Amtrak7 Posted May 28, 2011 Share #1 Posted May 28, 2011 Inspired by the subway thread, I believe this concept of a thread would work better for buses. Buses in NYC are among the most overworked in the country, but which routes work the hardest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted May 28, 2011 Share #2 Posted May 28, 2011 I'm taking in consideration the ridership of certain bus routes, as well as road conditions (Bronx and SI have it pretty bad when it comes to this). I'm not so familiar with the Bronx and Queens but I'll see what I can come up with. Bronx: Bx12 +SBS (obvious reasons), Bx55, BxM7 Brooklyn: B6, B35, B41, B44, B46 Manhattan: M15 +SBS (again, obvious reasons), M2, M4, M5, M14, M16/34, M42 Queens: Q5/Q85, Q111/Q113, Q20A/B, Q44, Q50 Staten Island: S74 and S78 (longest bus routes in the city), S53, S93, S79, X1, X10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted May 28, 2011 Share #3 Posted May 28, 2011 I'm taking in consideration the ridership of certain bus routes, as well as road conditions (Bronx and SI have it pretty bad when it comes to this). I'm not so familiar with the Bronx and Queens but I'll see what I can come up with. Bronx: Bx12 +SBS (obvious reasons), Bx55, BxM7 Brooklyn: B6, B35, B41, B44, B46 Manhattan: M15 +SBS (again, obvious reasons), M2, M4, M5, M14, M16/34, M42 Queens: Q5/Q85, Q111/Q113, Q20A/B, Q44, Q50 Staten Island: S74 and S78 (longest bus routes in the city), S53, S93, S79, X1, X10 The S93 is a really short run and doesn't carry nearly as much as the S53 or S79. I would say the S48 has it worse even though all of Forest Avenue was just repaved about 3 years ago. You can also add the X17 to that list. It is cut earlier but it should run longer to give folks who live around Richmond Avenue more service later on. The X17 is the reason why the X10 isn't as crowded, but if you were to combine the X17 and X10 in terms of ridership folks would see that the X10 is just as viable for more service later into the night as the X1 is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtNovaBusRTS9369 Posted May 28, 2011 Share #4 Posted May 28, 2011 I'm not gonna list all the boroughs so I'll list overworked routes the best I can: Brooklyn: (B3), (B6), (B36), (B44), (B46). Queens: (Q5), (Q6) to some extent, (Q17), (Q20)A/B, (Q27), (Q30), (Q31), (Q43), (Q44), (Q46), (Q85). Bronx: (Bx4), (Bx12), (Bx15), (Bx19), (Bx55). Manhattan: (M1), (M2), (M4), (M15), (M16), (M34), (M42), (M66)/(M72)- sorta That's all I've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted May 28, 2011 Share #5 Posted May 28, 2011 The S93 is a really short run and doesn't carry nearly as much as the S53 or S79. I would say the S48 has it worse even though all of Forest Avenue was just repaved about 3 years ago. You can also add the X17 to that list. It is cut earlier but it should run longer to give folks who live around Richmond Avenue more service later on. The X17 is the reason why the X10 isn't as crowded, but if you were to combine the X17 and X10 in terms of ridership folks would see that the X10 is just as viable for more service later into the night as the X1 is. Makes sense. In addition, since school is technically out until August the S93 Limited is not going to be heavily used until then. Even though there will be summer classes in session the buses are basically going to be carrying air more than people for what it's worth. I was on 8023 on the S93 on Wednesday and because it was the second to last day of finals the bus had plenty of open seats, and it's gonna be that way until August, even when summer classes are in session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted May 28, 2011 Share #6 Posted May 28, 2011 Makes sense. In addition, since school is technically out until August the S93 Limited is not going to be heavily used until then. Even though there will be summer classes in session the buses are basically going to be carrying air more than people for what it's worth. I was on 8023 on the S93 on Wednesday and because it was the second to last day of finals the bus had plenty of open seats, and it's gonna be that way until August, even when summer classes are in session. Yeah, I've used the S93 several times when I wanted to get to the express bus quicker and that last bus has a handful on people on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Glen Posted May 28, 2011 Share #7 Posted May 28, 2011 Bronx Bx12 SBS Bx15 Bx19- lots of wheelchair passengers, makes frequent stops, overcrowded Manhattan M4 M5 M14-busy crosstown route M15 SBS-busiest route on Manhattan M23- " " M101 Brooklyn B38 B41 B44 B46-busiest route in city, runs through rough areas B62 Queens Q6 Q17 Q44 Q46 QM5-one of the longest express bus routes, runs 7 days a week Staten Island X1 X10 X17 X22- runs rush hour only, but the longest express bus route and usually filled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 28, 2011 Share #8 Posted May 28, 2011 overwork their buses.... hmm.... as far as locals, you would think the ones with the lowest riderships, or the shorter distanced routes (i.e, B42, B74, etc) since it's usually the same bus going back & forth all day (or a higher % of same bus going back/forth all day).... which was part of the reason why the older LIB's kept breaking down.... .....unless I'm misunderstanding the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted May 28, 2011 Share #9 Posted May 28, 2011 I would say the routes that have to travel long distances overwork their buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R188 7857 Posted May 28, 2011 Share #10 Posted May 28, 2011 (Q28) crowding is common since it is a Flushing route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 28, 2011 Share #11 Posted May 28, 2011 I'd stop to think the buses that are ran on the more longer distanced routes usually go back to the depot at a sooner rate.... that, or interlined w/ a shorter distanced route, which isn't too common (in NYC anyway).... crowding (in general) is either a testament of how well used a particular route is, or a testament of how infrequent a particular route is.... the lower the headways, the more buses on a route (which is obvious).... but that doesn't automatically mean those buses are overworked (unless you're factoring in, having to pull the (added) weight of the bus when they get crowded)... but buses are built for carrying the crowds that they do..... ....or else, we could simply sit up here & list all the higher ridershipped routes w/ low headways in this thread... say they're overworked b/c of it, and be done with it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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