Roadcruiser1 Posted June 19, 2011 Share #76 Posted June 19, 2011 59th Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJC Posted June 19, 2011 Share #77 Posted June 19, 2011 FYI, this is supposed to be a fantasy thread. IMO,we have enough of thoses thread along with the fantasy maps topic Where would the , or branch, terminate? while we're at it,let's send the L to NJ....really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 19, 2011 Share #78 Posted June 19, 2011 Where would the , or branch, terminate? Please don't encourage him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Subway Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share #79 Posted June 20, 2011 while we're at it,let's send the L to NJ....really. Why? The would be way too long. Please don't encourage him Who says that he needs to be discouraged? If he has ideas, let him speak them. No one says you have to like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted June 20, 2011 Share #80 Posted June 20, 2011 Why? The would be way too long. Who says that he needs to be discouraged? If he has ideas, let him speak them. No one says you have to like them. You're missing the point; such proposals are beyond unrealistic. Plus, BJC was kidding when he posted his comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #81 Posted June 20, 2011 Not really I said I would use the LIRR Bay Ridge Branch which can support 4 tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted June 20, 2011 Share #82 Posted June 20, 2011 But would there be such demand for an extension? Would funding be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #83 Posted June 20, 2011 There is. It would create a crosstown Brooklyn line, and help take pressure off bus lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 20, 2011 Share #84 Posted June 20, 2011 But would there be such demand for an extension? Would funding be available? There is. It would create a crosstown Brooklyn line, and help take pressure off bus lines. We went through this idea already in another thread That ROW branches off the at about Livonia Av. As I said before, what will serve New Lots Av, E. 105 St, & Rockaway Pky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #85 Posted June 20, 2011 I'd rather see Light Rail on the LIRR Bay Ridge Branch than the train. What would you do with E105th Street and Rocaway Parkway stations? That alone shoots down the train idea, Light rail is the way to go! Plus they probably could use that track that's already there and just add another one, yes, freights run on the Branch but the Riverline also shares tracks with Freight trains, the freights run at night. I would imagine it would be easier to get the FRA waiver for a LRV rather than the R143/160s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #86 Posted June 20, 2011 As I explained a long time ago the Canarsie-Rockaway Parkway station would be relocated underground and there would be a two track tunnel which would run down Glenwood Road. At the section where East 48th Street, and Glenwood Road would intersect would be the portal to the two track tunnel. This tunnel would be half a mile or 1 kilometer long, and the rest of ROW for the would be the former Bay Ridge Branch's ROW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4P3607 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #87 Posted June 20, 2011 They Should Make A That Runs Between Elder Avenue On The To Simpson Street On The It Would Provide An Early Transfer For SouthBound Commuters That Are On The And Need To Take The Or . It Would Save Alot Of Time On Alot Of Commuters And Would Be Very Cheap To Build. I Mean It Would Be A 6,000 Ft 2 Track Line Between 2 Major Trunk Lines. The only problem with that is that there is a river between the 2 stations, so the elevated track would have to be the same or higher than the Smith-9 Streets station in Brooklyn. It would still be a good idea, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 20, 2011 Share #88 Posted June 20, 2011 As I explained a long time ago the Canarsie-Rockaway Parkway station would be relocated underground and there would be a two track tunnel which would run down Glenwood Road. At the section where East 48th Street, and Glenwood Road would intersect would be the portal to the two track tunnel. This tunnel would be half a mile or 1 kilometer long, and the rest of ROW for the would be the former Bay Ridge Branch's ROW. *sigh* and once again, I have these 3 rebuttals... 1. Why waste millions of dollars to relocate 2 stations underground so a line can be rerouted from a place its been going perfectly fine at for decades? 2. If you relocate Rockaway Pkwy underground, then what would happen to the free transfer to the B42 (and don't say that would be relocated underground as well, cuz that would cost even more) 3. Just cuz its there, doesn't mean it has to be used. The B6 & B82 (both limiteds at that) are doing (mostly) fine on their own. Plus you have the B103 LTD not too far away so it makes your extension pointless. There would simply bee too much coverage in an area that's already covered Give up on the idea, its been shot down enough times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #89 Posted June 20, 2011 Not really. The B42 would get a surface platform to stop on, and there would be a transfer between the Canarsie station and the bus station to allow a free transfer to continue, and I didn't mention just those bus lines whom you pointed. It would relieve all the bus lines that basically crosses from the west side of Brooklyn to the east side which seems to be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #90 Posted June 20, 2011 I don't think you would see light rail anywhere except on Staten Island due to the fact we want to make it compatible with the NYC Subway system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Subway Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share #91 Posted June 20, 2011 I don't think you would see light rail anywhere except on Staten Island due to the fact we want to make it compatible with the NYC Subway system. And there lies the problem with light rail in NYC. The subway is so integral that transfers are needed for outlying systems, be it ferry, bus, or a proposed light rail. Even if Area X might want or need additional service (cough cough 2nd ave cough), the subway is always the first choice for a new line or extention. Even if Area X cannot afford or put in a subway line, everyone wants subways here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 20, 2011 Share #92 Posted June 20, 2011 Not really. The B42 would get a surface platform to stop on, and there would be a transfer between the Canarsie station and the bus station to allow a free transfer to continue, and I didn't mention just those bus lines whom you pointed. It would relieve all the bus lines that basically crosses from the west side of Brooklyn to the east side which seems to be a good thing. But you said it would travel down Glenwood Rd. The B6 & B82 are already up there. Then you said it would go onto the Bay Ridge ROW at about E 48 St. There's adequate bus serevice there Like I said before, you're adding useless service to an area that doesn't need it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #93 Posted June 20, 2011 Not really. The idea is that people would ride the South Brooklyn lines to the extension which is a crosstown Brooklyn Line, and it would help take the load off of bus lines that basically cross Brooklyn not just the lines you pointed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 20, 2011 Share #94 Posted June 20, 2011 Not really. The idea is that people would ride the South Brooklyn lines to the extension which is a crosstown Brooklyn Line, and it would help take the load off of bus lines that basically cross Brooklyn not just the lines you pointed out. Ok, so what about the crosstown buses that run nowhere the extension? (ie: B35, B3, etc...) How will this extension help them? If you look at it, they would have to take the then transfer to a north-south bus (which is already packed as it is) just to get where they're going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #95 Posted June 20, 2011 That's why there are lines like the Brighton Line, the Culver Line, the West End Line, and etc. They would be feeder lines to the crosstown Brooklyn Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 21, 2011 Share #96 Posted June 21, 2011 That's why there are lines like the Brighton Line, the Culver Line, the West End Line, and etc. They would be feeder lines to the crosstown Brooklyn Line. That's what they do now...take a north-south bus (or train) to 1 of the crosstown buses, and they're doing perfectly fine Screw it, I'm done replying to this, it seems like you don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted June 22, 2011 Share #97 Posted June 22, 2011 No I don't have a problem with the split (A)s. Both the Lefferts branch and the Rockaways branch are basically dead areas of the line and the relatively low number of riders on either branch easily justifies the split service as well as the limited number of trains per branch. According to last year's ridership stats, besides Far Rockaway and Beach 60 St, none of the Rockaways stations got over half a million riders, some not even close, whereas every station on the Astoria line except 39 Av received well over a million swipes. That's going to change on the Rockaway branch of the once the new casino opens at Aqueduct early this fall. At that point, and depending on how many casino patrons use the , they may have to consider having at least some trains going to Lefferts so some (A)'s that otherwise would go to Lefferts can be diverted to Aqueduct or Howard Beach to increase service for casino patrons on the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted June 24, 2011 Share #98 Posted June 24, 2011 That's what they do now...take a north-south bus (or train) to 1 of the crosstown buses, and they're doing perfectly fine Screw it, I'm done replying to this, it seems like you don't get it He's just feeding off that Triboro RX idea about cross-boro and interboro commerce, thats all. Lets take a stroll down memory lane... prior to the service cuts, the idea was for the to continue running with the as the Broadway local and express respectively, and the go up 2nd avenue full time. This was when there was no but a , and the and were both express in Manhattan. The was never intended to go away, it was just politics and money. This was a novel idea that will stand the test of time. About some silly split service...Don't ever play yourself trying to equate the to the . Apples and oranges. Nuff said. When that 96th extension opens, of all the UES stations from 59-Lex on up, those three stations will be in the top 5 in terms of ridership, bested only by 125th and 59th (when you include the BMT portion of that station). Going back on topic, starting next Sunday, those handful of late evening that terminate at Canal, relay then go back north will now terminate at Whitehall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EE Broadway Local Posted June 25, 2011 Share #99 Posted June 25, 2011 If they had kept it, I think the Culver Shuttle might've been a useful connection today between the at Ninth Avenue and the at Ditmas Avenue. Not sure if Fort Hamilton Parkway and Thirteenth Avenue would be heavily used stations today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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