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:mad: :tdown::tdown: This has to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard!! Now Con ED will raise the rates because they're wasting money on legal BS!! The poles in that are and for that matter lots of poles on the North Shore shouldve been replaced a long time ago! They are all OLD!

 

http://www.silive.com/northshore/index.ssf/2011/04/con_edison_sues_hapless_staten.html

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Stop kissing up to the MTA. The bus driver hit a pole which resulted in damages, therefore it is the driver's fault. If he had not hit the pole no damages would've occurred. If it wasn't a bus driver you would be saying how stupid the guy was for hitting a pole.

 

Now if the poles were faulty or caused more damage than they should've done then the driver shouldn't be responsible for the full $81,000, and most likely it will be settled to a much lesser amount, but he is still at fault and is responsible for what happened. He shouldn't get special treatment because he works for the MTA.

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Stop kissing up to the MTA. The bus driver hit a pole which resulted in damages, therefore it is the driver's fault. If he had not hit the pole no damages would've occurred. If it wasn't a bus driver you would be saying how stupid the guy was for hitting a pole.

 

Now if the poles were faulty or caused more damage than they should've done then the driver shouldn't be responsible for the full $81,000, and most likely it will be settled to a much lesser amount, but he is still at fault and is responsible for what happened. He shouldn't get special treatment because he works for the MTA.

 

Transit Workers are like a brother hood! They stand behind each other. I wouldn't blame the driver 100%. What if that pole was damaged and it fell because it was weak! The answer is not alway obvious and you don't know what REALLY happened. You WEREN'T there.

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Stop kissing up to the MTA. The bus driver hit a pole which resulted in damages, therefore it is the driver's fault. If he had not hit the pole no damages would've occurred. If it wasn't a bus driver you would be saying how stupid the guy was for hitting a pole.

 

Now if the poles were faulty or caused more damage than they should've done then the driver shouldn't be responsible for the full $81,000, and most likely it will be settled to a much lesser amount, but he is still at fault and is responsible for what happened. He shouldn't get special treatment because he works for the MTA.

 

1st of all I DONT KISS the MTAS ASS! Yes The driver hit the Friggin pole, but if u had half a brain and were familiar with the area in question, youd know that the poles were ancient!! Even treated wood rots with time!!! ! POLE HIT usually doesn't cause 3 more to fall!! I doubt that if they were maintained as the should be this would has caused the damage it did!!! I WILL DEFEND MY BROTHERS AND SISTER LIKE I DO EVERY DAY AS A UNION MAN! SO WHY DONT YOU STOP KISS CON EDS ASS! U GONNA GET A CUT OF THE MONEY SHOULD THEY EVER COLLECT? :mad::mad::mad::mad:

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1st of all I DONT KISS the MTAS ASS! Yes The driver hit the Friggin pole, but if u had half a brain and were familiar with the area in question, youd know that the poles were ancient!! Even treated wood rots with time!!! ! POLE HIT usually doesn't cause 3 more to fall!! I doubt that if they were maintained as the should be this would has caused the damage it did!!! I WILL DEFEND MY BROTHERS AND SISTER LIKE I DO EVERY DAY AS A UNION MAN! SO WHY DONT YOU STOP KISS CON EDS ASS! U GONNA GET A CUT OF THE MONEY SHOULD THEY EVER COLLECT? :mad::mad::mad::mad:

 

Ok ok, sorry. I didn't realize that the poles were that weak. Tomorrow I'm gonna drive out there and smash as many poles as I can with my car and it'll be Con Ed's fault for making weak poles.

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Ok ok, sorry. I didn't realize that the poles were that weak. Tomorrow I'm gonna drive out there and smash as many poles as I can with my car and it'll be Con Ed's fault for making weak poles.

 

That smartass reply was uncalled for.

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Didint say he WASNT Responsible. I DID SAY YES HE HIT THE POLE!!!! In fact the TA kinda made an example of him in the discipline they gave him. That though Im not gonna elborate on because youd only respond in an smart ass manner any way and as a union man its not right and fair to the operator. Thers always one in a bunch. I guess you dont work for the TA or DO YOU? My whole point was that its retarded to was money and time trying to sue for something they are never gonna get even if they win! but you decided that it was ok to bash a bus driver and his fellow uniion brother because you obviously have an issue or two. We Driversare human and yes we F@#k Up on occasion, but that doesnt make it fair or just to make it open season on us by people like you Con Ed, or the rest of the firggin world.

 

With this post Im done dealing with you because when you deal with a moron, you become a moron. Enough Said!

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Why does the fact that he's a bus driver make him not responsible for the damages?

 

What if this was an accident waiting to happen? What if the pole was leaning towards the road? Yes he did hit the pole and he's responsible for the damages, but there is always two sides to a story and you are obviously sticking your nose into one side of it.

 

Richmond Terrace is a narrow stretch of road and the sidewalks are incredibly close to the streets and the poles are placed right next to the streets, close enough for a car to hit. If you actually GO to that area, you will know that there are several poles in the area that lean towards the streets. And lets not forget how wide a bus is.

 

If the poles were leaning towards the road, that's Con Ed's fault for not resolving that issue, as that does bring up a safety issue within the neighborhood.

 

Plus, there's an issue with this article, the S76 does not run nearby that area at all. This sounds more like he was either deadheading to the depot or over to St. George.

One again, your stupid smartass remarks are uncalled for. Better cut that shit out.

 

Didint say he WASNT Responsible. I DID SAY YES HE HIT THE POLE!!!! In fact the TA kinda made an example of him in the discipline they gave him. That though Im not gonna elborate on because youd only respond in an smart ass manner any way and as a union man its not right and fair to the operator. Thers always one in a bunch. I guess you dont work for the TA or DO YOU? My whole point was that its retarded to was money and time trying to sue for something they are never gonna get even if they win! but you decided that it was ok to bash a bus driver and his fellow uniion brother because you obviously have an issue or two. We Drivers are human and yes we F@#k Up on occasion, but that doesnt make it fair or just to make it open season on us by people like you Con Ed, or the rest of the firggin world.

 

With this post Im done dealing with you because when you deal with a moron, you become a moron. Enough Said!

 

Excellent post.

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Ok ok, sorry. I didn't realize that the poles were that weak. Tomorrow I'm gonna drive out there and smash as many poles as I can with my car and it'll be Con Ed's fault for making weak poles.

 

Lmfaooooooo.

 

I can't even really comment, I'm not familiar with Staten Island (outside of the highways) and I wasn't there. It sounds like it was an accident waiting to happen but then again if it was that prone to occurring it probably would've happened already (has it happened before?). I don't know, I disagree with suing him and on top of that Con Ed should be the LAST thing to be suing ANYONE.

 

I don't see the need for hostility on either end, nobody was there and nobody knows HOW/WHY it happened. Just blind speculation. Everyone is so quick to accuse or defend.

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Ok ok, sorry. I didn't realize that the poles were that weak. Tomorrow I'm gonna drive out there and smash as many poles as I can with my car and it'll be Con Ed's fault for making weak poles.

 

I straight up don't like you for that smartass comment.

 

Accidents happen, what? Do you really think he hit the pole on purpose?

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Ok ok whatever, but I think that Con Ed has a completely good reason to sue for the damages caused. Of course the bus driver didn't mean to hit it, but he did. I was not bashing the bus driver at all, I was just saying how being an MTA employee should not protect you from being sued for when you crash into something.

 

And no, I do not work for the MTA and I have absolutely no desire to. I'm not working yet, but when I do I plan to get a job where you can make good money.

 

And Cait Sith, just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean that you should only tell me to stop. I'm trying to calmly say what I believe, but the post the OP made with the incredible amount of spelling/grammar mistakes, unnecessary and excessive capitalization, and unneeded angry emoticons set me off.

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Stop kissing up to the MTA. The bus driver hit a pole which resulted in damages, therefore it is the driver's fault. If he had not hit the pole no damages would've occurred. If it wasn't a bus driver you would be saying how stupid the guy was for hitting a pole.

 

Now if the poles were faulty or caused more damage than they should've done then the driver shouldn't be responsible for the full $81,000, and most likely it will be settled to a much lesser amount, but he is still at fault and is responsible for what happened. He shouldn't get special treatment because he works for the MTA.

 

 

Sure he's responsible for hitting the pole, but it seems to be an accident. Suing the guy for $81,000 sounds ridiculous, (MTA) B/O or not. ConEd has been known for using very old equipment in general so this is just them looking to scapegoat someone, which is really pathetic seeing how much money they make.

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What if this was an accident waiting to happen? What if the pole was leaning towards the road? Yes he did hit the pole and he's responsible for the damages, but there is always two sides to a story and you are obviously sticking your nose into one side of it.

 

Richmond Terrace is a narrow stretch of road and the sidewalks are incredibly close to the streets and the poles are placed right next to the streets, close enough for a car to hit. If you actually GO to that area, you will know that there are several poles in the area that lean towards the streets. And lets not forget how wide a bus is.

 

If the poles were leaning towards the road, that's Con Ed's fault for not resolving that issue, as that does bring up a safety issue within the neighborhood.

 

Plus, there's an issue with this article, the S76 does not run nearby that area at all. This sounds more like he was either deadheading to the depot or over to St. George.

One again, your stupid smartass remarks are uncalled for. Better cut that shit out.

 

 

 

Excellent post.

 

I'm 99% sure that the S76 is based out of the Castleton Depot, so that would mean that he was deadheading, and would become an S76 at St. George.

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Ok ok whatever, but I think that Con Ed has a completely good reason to sue for the damages caused. Of course the bus driver didn't mean to hit it, but he did. I was not bashing the bus driver at all, I was just saying how being an MTA employee should not protect you from being sued for when you crash into something.

 

And no, I do not work for the MTA and I have absolutely no desire to. I'm not working yet, but when I do I plan to get a job where you can make good money.

 

And Cait Sith, just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean that you should only tell me to stop. I'm trying to calmly say what I believe, but the post the OP made with the incredible amount of spelling/grammar mistakes, unnecessary and excessive capitalization, and unneeded angry emoticons set me off.

 

Sure he's responsible for hitting the pole, but it seems to be an accident. Suing the guy for $81,000 sounds ridiculous, (MTA) B/O or not. ConEd has been known for using very old equipment in general so this is just them looking to scapegoat someone, which is really pathetic seeing how much money they make.

 

FINALLY KR has come back......to stick up for the BROTHERHOOD

@Gorger.....so you want CS not to tell to stop huh???.....hmmmmmm

IT DOESNT MATTER what you want and you barked up the wrong tree by sticking your face where its not wanted....oh I get it your a POLE supervisor all of a sudden huh you specialize in BIG POLES huh hmmmm didnt know that about ya ,Well thats all nice and dandy but you can't think for a minute that this Bus Op hit it on purpose can ya?? Accidents happen and you just want this guy to get sued cuz why whats your interest in this POLE huh?? I want to know so does the rest of us.

If he does have to pay then I WANT you to get something going for this Bus Op ....A Donation perhaps ...good you can drive to the bus ops house and give a donation ok good ok ...

 

By the way pick up Jabroni and hit some poles :D....With that said heyyyyy

Jabroni ,Sure your responsible .....For what you ask hmmmm sticking your mouth where it aINT OF VALUE NOW ENJOY THE RIDE with gorger buddy cuz I know you's two have something in common and thats POLES:)

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FINALLY KR has come back......to stick up for the BROTHERHOOD

@Gorger.....so you want CS not to tell to stop huh???.....hmmmmmm

IT DOESNT MATTER what you want and you barked up the wrong tree by sticking your face where its not wanted....oh I get it your a POLE supervisor all of a sudden huh you specialize in BIG POLES huh hmmmm didnt know that about ya ,Well thats all nice and dandy but you can't think for a minute that this Bus Op hit it on purpose can ya?? Accidents happen and you just want this guy to get sued cuz why whats your interest in this POLE huh?? I want to know so does the rest of us.

If he does have to pay then I WANT you to get something going for this Bus Op ....A Donation perhaps ...good you can drive to the bus ops house and give a donation ok good ok ...

 

By the way pick up Jabroni and hit some poles :D....With that said heyyyyy

Jabroni ,Sure your responsible .....For what you ask hmmmm sticking your mouth where it aINT OF VALUE NOW ENJOY THE RIDE with gorger buddy cuz I know you's two have something in common and thats POLES:)

 

I LOL'd at this post! :tup:

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FINALLY KR has come back......to stick up for the BROTHERHOOD

@Gorger.....so you want CS not to tell to stop huh???.....hmmmmmm

IT DOESNT MATTER what you want and you barked up the wrong tree by sticking your face where its not wanted....oh I get it your a POLE supervisor all of a sudden huh you specialize in BIG POLES huh hmmmm didnt know that about ya ,Well thats all nice and dandy but you can't think for a minute that this Bus Op hit it on purpose can ya?? Accidents happen and you just want this guy to get sued cuz why whats your interest in this POLE huh?? I want to know so does the rest of us.

If he does have to pay then I WANT you to get something going for this Bus Op ....A Donation perhaps ...good you can drive to the bus ops house and give a donation ok good ok ...

 

By the way pick up Jabroni and hit some poles :(....With that said heyyyyy

Jabroni ,Sure your responsible .....For what you ask hmmmm sticking your mouth where it aINT OF VALUE NOW ENJOY THE RIDE with gorger buddy cuz I know you's two have something in common and thats POLES:)

 

KNIGHTRIDER has finally come back to talk about "poles" as usual... What else is new? And this is coming from someone who isn't a specialist in the field... Hmm, makes me wonder...

 

Anyway, Staten Island is my turf, so you can watch from the sidelines on this one Mr. Man. :D

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FINALLY KR has come back......to stick up for the BROTHERHOOD

@Gorger.....so you want CS not to tell to stop huh???.....hmmmmmm

IT DOESNT MATTER what you want and you barked up the wrong tree by sticking your face where its not wanted....oh I get it your a POLE supervisor all of a sudden huh you specialize in BIG POLES huh hmmmm didnt know that about ya ,Well thats all nice and dandy but you can't think for a minute that this Bus Op hit it on purpose can ya?? Accidents happen and you just want this guy to get sued cuz why whats your interest in this POLE huh?? I want to know so does the rest of us.

If he does have to pay then I WANT you to get something going for this Bus Op ....A Donation perhaps ...good you can drive to the bus ops house and give a donation ok good ok ...

 

By the way pick up Jabroni and hit some poles :(....With that said heyyyyy

Jabroni ,Sure your responsible .....For what you ask hmmmm sticking your mouth where it aINT OF VALUE NOW ENJOY THE RIDE with gorger buddy cuz I know you's two have something in common and thats POLES:)

 

For the second time... it's Gorgor, with an o. :D

 

And I'm sorry, I didn't realize that it was against the board rules to post anything that wasn't in favor of the MTA. And just because I disagree with your views doesn't mean that I don't feel sorry for the bus driver. Accidents happen, it's just that there's always someone at fault, even if it was completely unintentional such as this.

 

Answer me this though, if I were driving and I accidentally hit a light post which caused it to come crashing down on the street, have glass shatter everywhere, and have it damage a few parked cars on its way down, is it my fault and should I be held financially responsible for the damages? Now lets say a bus driver is driving a bus and does the same thing, is it his fault and should he be held responsible?

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I wouldnt be surprised if they are trying to do this to cover their asses for neglecting their equipment for so long and putting the blame on him.. Besides, he cant be sued personally as he was driving on the job and should be covered by the insurance company.

 

Its rare that people smash into a pole and it pulls others with it.. Ive seen accidents that snapped the electric pole completly but it didnt knock over any others.. What a freak thing to happen.

 

I hope he defeats these bastards.

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Lmfaooooooo.

 

I can't even really comment, I'm not familiar with Staten Island (outside of the highways) and I wasn't there. It sounds like it was an accident waiting to happen but then again if it was that prone to occurring it probably would've happened already (has it happened before?). I don't know, I disagree with suing him and on top of that Con Ed should be the LAST thing to be suing ANYONE.

 

I don't see the need for hostility on either end, nobody was there and nobody knows HOW/WHY it happened. Just blind speculation. Everyone is so quick to accuse or defend.

 

I was there as along side the union reps observing the happenings of an accident investigation!!!!! As I posted in previous post I DON'T SPECULATE!

So you can see why there is hostility and resentment on my behalf. I didn't think that for one minute that IGOR would turn this into a war of words! I just wanted to get the fact out that its stupid for con ed to take somoeone for court when theres something called insurance. Which by the way I believe the TA is self-insured and I wouldnt doubt that Edison didn't bill the TA for at least twice that amount and was already paid.

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This lawsuit is pathetic. The absolute most that I could see the driver being held responsible for is the cost of replacement of the pole that was hit, and that's assuming the pole was well outside the reasonable clearance envelope of the bus and there was no reason for him/her to be focused on anything but the road. I doubt that was actually the case; I've been through parts of SI and Richmond Terrace is quite narrow and the turn he had to make looks pretty tough, meaning that I think we can all agree that the reasonable clearance envelope of the bus probably extends onto the sidewalk there. In addition, given the general quality of ConEd equipment I find it hard to believe that the pole was as straight nor as sturdy as it should have been. Based on that case, I can see no reason to hold the bus driver responsible for all but a token amount of the damages. To Kamen Rider: Yes, a lawsuit of this nature is standard for these cases, but I should hope that in any civilized justice system the case would be promptly discarded.

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I'm 99% sure that the S76 is based out of the Castleton Depot, so that would mean that he was deadheading, and would become an S76 at St. George.

 

Wow! Congratulations for reading the article!

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Well, actually, no congratulations. Just read the article next time. It explains everything the driver was doing on that S76.

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