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There won't be any parallel parking or backing. You may have to do some part of the pre-trip and brake test but most instructors just get to the nitty gritty on Day 7. You will be tested on everything that you've been taught, since you'll be applying it as you drive along. Look at your daily sheets and take note on what your instructor wrote on them, as they are the hints to what you need to improve on (like right side coverage) and what they may be looking at more.

Typical Day 7 messups:

- Failure to check mirrors every 3-5
- Failure to secure the bus
- Failure to maintain the 4 ft clearance
- Failure to cover your right side
- Failure to acknowledge a hazard within your 4 ft -- bikes, peds, etc. (And not stopping / getting away, if they are in your 4 ft)
- Failure to acknowledge a potential hazard (Call everything out, talk bout potential things that can play out -- like the cab cutting in front of you)
- Failure to hit that horn approaching / passing a hazard
- Having to get backed up
- Getting into an accident
-Hitting those construction cones in the street, counts as hitting a fixed object.

- Mis-timing a light and ending up stopped in the crosswalk. Anything past is running the light. If you're making a turn, if you are not at your reference point, then you are not committed, thus you are caught in the intersection.

 

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10 hours ago, Felcel said:

Monday will be day 5 of training out of kingsbridge. The instructor tells me I'm doing well but I just have to cover my right side ASAP!. My questions is, how long do we drive on qualification day? Are we told right away if we passed or do we wait until the other drivers are done?

Who’s your Supt?

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On 2/8/2020 at 3:14 PM, Felcel said:

You're absolutely right! I have to cover my right side more often. My other question is, on qualification day are we doing everything we have learned the days before? For example, parallel parking, hook turns, servicing bus stops?? Since I have my cdl I dont have to take road test my, my instructor told me to focus on what we have learned thus far. 

Also, what gets you disqualified on day 7 besides the obvious getting charlie braked hitting the curb red lights, speed.

Thanks for your reply

Keep in mind that day 6 is also critical. You'll be in lower Manhattan. Getting trolley braked on Day 6 is an automatic Day 8 and 9!

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On 2/12/2020 at 5:18 PM, Felcel said:

I passed on day 7! 

Can mabstoa operators work in any brooklyn depot?

Yes, you can pick into any Brooklyn depot except for Spring Creek. Congrats!

8 hours ago, train1290 said:

Ok, what street does the route start and end?

Just keep in mind that your Day 7 will differ because your superintendent can take you anywhere. Focus moreso on what you need to do to get through the route. 

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6 hours ago, Felcel said:

Any advice during line training? I chose ulmer park depot. Pleaseee tell me good things about it

Ulmer Park has the B1, B3, B6, B36, B64, B74 and the express routes: X27/28 and the X37/38.

Not too versed on their lines but always pay attention to what the operator you are assigned to tells you about the line you train on. Ulmer Park also does some school trips that involve runs on the B9 (usually not the entire route), which is based out of Gleason. 

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Hi everyone

I am going into day 5 and am having trouble with turns and acute turns.

I am not hitting the curb but my instructor says I am turning the wheel to slow so I end up usually turning too wide.

I was looking at the handouts posted by +Young+  and for acute turns my instructor says to use front bumper line up to the right side of the curb for a left acute turn.

What is the reference point for obtuse right turns, it is not to clear on the handout?

If I turn the wheel to slow how can I adjust for not turning so wide?

Thanks guys

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6 hours ago, hh1a said:

Hi everyone

I am going into day 5 and am having trouble with turns and acute turns.

I am not hitting the curb but my instructor says I am turning the wheel to slow so I end up usually turning too wide.

I was looking at the handouts posted by +Young+  and for acute turns my instructor says to use front bumper line up to the right side of the curb for a left acute turn.

What is the reference point for obtuse right turns, it is not to clear on the handout?

If I turn the wheel to slow how can I adjust for not turning so wide?

Thanks guys

When I zoom-in on the image you are referring to, it says for obtuse right turns "You must turn later! Start your turn when your front door (inside reference point) is past the object you are turning on." In the image, the object is the curb. However, if there is a car parked at that intersection, then the object would be the rear bumper of the car. Make sure you keep an eye on that pivot point, which are the rear tires as well!

As far as turning the wheel to slow, you just have to use the "push-and-pull" method faster. As an example, while you're at home, try using the "push and pull" method with a paper or plastic plate slowly compared to using the "push and pull" method with a paper plate more faster. It's the same concept. This should also clear up the reason why you are making your turns so wide as well.

(If you don't have paper or plastic plates, you can use a regular glass plate instead. I would just do this a few inches off of a soft surface, such as a carpet, in the event you drop it for whatever reason.)

Good luck!!

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11 hours ago, hh1a said:

Hi everyone

I am going into day 5 and am having trouble with turns and acute turns.

I am not hitting the curb but my instructor says I am turning the wheel to slow so I end up usually turning too wide.

I was looking at the handouts posted by +Young+  and for acute turns my instructor says to use front bumper line up to the right side of the curb for a left acute turn.

What is the reference point for obtuse right turns, it is not to clear on the handout?

If I turn the wheel to slow how can I adjust for not turning so wide?

Thanks guys

For an acute turn you need to start turning the wheel before you start moving forward into the turn. It’s something you’ll get better with as you find them on the road but there aren’t any extreme difficult turns on qualifying day 7

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13 hours ago, hh1a said:

Hi everyone

I am going into day 5 and am having trouble with turns and acute turns.

I am not hitting the curb but my instructor says I am turning the wheel to slow so I end up usually turning too wide.

I was looking at the handouts posted by +Young+  and for acute turns my instructor says to use front bumper line up to the right side of the curb for a left acute turn.

What is the reference point for obtuse right turns, it is not to clear on the handout?

If I turn the wheel to slow how can I adjust for not turning so wide?

Thanks guys

Turn the wheel more faster, you want to create a sharper angle that you go around the curb at. You want to try and get your rear wheel pivoting around the curb. If you're going too much towards the curb, you can always correct it by going back towards the right. 

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Hey everyone, thank you for the advice on turns.

Does anyone know if you pass qualification day but end up failing the DMV road test, does that mean you still have to wait 5 years?

Would the 1 and 3 rule still apply if you pass qualification day but fail the DMV road test?

Thanks

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4 hours ago, hh1a said:

Hey everyone, thank you for the advice on turns.

Does anyone know if you pass qualification day but end up failing the DMV road test, does that mean you still have to wait 5 years?

Would the 1 and 3 rule still apply if you pass qualification day but fail the DMV road test?

Thanks

I've known operators that got a second or third chance to do the DMV road test but, yes if you fail a certain number of road tests then they'll terminate you. I don't know about them using the 1 in 3 rule on you for future careers. 

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