LRG Posted June 2, 2011 Share #126 Posted June 2, 2011 trains start operating local in Brooklyn at 10:00 on weekdays. On weekends, the local service starts later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted June 2, 2011 Share #127 Posted June 2, 2011 trains start operating local in Brooklyn at 10:00 on weekdays. On weekends, the local service starts later. Which is fine, its only to 36st and adds 2 mins to the trip. At that time the continues express on 4th av for one or two more intervals (to 36th only, there are layups between 36 and 59 at the time) before going local itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted June 2, 2011 Share #128 Posted June 2, 2011 Not to netpick but barring a "GO" the is always 'express' along both Central Park West and 6th Ave. You mean the ending at 11pm right?The as i stated earlier should run at least until 1230am for people coming 'home' from the 2nd shift and also for events at MSG i.e Knick/Ranger games and concerts. Lol it's fine. I should have clarified that I meant in Brooklyn for the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted June 5, 2011 Share #129 Posted June 5, 2011 Not to netpick but barring a "GO" the is always 'express' along both Central Park West and 6th Ave. You mean the ending at 11pm right?The as i stated earlier should run at least until 1230am for people coming 'home' from the 2nd shift and also for events at MSG i.e Knick/Ranger games and concerts. I agree on the as well, since that also would allow the to remain express in Manhattan and Brooklyn (and as noted, I would actually have the 24/7, during overnights replacing the to Lefferts since that would in turn eliminate the need for the overnight on the Lefferts branch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted June 5, 2011 Share #130 Posted June 5, 2011 I'm curious, is there a real demand for express service along Eighth Avenue or Fulton Street in the middle of the night to warrant 24/7 line service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted June 5, 2011 Share #131 Posted June 5, 2011 I'm curious, is there a real demand for express service along Eighth Avenue or Fulton Street in the middle of the night to warrant 24/7 line service? If it wasn't, then the wouldn't have proposed it before the crisis hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted June 5, 2011 Share #132 Posted June 5, 2011 I dont know if the would have remained express in brooklyn but 10 minute overnite headway would be nice in that sector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted June 5, 2011 Share #133 Posted June 5, 2011 If it wasn't, then the wouldn't have proposed it before the crisis hit. I wasn't aware it was ever proposed. I remember them talking about running the full route all times, but I didn't see anything on the (not that it couldn't have been mentioned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted June 5, 2011 Author Share #134 Posted June 5, 2011 I wasn't aware it was ever proposed. I remember them talking about running the full route all times, but I didn't see anything on the (not that it couldn't have been mentioned). The running the full route between Forest Hills and Bay Ridge was actually proposed and about to be approved when the fiscal crisis hit in early 2008. The Other subway proposal of expanded service included running the to/from Chambers St 7 days a week including weekends as well. Never offically any expansion of late evening service though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted June 6, 2011 Share #135 Posted June 6, 2011 Those tracks are used to store & trains from 57 St-7 Av i thought The trains use the Lower Level City Hall Station, and the express track between 42 St and 57 St to store trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted June 6, 2011 Share #136 Posted June 6, 2011 The only big issue IMO is that the should stop at Dekalb on weekends so that Brighton Line could have a direct transfer to 6th Ave/Central Park west stations." Thank You! finally, someone agrees! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted June 7, 2011 Share #137 Posted June 7, 2011 Never offically any expansion of late evening service though. They did propose it, but it was rejected 'cause of the full route-proposal. But then the crisis came and neither of the two happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Posted June 8, 2011 Share #138 Posted June 8, 2011 i would like to see late night between 241st Street and 180th Street to Flatbush to utica between new lots and utica local in manhattan to bowling green local in manhattan to south ferry to south ferry to forest hills to bay ridge providing through service to 36th street on the lines late night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted June 8, 2011 Share #139 Posted June 8, 2011 i would like to see late night between 241st Street and 180th Street to Flatbush to utica between new lots and utica local in manhattan to bowling green local in manhattan to south ferry to south ferry to forest hills to bay ridge providing through service to 36th street on the lines late night. U just screwed up everything. Why would the be diverted to the 4 Ave line to replace both the ? Also, what will run via the Brighton Line if the ends up being diverted to the 4 Ave line? Why would there be a running between Utica Av and New Lots? The already does that at night. It makes nno sense to terminate the at Utica, in which passengers need to make an additional transfer just to reach new lots ave? That doesn't make any sense at all. Its either the during the day, or the at night. Everything else I somewhat agree with, but why the to Forest Hills? The are fine at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Posted June 8, 2011 Share #140 Posted June 8, 2011 U just screwed up everything.Why would the be diverted to the 4 Ave line to replaace both the ? Also, what will run via the Brighton Line if the ends up being diverted to the 4 Ave line? Why would there be a. running between Utica Av and New Lots? The already does that at night. It makes nno sense to terminate the at Utica, where passengers need to make an additional transfer just to reach new lots ave? That doesn't make any sense at all. Its either the during the day, or the at night. Everything else I somewhat agree with, but why the to Forest Hills? The are fine at night. when you put it that way i see what you mean. but i didnt say the bing rerouted to 4th avenue. just make the go down brighton terminate at 36th street and go back out the sea beach to brighton. and the go up and down 4th avenue. and the to forest hills to replace the but i think your right about the and being alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trainmaster5 Posted June 8, 2011 Share #141 Posted June 8, 2011 i would like to see late night between 241st Street and 180th Street to Flatbush to utica between new lots and utica local in manhattan to bowling green local in manhattan to south ferry to south ferry to forest hills to bay ridge providing through service to 36th street on the lines late night. I don't see any IRT 7th Ave service between Chambers St and Nevins St. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted June 8, 2011 Share #142 Posted June 8, 2011 when you put it that way i see what you mean. but i didnt say the bing rerouted to 4th avenue. just make the go down brighton terminate at 36th street and go back out the sea beach to brighton. and the go up and down 4th avenue. and the to forest hills to replace the but i think your right about the and being alright. No papa. The would be a super long line if u extended it from Coney Island to 36 St via Sea Beach/West End/Brighton. The takes over when the doesn't run. It'll cause too much confusion. The has its own stops to make between DeKalb Av and Coney Island. The has its own stops to make at night between DeKalb Av and Coney island. It'll take forever for the to go via Brighton to Coney Island, then extended to the Sea Beach (or West End in that matter) to 36 St. The shuttle is fine at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Posted June 8, 2011 Share #143 Posted June 8, 2011 I don't see any IRT 7th Ave service between Chambers St and Nevins St. Why? :eek: O_o oh i did not realize that change i though of would severe the IRT 7th between Borough Hall and chambers. i mean the can switch onto the local tracks after borough hall right and continue on to Flatbush? oh then my idea would just screw up the late night service in ways unimaginable. sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted June 8, 2011 Share #144 Posted June 8, 2011 i would like to see late night between 241st Street and 180th Street to Flatbush to utica between new lots and utica local in manhattan to bowling green local in manhattan to south ferry to south ferry to forest hills to bay ridge providing through service to 36th street on the lines late night. Umm dude?? No Sea Beach service??? What about the Brighton line??? I think it would be too much trouble for commuters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Posted June 8, 2011 Share #145 Posted June 8, 2011 Umm dude?? No Sea Beach service??? What about the Brighton line??? I think it would be too much trouble for commuters. nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted June 8, 2011 Share #146 Posted June 8, 2011 nvm U need to have at least 1 7 Av line and 1 Lex Av line in Brooklyn. That's why the operate in Brooklyn at Night. It doesn't make no sense to have 2 Lexington Av lines at night and no 7 Av service... Unless there's a G.O. Going on.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted June 8, 2011 Share #147 Posted June 8, 2011 nvm It's amazing what you could avoid by simply thinking about a response before you post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted June 8, 2011 Share #148 Posted June 8, 2011 i would like to see late night between 241st Street and 180th Street to Flatbush As noted elsewhere, this won't work because you need one 7th Avenue and one Lexington Avenue line operating at all times. to utica For this to work, you'd need to make the a full-time route to New Lots. Otherwise, I keep it as it is. between new lots and utica That would anger a lot of people who need to get to Utica just to get the . Would never work. local in manhattan to bowling green This I can see being done, especially if you keep the as is during overnights. local in manhattan As long as you don't have the also running in Manhattan, I agree. to south ferry to south ferry I keep the to South Ferry and extend the to either Penn Station or 14th Street, unless the were to become a 24/7 line to New Lots. to forest hills to bay ridge providing through service to 36th street on the lines late night. I get why you want to do this (have the run as a through train on a loop in both directions through Brighton and Sea Beach with the option of a one-seat ride on either portion straight through, with 71st-Continental being the sole terminal while the replaces the along 4th Avenue in Brooklyn during overnights, running the old route), but it might be confusing to a lot of people, especially those used to having the in Bay Ridge and along Queens Plaza (where the replaces the in overnights). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Posted June 8, 2011 Share #149 Posted June 8, 2011 Hey all. I take the subway between the hours of midnight and 6am about 3-5 times a week, I honestly don't think much express service should be added. I mean, it might sound cool on paper, but I don't think it'd be a good idea overall. Think about it. Most bars, lounges, clubs, and late night entertainment venues are not located around express stops. Local stations (especially those in Hell's Kitchen, Murray Hill, Chelsea, and the Village) are often filled with not-so-sober passengers wanting a one-seat ride back to their apartments. I understand the argument of extending, say, train service as a local to South Ferry and keeping the as an express. The problem with that lies with the people who are trying to get home to Brooklyn. Imagine waiting at Houston Street at 3:43am for any local train to come in 90˚F, then waiting up to 20 minutes at Chambers Street for the to arrive. ...Now imagine doing that drunk. My proposal: • Have the run as a local between 57th and Canal (via the Bridge). 49th, 23rd, and 8th St stations always have their fair share of angry riders at night when they see their fly by. Other thoughts: • I'm cool with the running 24/7 so long as the remains a local at night. The is one of the busiest lines in the system because of the many late night neighborhoods through which it travels. • Running the as an express sounds like a good idea, so long as the runs its entire route at night. Otherwise, all hell would break loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted June 8, 2011 Share #150 Posted June 8, 2011 The can't run local if the the runs 24/7. That's because it would jam the local tracks on the Broadway Line resulting in a decrease of subway service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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