MHV9218 Posted October 21, 2011 Share #76 Posted October 21, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted December 2, 2011 Share #77 Posted December 2, 2011 M23 SBS- Eastbound: 12th Av/22nd St 24th St/12th-11th Avs 23rd St/11th Av 23rd St/10th-9th Avs 23rd St/8th Av 23rd St/7th-6th Avs 23rd St/5th Av 23rd St/Madison-Park Avs 23rd St/Lex-3rd Avs 23rd St/2nd Av 23rd St/1st Av Avenue C/23rd St Avenue C/20th St Westbound Avenue C/20th St 20th St/20th St Oval 20th St/1st Av 23rd St/1st-2nd Avs 23rd St/3rd-Lex Avs 23rd St/Park-Madison Avs 23rd St/5th Av 23rd St/6th-7th Avs 23rd St/8th Av 23rd St/9th-10th Avs 23rd St/11th Av 24th St/11th-12th Avs- no machine 12th Av/22nd St M42 +Select Bus Service 12th Av/42nd St 42nd St/12th Av 42nd St/11th Av 42nd St/10th Av 42nd St/9th Av 42nd St/8th-7th Avs 42nd St/6th Av 42nd St/5th-Madison Avs 42nd St/Park-Lexington Avs 42nd St/3rd Av 42nd St/2nd Av 42nd St/1st Av Westbound: 41st St/1st Av 42nd St/1st Av 42nd St/2nd-3rd Avs 42nd St/Lexington Av 42nd St/Park-Madison Avs 42nd St/5th Av 42nd St/6th Av 42nd St/7th-8th Avs 42nd St/9th Av 42nd St/10th Av 42nd St/11th Av 42nd St/12th Av 12th Av/43rd St M57 +Select Bus Service+ Eastbound: 72nd St/Broadway West End Av/72nd St West End Av/69th St West End Av/66th St West End Av/63rd St West End Av/60th-59th Sts 57th St/11th Av 57th St/10th-9th Avs 57th St/8th-7th Avs 57th St/6th Av 57th St/5th-Madison Avs 57th St/Lexington-3rd avs 57th St/2nd Av 1st Av/57th St 1st Av/60th St 60th St/York Av Westbound: York Av/60th-59th Sts 55th St/Sutton Place 55th St/1st Av 57th St/1st A 57th St/2nd Av 57th St/3rd-Lexington Avs 57th St/Madison-5th Avs 57th St/6th Av 57th St/7th-8th Avs 57th St/9th-10th Avs 11th Av/57th St West End Av/59th-60th Sts West End Av/63rd St West End Av/66th St West End Av/69th St 72nd St/West End Av 72nd St/Broadway M86 have hard boarding at subway interchange. Westbound: York Av/92nd-91st Sts York Av/88th St York Av/86th St 86th St/1st Av 86th St/2nd Av 86th St/3rd Av 86th St/Lexington Av 86th St/Madison Av 86th St/5th Av 86th St Transverse Rd/NYPD Precint 86th St/Central Park West 86th St/Columbus-Amsterdam Avs 86th St/Broadway West End Av/87th-86th Sts Eastbound: 86th St/West End Av-Broadway 86th St/Amsterdam-Columbus Avs 86th St/Central Park West 86th St Transverse Rd/NYPD Precint 84th St/5th Av 86th St/Madison Av 86th St/Lexington-3rd Avs 86th St/2nd Av 86th St/1st Av York Av/86th St York Av/88th St 91st St/York Av 1st Av/91st St M96 also have hard time also. M96 SBS: Eastbound: 96th St/West End Av-Broadway 96th St/Amsterdam-Columbus Avs 96th St/Central Park West 96th St/5th Av 96th St/Madison Av 96th St/Lexington-3rd Avs 96th St/2nd Av 97th St/1st Av Westbound 97th St/1st-2nd Avs 96th St/2nd Av 96th St/3rd Av 96th St/Lexington Av 96th St/Madison Av 97th St/5th Av Central Park West/97th St 96th St/Columbus-Amsterdam Avs 96th St/Broadway 97th St/West End Av Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted December 2, 2011 Share #78 Posted December 2, 2011 I totally disagree of ANY +SBS+ bus lines on the following crosstown streets 14, 23, 57, 96. The purpose of having +SBS+ is to increase service levels on under-performing bus lines. M14 does pretty well. M23 IS VERY SLOW but doesn't warrant a SBS and forget 57th and 96th.. TRAFFIC HEADACHES.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriboroughBridge Posted December 2, 2011 Share #79 Posted December 2, 2011 That depends on which part of Main Street you are talking about. People will start going nuts if they lose the limited parking spaces they have over there. I think the stopped taking up parking spaces for SBS. Now they take away a lane from traffic. I think the (M23) should get it. That bus crawls down 23rd st and slows down all of the other express buses. If not that then give it priority signal and a bus lane and cut out all of the damn double parking along 23rd st. :mad: Yes, but what about the (M42)? remember when the guy on the bike "raced" the (M42) across 42 St & won? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted December 2, 2011 Share #80 Posted December 2, 2011 I think the stopped taking up parking spaces for SBS. Now they take away a lane from traffic. Not exactly. Both are still around. There's the curbside bus lane, at the curb (obviously), and the offset bus lane, one lane away from traffic. The Bx12 has curbside lanes, the M34 has curbside lanes but it's supposed to get offset lanes next year, the M15 has a mixture of both and the B44 is also supposed to have a mixture of both (but mainly offset) Curbside bus lanes aren't really going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'89 Liberty MCI Posted December 2, 2011 Share #81 Posted December 2, 2011 Based on some posts by Interested Rider in the "SBS on local bus routes" thread started by Triborough Bridge and based on what Allan Rosen (BrooklynBus) once said about sending the B49 straight up Ocean Av, beyond Foster Av. I would have it do this: Northbound: West on Oriental Blvd, north on West End Av, east on Emmons Av, north on Ocean Av, east on Empire Blvd, north on Washington Av, north on Classon Av, northeast on Rutledge Street, northwest on Bedford Avenue, to the last stop at Bedford Av-North 7th St. Then the bus goes southeast on North 7th St to make the return trip southbound. Then: Southbound: Southwest on Driggs Av, west on Division Av, south on Wythe Av, south on Franklin Av, west on Empire Blvd, south on Ocean Av, west on Emmons Av, south on West End Av, east on Oriental Blvd, to the last stop at MacKenzie St (KCC). Bus stops are listed below. A bus stop is followed by a slash, which is followed by at least one of the trip generators at that stop. Northbound stops: Oriental Blvd-MacKenzie St / KCC Oriental Blvd-Hastings St / School West End Av-Oriental Blvd / B1 Emmons Av-West End Av / B4 Ocean Av-Emmons Av / businesses Ocean Av-Av Z / B4, B36 Ocean Av-Av U / B3 Ocean Av-Kings Hy / B7, B82 Ocean Av-Av J / B6, B11, Brooklyn College a few blocks up Ocean Av-Foster Av / B8 Ocean Av-Church Av / B35 Ocean Av-Parkside Av / B12, Empire Blvd-Flatbush Av / B16, B41, B43, ( Classon Av-Eastern Pky / B45 at St. John's Pl, and Brooklyn Museum of Art at Washington Av, at Franklin Av Classon Av-Fulton St / B25, B48, at Franklin Av Classon Av-LaFayette Av / B38, , Pratt Institute Classon Av-Flushing Av / B57, B62 Bedford Av-Hewes St / B44 SBS Bedford Av-Taylor St / B44 SBS Bedford Av-Broadway / businesses, small museum Bedford Av-Grand St / Q59, businesses Bedford Av-North 7th St / Southbound: Driggs Av-North 7th St Driggs Av-Grand St Driggs Av-Broadway Wythe Av-Clymer St Wythe Av-Williamsburg St East Franklin Av-Flushing Av Franklin Av-LaFayette Av Franklin Av-Fulton St Franklin Av-St. John's Pl Empire Blvd-Washington Av Ocean Av-Parkside Av Ocean Av-Church Av Ocean Av-Foster Av Ocean Av-Av J Ocean Av-Kings Hy Ocean Av-Av U Ocean Av-Av Z Emmons Av-Ocean Av West End Av-Emmons Av Oriental Blvd-West End Av Oriental Blvd-Hastings St Oriental Blvd-MacKenzie St 22 stops altogether. I am not sure what should be done with the B49 local. Please look at google maps as needed. Sorry about the lack of a drawing, but I did not have the time to make one. I may make one when I have the time and if this thread is still alive at that point. My apologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted December 2, 2011 Share #82 Posted December 2, 2011 I like this idea for a (B49) SBS with the stops that you designated. However, I don't think the Local buses should be changed at all. The (B49) as far as I know only has a limited stop variation only in the morning rush going toward Manhattan Beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted December 2, 2011 Share #83 Posted December 2, 2011 You're using SBS to justify an extension of the B49 to williamsburg & a revival of the portion of the B48 that was cut ? Your rendition of what a "B49 SBS" should do, is exactly what I talk about when I make reference of a "super route".... Sorry, don't agree with this idea at all..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted December 2, 2011 Share #84 Posted December 2, 2011 You're using SBS to justify an extension of the B49 to williamsburg & a revival of the portion of the B48 that was cut ? Your rendition of what a "B49 SBS" should do, is exactly what I talk about when I make reference of a "super route".... Sorry, don't agree with this idea at all..... I have to agree with B35 on this one. You will have the 44 SBS right next to it as well. The bus doesn't need to go to Williamsburg either. Not only that, but the ridership doesn't warrant an SBS before about 10 other routes anyway. So I say no to a 49 SBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interested Rider Posted December 2, 2011 Share #85 Posted December 2, 2011 The problem with the B/44 Select Bus is Nostrand Avenue is not wide (as compared with Ocean Avenue) south of Farragut Road as it is two way with one lane for traffic and one for parking. There are four major points of trouble Glenwood Road to Flatbush Avenue, just south of the junction, just north of Avenue L and between Avenues M & N. it will not work if these four problems are not resolved before it is implemented. I have bought this to the TA & NYCDOT attention both at the meetings and in writing as they are planning to place 60' buses on both the B/44 local and select bus routes. This is why I suggested that Ocean Avenue be an alternative south of the junction as Ocean Avenue is three lanes in each direction at that point as compared with Nostrand Avenue. When I appeared at one of these meetings, I told them that it will help the B/49 by operating on Rogers Avenue and that B/49 service must be retained. As far as the extension to Manhattan (34th Street & 1st Avenue), I think the best reason could be seen in the New York Daily News today where a merchant was commenting on how much business was lost last weekend as the L train was not running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted December 3, 2011 Share #86 Posted December 3, 2011 At 34th St/7th Av, I think tour bus should moved it's eastbound bus stop across 7th Av. I remember Staten Island-bound X23 were block at 8th Av due to Bolt Bus Drop/Pickup, and M34 had to box it the X23 that was picking up passenger. On first weekday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted December 3, 2011 Share #87 Posted December 3, 2011 The problem with the B/44 Select Bus is Nostrand Avenue is not wide (as compared with Ocean Avenue) south of Farragut Road as it is two way with one lane for traffic and one for parking. There are four major points of trouble Glenwood Road to Flatbush Avenue, just south of the junction, just north of Avenue L and between Avenues M & N. it will not work if these four problems are not resolved before it is implemented.I have bought this to the TA & NYCDOT attention both at the meetings and in writing as they are planning to place 60' buses on both the B/44 local and select bus routes. This is why I suggested that Ocean Avenue be an alternative south of the junction as Ocean Avenue is three lanes in each direction at that point as compared with Nostrand Avenue. When I appeared at one of these meetings, I told them that it will help the B/49 by operating on Rogers Avenue and that B/49 service must be retained. As far as the extension to Manhattan (34th Street & 1st Avenue), I think the best reason could be seen in the New York Daily News today where a merchant was commenting on how much business was lost last weekend as the L train was not running. But if you move it to Ocean Avenue, it's not serving the people it's supposed to. Remember that southern Nostrand Avenue is a two-fare zone: The people are dependant on taking a bus to reach the subway (even if they aren't actually paying 2 fares), and +SBS+ is suppoed to shorten the time they spend reaching the subway. By contrast, Ocean Avenue is right by the subway. I'm saying no to this as well. As far as 34th Street/1st Avenue, I still don't see how the B44 or B49 would in any way, shape or form parallel the , not to mention that, as I said before, it would make the new route too unreliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtNovaBusRTS9369 Posted December 3, 2011 Share #88 Posted December 3, 2011 This should be the spot to mention this. If I said it before I'll say it again. The needs to implement +SBS on the (Q46). And maybe just maybe the (Q43). The (Q46) 90% of the time is packed during rush hours. And the buses as they are inconsistely bunches up so it'd need to be eased up on congestion with faster boarding & even the use of artic buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acela Express Posted December 3, 2011 Share #89 Posted December 3, 2011 Not a fan of making the B49SBS, as I would think imposing rush-hour LTD service would be the first step to rendering "OK" service on that line; that, and additional SLDs along the route -- they're only located at Ocean Ave & Avenue U, the Loop, and sometimes at E. 16th-Sheepshead Bay Station stop. No SBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted January 16, 2012 Share #90 Posted January 16, 2012 Looks like the Bx41/Bx55 SBS question has been answered: Now of course plans can always change, but it figures the wouldn't want to invest in the dying Bx55. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheTransitMan Posted January 16, 2012 Share #91 Posted January 16, 2012 I think the stopped taking up parking spaces for SBS. Now they take away a lane from traffic. Yes, but what about the (M42)? remember when the guy on the bike "raced" the (M42) across 42 St & won? That whole little event was an isolated incident, it does not reflect on how a line actually runs. The M42 is not the "slug" that people make it out to be. It only moves slowly during certain times of the day. The M23 is and always will be a slower line then the M42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acela Express Posted January 16, 2012 Share #92 Posted January 16, 2012 Not sure how long this has been up, but sure happy DOT is looking into it: Bus Rapid Transit - Utica Avenue Bus Priority and Safety Improvement Study Their studies should show, around Church Ave & Utica Ave area, dozens of cars are constantly double parking, which narrows down traffic to literally one lane per direction which slows everything up. Not sure why ticket agents aren't enforcing the regulations much over there. Now between Empire Blvd. and St. Johns Place, the only action I can think of, is creating a transit mall between Carroll St. and St. Johns, sorta of how they have it now Downtown Brooklyn on Fulton Street (Fulton Mall), where traffic is restricted to buses only. Semi-SBS, then? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 16, 2012 Share #93 Posted January 16, 2012 Not sure how long this has been up, but sure happy DOT is looking into it: Bus Rapid Transit - Utica Avenue Bus Priority and Safety Improvement Study Their studies should show, around Church Ave & Utica Ave area, dozens of cars are constantly double parking, which narrows down traffic to literally one lane per direction which slows everything up. Not sure why ticket agents aren't enforcing the regulations much over there. Now between Empire Blvd. and St. Johns Place, the only action I can think of, is creating a transit mall between Carroll St. and St. Johns, sorta of how they have it now Downtown Brooklyn on Fulton Street (Fulton Mall), where traffic is restricted to buses only. Semi-SBS, then? lol Looks like this is for Phase 2 for +SBS+ I believe Flatbush Avenue is also part of the Phase 2 project with the DOT.. (I may be wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysterious2train Posted January 16, 2012 Share #94 Posted January 16, 2012 From June 2010: See here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted January 16, 2012 Share #95 Posted January 16, 2012 Wow, are they seriously considering putting SBS on an Upper East Side/Upper West Side crosstown bus? That would never work, and there would be so much public outcry if they even suggested adding a bus only lane. The whole area is residential, so there's always people double parking to load/unload, car services waiting for people, and people hailing cabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheTransitMan Posted January 16, 2012 Share #96 Posted January 16, 2012 Wow, are they seriously considering putting SBS on an Upper East Side/Upper West Side crosstown bus? That would never work, and there would be so much public outcry if they even suggested adding a bus only lane. The whole area is residential, so there's always people double parking to load/unload, car services waiting for people, and people hailing cabs. Agreed, this is a just waste of money. Hopefully this never goes through. This is idea is worse then putting arctics on M96 or M66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isaacsorden Posted January 17, 2012 Share #97 Posted January 17, 2012 Thread only for SBS discussions.Like do think its faster? What lines do you think should have SBS? And if SBS is reliable.:cool: The b15,bx15,m5,q43,q5,s62,bx5, and the s89. These busesttui should sbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted January 17, 2012 Share #98 Posted January 17, 2012 The b15,bx15,m5,q43,q5,s62,bx5, and the s89. These busesttui should sbs. SBS on (M5) might not work because there's no way bus could pass at Riverside Drive without going around to incoming lane to bypass local M5 on oncoming lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 17, 2012 Share #99 Posted January 17, 2012 The b15,bx15,m5,q43,q5,s62,bx5, and the s89. These busesttui should sbs. SBS will NOT work on the B15.. The B15 route has too many turns, and not streamlined enough to warrant SBS. New Lots/Hegeman (Congestion), Ralph Ave (Congestion), and Lewis Ave (Congestion). Limited to the AIRPORT, I would say YES, and local to Forbell Street, than late night everything to be local. But it has been discussed on the board that even a limited may not warrant service. Hillside and Merrick Ltds do very well but to warrant +SBS+ coverage, I dunno. Haven't been in queens in a while to study that. Queens people may have a better knowledge better than me on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtNovaBusRTS9369 Posted January 17, 2012 Share #100 Posted January 17, 2012 SBS will NOT work on the B15..The B15 route has too many turns, and not streamlined enough to warrant SBS. New Lots/Hegeman (Congestion), Ralph Ave (Congestion), and Lewis Ave (Congestion). Limited to the AIRPORT, I would say YES, and local to Forbell Street, than late night everything to be local. But it has been discussed on the board that even a limited may not warrant service. Hillside and Merrick Ltds do very well but to warrant +SBS+ coverage, I dunno. Haven't been in queens in a while to study that. Queens people may have a better knowledge better than me on this one. I was told that Merrick Blvd folks didn't want SBS because of the loss of parking. As for Hillside I dunno but in the near future (Hopefully) it may get +SBS via the (Q43). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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