (see: ) got them as they share 160 equipment with the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Rock Depot Posted April 13, 2011 Share #114 Posted April 13, 2011 You say that,but i don't hear much nosie coming from riders who commute on the line. Maybe cuz they don't care what they have, as long as something shows up. Or maybe cuz they're not so nitpicky like the other places I'm just saying I think 'politics' is a much more of a factor in the major decision in route plannings for all subway and bus lines then the selection of what subway cars runs. So great comments there. I agree. Ride the trains. Watch the news. Attend the public hearings. Riders mostly dont complain about what cars they get. Its HOW OFTEN THE RUN. Ill take a 40+ year old train every 5 mins than a R160 every 20 mins any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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