metsfan Posted May 14, 2008 Share #1 Posted May 14, 2008 I was wondering... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBAG_Class_101 Based on that design, the alp-46 could get more powerful traction systems put in and up the HP to a tad bit over 8,500. If they did this, and the speed restrictions were raised, you could get passenger service on (NJT) with stops under an hour from NYP to TRE........ Reactions? - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted May 15, 2008 Share #2 Posted May 15, 2008 The ALP-46As are going to be more powerful. Their main purpose is to run on the super express runs with MLVs. They will be allowed to do about 125 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted May 15, 2008 The ALP-46Ms are going to be more powerful. Their main purpose is to run on the super express runs with MLVs. They will be allowed to do about 125 MPH. Is there a proposed date? After track work is completed? - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted May 15, 2008 Share #4 Posted May 15, 2008 Is there a proposed date? After track work is completed? - Andy Its going to be a while before they come in. For now, its just an order and contract set up with probably the locos in production soon. I think we should be expecting them in 2009 or 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted May 15, 2008 Its going to be a while before they come in. For now, its just an order and contract set up with probably the locos in production soon. I think we should be expecting them in 2009 or 2010. Sweet!!! I can't wait! - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N-Trizzy2609 Posted May 15, 2008 Share #6 Posted May 15, 2008 Seriously, I heard the ALP-44's are going for a midlife overhaul now ALP-46A's? Hmm, NJ Transit got their work cut out for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted May 15, 2008 Share #7 Posted May 15, 2008 Yup. ALP-44s getting a rehab, and a new paintjob supposedly, and then the ALP-46As for increase service and for the MLVs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 15, 2008 Author Share #8 Posted May 15, 2008 Yup. ALP-44s getting a rehab, and a new paintjob supposedly, and then the ALP-46As for increase service and for the MLVs. The toasters are looking rather haggard in terms of paint and overall finish. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Express Posted May 21, 2008 Share #9 Posted May 21, 2008 The ALP-46As are going to be more powerful. Their main purpose is to run on the super express runs with MLVs. They will be allowed to do about 125 MPH. I guess that means NJ Transit is going to ease up on their 100mph speed restriction for equipment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share #10 Posted May 21, 2008 I guess that means NJ Transit is going to ease up on their 100mph speed restriction for equipment I am pretty sure the 27 new alp-46a's will be cleared up to 125, but the older ones only to 100, i guess we'll see. The current alp-46's have 125 mph capability, but they might have electronic or mechanical governors to keep it 100 and under. The big difference, and one that is allowing the higher speeds is that the new loco's will be 8500hp, which is 1400 more than the current alp-46's. To put that in perspective, the acela's traction units are only 8000 hp, and the double ended HHP8 is also only 8000 hp. With the introduction to service of the alp-46a (NJT) will officially own the most powerful electric loco i know of in operation in the country. Something that will very muc help increase service and ease congestion on the nearing capacity stretch of the NEC that (NJT) runs on - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo M 201 Posted May 21, 2008 Share #11 Posted May 21, 2008 I guess that means NJ Transit is going to ease up on their 100mph speed restriction for equipment For now from what I know, its only for the NEC Super Expresses that trains are going to hit up to 125 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastman346 Posted May 21, 2008 Share #12 Posted May 21, 2008 Does New Jersey Transit run trains now at 100+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 21, 2008 Author Share #13 Posted May 21, 2008 Does New Jersey Transit run trains now at 100+? ALP-46 in pull mode does 100, as do the ALP-44 in pull mode. In push mode they only do 95. The ALP-46 electronics you can tell have so much more grunt to them than the ALP-44. They accelerate faster and dont struggle at all with the multilevel consists, even when maxed out with 10 in tow. Don't get me wrong, i loves me some toasters, but... the ALP-46 is sleeker and has more muscle, the new versions even more so w/ the upgraded guts & control systems. - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaica Express Posted May 22, 2008 Share #14 Posted May 22, 2008 Does New Jersey Transit run trains now at 100+? A few Princeton Jct Expresses reach 100 mph, if they are in pull mode....if they are being pushed, they're gonna reach 90mph at best All other lines have a few spots where they may see 80 at best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 22, 2008 Share #15 Posted May 22, 2008 A few Princeton Jct Expresses reach 100 mph, if they are in pull mode....if they are being pushed, they're gonna reach 90mph at best All other lines have a few spots where they may see 80 at best... On some parts of the :njc: it certainly feels like they run at least 80 mph or more. Does anyone know for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyT Posted May 22, 2008 Share #16 Posted May 22, 2008 On some parts of the :njc: it certainly feels like they run at least 80 mph or more. Does anyone know for sure? The set speed limit in some areas is 80mph with the average for Long Branch North is 70ish... So it is very well possible.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted May 22, 2008 Author Share #17 Posted May 22, 2008 The set speed limit in some areas is 80mph with the average for Long Branch North is 70ish...So it is very well possible.. I know the parts after long branch are slower. You can see cars passing sometimes. On a side note, i'll be going to NYC in the morning, and using the new timetable, so it should be interesting what i see going on as far as trackwork. Will try to get many, may photos! - Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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