Cleaner

[cmwals01]

Is there a difference between car cleaner and station cleaner? Can anyone out there give me the daily routine.

[Zman]

Car Cleaners work for the Division of Car Equipment and clean trains in stations and yards.

Station Cleaners work for the Stations Department and clean stations and facilities.

Each job has a different routine and the two jobs never intertwine. That is to say a Station Cleaner will never clean a subway car and a Car Cleaner will never clean a platform, etc.

[Will-Bx-718]

Is there a difference between car cleaner and station cleaner? Can anyone out there give me the daily routine.

 

Car Cleaners work for the Division of Car Equipment and clean trains in stations and yards.

Station Cleaners work for the Stations Department and clean stations and facilities.

Each job has a different routine and the two jobs never intertwine. That is to say a Station Cleaner will never clean a subway car and a Car Cleaner will never clean a platform, etc.

 

 

Well... this is all about to change very soon. In fact this is what's holding up the CTA pick. TA is about to merge both cleaning departments. But they can't figure out how they're going to work the seniority. So TA and the union are in talks of how to work this out fairly.

[cmwals01]

if they are going to merge departments then why the rush to hire cleaners and then what happens to us new hires

[Will-Bx-718]

if they are going to merge departments then why the rush to hire cleaners and then what happens to us new hires

 

It doesn't really matter about you new guys. You'll be at the bottom of the barrel no matter what, no pun intended lol. But one thing you'll learn about TA once you get in, is they never do anything that makes sense. They're just worried about the old timers losing seniority. I don't really think the merge is going to last permanently, they always changing their minds after sometime.

[Locomotion69]

I read this in the Chief a few days ago.

 

MTA Will Use Welfare Recipients to Clean Subways; TWU Objects.

 

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority plans to bring in up to 1,000 welfare recipients to clean subway stations, and Transport Workers Union Local 100 President John Samuelsen called it a “clear” attempt to avoid creating new union jobs.

 

An MTA spokesman countered that it is the only way the agency, which is struggling financially, can afford the staffing to keep the subways properly cleaned.

 

The right to bring in the welfare workers was written into the TWU contract 15 years ago, but Mr. Samuelsen said he would push to improve their working conditions during Local 100’s ongoing contract negotiations.

 

The Work Experience Program was designed to teach recipients of government assistance skills they could use in future jobs, and the MTA participated in it for nine years, from 1999 to 2008, before cutting the program at the request of then-Local 100 President Roger Toussaint. The agency estimates that the 1,000 new workers will do the work of 225 full-time unionized Station Cleaners.

[Will-Bx-718]

I read this in the Chief a few days ago.

 

MTA Will Use Welfare Recipients to Clean Subways; TWU Objects.

 

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority plans to bring in up to 1,000 welfare recipients to clean subway stations, and Transport Workers Union Local 100 President John Samuelsen called it a “clear” attempt to avoid creating new union jobs.

 

An MTA spokesman countered that it is the only way the agency, which is struggling financially, can afford the staffing to keep the subways properly cleaned.

 

The right to bring in the welfare workers was written into the TWU contract 15 years ago, but Mr. Samuelsen said he would push to improve their working conditions during Local 100’s ongoing contract negotiations.

 

The Work Experience Program was designed to teach recipients of government assistance skills they could use in future jobs, and the MTA participated in it for nine years, from 1999 to 2008, before cutting the program at the request of then-Local 100 President Roger Toussaint. The agency estimates that the 1,000 new workers will do the work of 225 full-time unionized Station Cleaners.

 

The only problem with the WEP workers is they can become full time fully paid cleaners after a certain time period. Which causes issues because they didn't take a civil service test and don't pay any union dues during their time as a WEP worker. And also none of them were laid off last year which they were supposed to according the NYS civil service law. All labor class and provisional workers must go first before any civil service employees get laid off. TA only laid off provisionals and didn't touch a single labor class worker. Also many of the WEP workers were theifs and also there were sexual harassment incidents between male cleaners and female WEP worker's which got the program shut down for three years. So this time around the city is taking a major role in over seeing the program along with the MTA.