Amtrak7 Posted May 26, 2011 Share #1 Posted May 26, 2011 No trains between Broadway Junction and 8 Av and free shuttle buses provide alternate service. Weekend, 11:30 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Jun 3 - 6 Additional service runs: 6 AM to midnight, from Metropolitan Av to 57 St (Sat) 6:45 AM to 12:50 AM (Sat to Sun) from 57 St to Metropolitan Av 8 AM to 11 PM, from Metropolitan Av to 57 St (Sun) 8:50 AM to 11:45 PM (Sun) from 57 St to Metropolitan Av • Transfer between shuttle buses and trains at Myrtle-Wyckoff Avs. • Transfer between shuttle buses and or trains at Broadway Junction. Shuttle Buses: 1. Between Marcy Av and Lorimer St stopping at Bedford Av. 2. Between Lorimer St and Myrtle-Wyckoff Avs (making all station stops) 3. Between Myrtle-Wyckoff Avs and Broadway Junction (making all station stops) M14 operates between 8 Av and Essex St, Manhattan. What's with the "transfer at Myrtle-Wyckoff"? One long bus route will probably do the same economically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted May 26, 2011 Share #2 Posted May 26, 2011 Every time when doesn't run in Manhattan, Shuttle Buses also operates along portion of M14A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted May 26, 2011 Share #3 Posted May 26, 2011 What's with the "transfer at Myrtle-Wyckoff"? One long bus route will probably do the same economically. The idea is to get people off the buses at Myrtle-Wyckoff Avs and transfer to the for Manhattan-bound service. Plus, it allows the to run the shuttle buses at different intervals for each section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted May 28, 2011 Share #4 Posted May 28, 2011 that L shuttle is NOT a fun ride lol they'd proly be better off doing it this way, make them interconnect if need be (one doesn't leave till the other arrives); seeing how bad it was last time I rode it it would take long as hell to come if it were all one route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis1985 Posted May 28, 2011 Share #5 Posted May 28, 2011 thank god i dont live by the . if i did, and that wouldve been the only route near me, i wouldve been so screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted May 28, 2011 Share #6 Posted May 28, 2011 MTA Should of extended the bus between Manhattan and Brooklyn via Williamsburg Bridge. It sucks you need to use a bunch of routes just to get to/from Brooklyn if you live on the ! Also is the being rerouted because of the ending at 57? If so, I hope not.. MTA Should of sent the to Queens Plaza, relay north and then return via 53rd. Or just send to 71st for the hell of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted May 28, 2011 Share #7 Posted May 28, 2011 MTA Should of extended the bus between Manhattan and Brooklyn via Williamsburg Bridge. It sucks you need to use a bunch of routes just to get to/from Brooklyn if you live on the ! Also is the being rerouted because of the ending at 57? If so, I hope not.. MTA Should of sent the to Queens Plaza, relay north and then return via 53rd. Or just send to 71st for the hell of it. It would make more sense to just let the run its normal route while the goes at least to Queens Plaza if not the full weekday route to 71st-Continental, which would provide the least disruptive service, especially if the can use Queens Plaza to turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted May 28, 2011 Share #8 Posted May 28, 2011 Also is the being rerouted because of the ending at 57? If so, I hope not.. MTA Should of sent the to Queens Plaza, relay north and then return via 53rd. Or just send to 71st for the hell of it. It would make more sense to just let the run its normal route while the goes at least to Queens Plaza if not the full weekday route to 71st-Continental, which would provide the least disruptive service, especially if the can use Queens Plaza to turn. trains are running normally that weekend (at least that's what is was when I checked it a couple of days ago; as of this post, the planned service changes page isn't working correctly on the site). The has made this run at least three times since being rerouted up Sixth Avenue last June, and has not interfered with the in any of those occasions. Why should they extend the line when it's not needed. It costs more to send the to Queens Plaza, much more for Forest Hills-71 Av than it does for 57 St as you need more trains (and crews). Also, please remember that it's going to 57 St as an alternative to the . If there was a way to turn trains at 14 St/6 Av, the would terminate them there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted May 28, 2011 Share #9 Posted May 28, 2011 The going to/from 57th Street when the can't is a good move. This via 6th Avenue is working out great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted May 28, 2011 Share #10 Posted May 28, 2011 thank god i dont live by the . if i did, and that wouldve been the only route near me, i wouldve been so screwed. Er, not really, you could take the shuttle bus to/from the or take the (providing you live near the Myrtle Avenue Line) to and from Manhattan in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urbanfortitude Posted May 28, 2011 Share #11 Posted May 28, 2011 Matt to be fair he did say if it was the only route near him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 Lexington Ave Posted May 29, 2011 Share #12 Posted May 29, 2011 The planed service changes website is still down. Perhaps they haven't realized yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted May 29, 2011 Share #13 Posted May 29, 2011 trains are running normally that weekend (at least that's what is was when I checked it a couple of days ago; as of this post, the planned service changes page isn't working correctly on the site). The has made this run at least three times since being rerouted up Sixth Avenue last June, and has not interfered with the in any of those occasions. Why should they extend the line when it's not needed. It costs more to send the to Queens Plaza, much more for Forest Hills-71 Av than it does for 57 St as you need more trains (and crews). Also, please remember that it's going to 57 St as an alternative to the . If there was a way to turn trains at 14 St/6 Av, the would terminate them there. If money were an issue, I'd have the instead turn at West 4th and have the stop at 14th and 23rd on when this G.O. is necessary, since those looking for 6th/14th can then take the or the one stop while those looking for 8th Avenue service can take the , or there anyway. I doubt it would be too much of an issue with the joining the on the local track for 2-3 stops so the can use the crossover tracks in the express tunnel to terminate at West 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted May 29, 2011 Share #14 Posted May 29, 2011 If money were an issue, I'd have the instead turn at West 4th and have the stop at 14th and 23rd on when this G.O. is necessary, since those looking for 6th/14th can then take the or the one stop while those looking for 8th Avenue service can take the , or there anyway. I doubt it would be too much of an issue with the joining the on the local track for 2-3 stops so the can use the crossover tracks in the express tunnel to terminate at West 4th. Why? The is going to 57 St as a replacement for the . Why make it more difficult (and annoying) to have passengers wait for another train on top of the and the shuttle buses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted May 29, 2011 Share #15 Posted May 29, 2011 I rather have the run through the weekend for this GO to make up for the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted May 30, 2011 Share #16 Posted May 30, 2011 Well, I know what I'm NOT taking to work that day *rolls eyes*...hope they have the shuttle bus in Manhattan again If money were an issue, I'd have the instead turn at West 4th and have the stop at 14th and 23rd on when this G.O. is necessary, since those looking for 6th/14th can then take the or the one stop while those looking for 8th Avenue service can take the , or there anyway. I doubt it would be too much of an issue with the joining the on the local track for 2-3 stops so the can use the crossover tracks in the express tunnel to terminate at West 4th. You just don't get it kid, do you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted May 30, 2011 Share #17 Posted May 30, 2011 Why? The is going to 57 St as a replacement for the . Why make it more difficult (and annoying) to have passengers wait for another train on top of the and the shuttle buses? Wouldn't the bulk of those passengers be waiting for another train (the ) at 6th/14th anyway under normal circumstances? How many passengers are specifically going to 6th Avenue and 14th Street? If you want the 8th Avenue Subway (or 8th Avenue/14th Street), you still have to transfer to the (A)/©/(E) at West 4th anyway. Those who want the Lexington line going uptown have to regardless switch to the somewhere between Myrtle and Essex and take that to Canal Street for the (which obviously will change once the uptown transfer at Broadway-Lafayette opens), while those looking for 6th Avenue service could make an easy, same or cross-platform transfer to the or in that scenario and those who actually are looking for 7th Avenue or Broadway line service can do the same to 14th or 34th (as with the using West 4th as a terminal, the would stop at 14th and 23rd with the ). I seriously doubt there are many passengers in Brooklyn looking for the at 6th/42nd. My point is, if you are going to have the run up 6th Avenue in place of the , it should really go at least to Queens Plaza via its regular route if not the full regular route to 71st-Continental. That way, those actually looking for Queens Blvd can get to where they can make a transfer to the or for points beyond. Otherwise, West 4th is sufficient for most people if money is an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted May 30, 2011 Share #18 Posted May 30, 2011 What is wrong with transferring to the at Essex. I have transferred there before. Are you insisting that it's a pain the butt to transfer? That is wrong. People can use the Canarsie Line if the isn't running too to factor that in as a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted May 31, 2011 Share #19 Posted May 31, 2011 and once again, Wallyhorse comes up with some ideas which completely don't make sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted May 31, 2011 Share #20 Posted May 31, 2011 What is wrong with transferring to the at Essex. I have transferred there before. Are you insisting that it's a pain the butt to transfer? That is wrong. People can use the Canarsie Line if the isn't running too to factor that in as a fact. As said in the overnight thread, having the terminate at Essex on nights/weekends normally is a compromise even though I think West 4th is a better terminal because of the transfers involved. In this particular case, my first option would be to have the run its normal route to at least Queens Plaza if not the full route to 71-Continental if it's subbing for the since that also would help people along Queens Plaza who have complained about having only the on Queens Blvd. if you have the also go to 71-Continental. If money were an issue, then I would use West 4th as the terminal because you have more than enough transfers there for people looking for the 6th and 8th Avenue service, and I doubt there are that many coming from Brooklyn on the specifically looking for 6th/14th. In the actual scenario being used, if you need the Lexington Avenue Line for upper Manhattan, until the uptown transfer is complete you still would need to transfer anyway for the to 63rd/Lex to get to the (4)/(5)/(6) at 59th-60th/Lex via the OOS transfer OR the Broadway Line at 34th (not an easy transfer) and take that to Lexington Avenue anyway. That's also why I would have the go to at least Queens Plaza, since then those looking for uptown Lexington Avenue Service that normally would get it at 14th Street would be able to switch to the at 51st on that line from the 53rd/Lex Station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted May 31, 2011 Share #21 Posted May 31, 2011 As said in the overnight thread, having the terminate at Essex on nights/weekends normally is a compromise even though I think West 4th is a better terminal because of the transfers involved. In this particular case, my first option would be to have the run its normal route to at least Queens Plaza if not the full route to 71-Continental if it's subbing for the since that also would help people along Queens Plaza who have complained about having only the on Queens Blvd. if you have the also go to 71-Continental. If money were an issue, then I would use West 4th as the terminal because you have more than enough transfers there for people looking for the 6th and 8th Avenue service, and I doubt there are that many coming from Brooklyn on the specifically looking for 6th/14th. In the actual scenario being used, if you need the Lexington Avenue Line for upper Manhattan, until the uptown transfer is complete you still would need to transfer anyway for the to 63rd/Lex to get to the (4)/(5)/(6) at 59th-60th/Lex via the OOS transfer OR the Broadway Line at 34th (not an easy transfer) and take that to Lexington Avenue anyway. That's also why I would have the go to at least Queens Plaza, since then those looking for uptown Lexington Avenue Service that normally would get it at 14th Street would be able to switch to the at 51st on that line from the 53rd/Lex Station. And for the last time, its not gonna happen...let it go already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.J. Posted May 31, 2011 Share #22 Posted May 31, 2011 Hey Waluigi, leave the alone and let handle their own G.O., k thanks bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted May 31, 2011 Share #23 Posted May 31, 2011 If money were an issue, I'd have the instead turn at West 4th and have the stop at 14th and 23rd on when this G.O. is necessary, since those looking for 6th/14th can then take the or the one stop while those looking for 8th Avenue service can take the , or there anyway. I doubt it would be too much of an issue with the joining the on the local track for 2-3 stops so the can use the crossover tracks in the express tunnel to terminate at West 4th. Yeah, that means the and the would have to cross each other.... Please, these ideas make no sense. You'd just end up costing the MTA more money and anger more passengers. It's bad enough the (L)'s not even running to Manhattan, you want to anger the passengers more??? and once again, Wallyhorse comes up with some ideas which completely don't make sense... This is the same issues he had over on the "other board" and now he's bringing them up here. Guess old habits really die hard.... The going to/from 57th Street when the can't is a good move. This via 6th Avenue is working out great! Lol the went to 57th Street??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted May 31, 2011 Share #24 Posted May 31, 2011 Lol the went to 57th Street??? I must have gotten mixed up with my wording, I meant when the can't go between Broadway Junction, Brooklyn and 8th Avenue, Manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PATCOman Posted June 1, 2011 Share #25 Posted June 1, 2011 This is the same issues he had over on the "other board" and now he's bringing them up here. Guess old habits really die hard.... Heck, he was like this on a non-transit board also lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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