+Young+ Posted July 12, 2011 Share #1 Posted July 12, 2011 Incase you still want to go on the Nostalgia Train Rides, and can't get a hold of Luz for whatever reason, well now you can buy the tickets online!! 7/23 trip to Coney Island: http://www.nycharities.org/events/EventLevels.aspx?ETID=3888 8/20 trip to the Rockaways: http://www.nycharities.org/events/EventLevels.aspx?ETID=3889 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traildriver Posted July 16, 2011 Share #2 Posted July 16, 2011 I notice the trip to Coney Island on that link mentions going to the beach or staying aboard for "additional rides". Any idea what those rides are--to other places, or just repeats of the original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted July 16, 2011 Share #3 Posted July 16, 2011 $50 for a ride to Coney/Rockaways, when you can pay $2.25 for the same thing on newer equipment? I don't get why people are into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 16, 2011 Share #4 Posted July 16, 2011 $50 for a ride to Coney/Rockaways, when you can pay $2.25 for the same thing on newer equipment? I don't get why people are into this. I don't either. If I'm spending that kind of money, I want to spend most of the time on the train itself and the museum. Outside venues I can do on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted July 16, 2011 Share #5 Posted July 16, 2011 So don't attend, leaves more room for people like me and others who want to attend the trips.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman1455 Posted July 16, 2011 Share #6 Posted July 16, 2011 $50 for a ride to Coney/Rockaways, when you can pay $2.25 for the same thing on newer equipment? I don't get why people are into this. Well Guy... If they don't do this the transit museum will close because this and donations is the only way they stay open. DERP!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Young+ Posted July 16, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted July 16, 2011 I notice the trip to Coney Island on that link mentions going to the beach or staying aboard for "additional rides". Any idea what those rides are--to other places, or just repeats of the original? Last year, after leaving Coney Island, we headed North on either the or line to either DeKalb Avenue or Atlantic Avenue/Pacific Street, went south on the to 95th Street because of a General Order, then we went back North via the Montague Street tunnel, where we went on the Nassau Street line (aka the and lines). We stopped at Broad street for a few minutes, then we stopped at Chambers Street. At Chambers Street (where the relays on the weekend) we had the option of taking a train to Marcy Avenue or Hewes Street to take pictures of the Arnines either as they were coming off of the Williamsburg Bridge or in the relay in between the 2 stations. After the relay, the train went back South to Chambers Street, where it stopped for a few moments for more picture taking. Afterwards, since the train was running late, it went back down to Coney Island, where it arrived on the platform to pick up the rest of the passengers. Since the IND trips are the same this year as last year, I wouldn't be surprised if they do something similar (or the exact same thing). If you want to see my pictures from the trip & the program, click here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted July 16, 2011 Share #8 Posted July 16, 2011 $50 for a ride to Coney/Rockaways, when you can pay $2.25 for the same thing on newer equipment? I don't get why people are into this. The newer equipment don't have the feel of the older equipment.you get to see what people rode before the new cars ever came.ride the cars one of these days when they do run in service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTK246 Posted July 16, 2011 Share #9 Posted July 16, 2011 DERP!!!!!!!!! this made me cry on the inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 17, 2011 Share #10 Posted July 17, 2011 Well Guy... If they don't do this the transit museum will close because this and donations is the only way they stay open. DERP!!!!!!!!! You are missing the point entirely. Supporting the Transit Museum is fine and worthy; the question is the venue. Coney Island is not or should not be the main draw. The product that makes Nostalgia Specials unique is to see the system and its history. I would rather spend my time touring the Coney Island shop and yard (or any other facility for that matter) and the "behind the scenes" stuff that makes the system actually run. In other words, I want a product specific to my interests in NYC Transit. The rest I can do myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted July 18, 2011 Share #11 Posted July 18, 2011 Again, you don't have to attend if you don't want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman1455 Posted July 18, 2011 Share #12 Posted July 18, 2011 You are missing the point entirely. Supporting the Transit Museum is fine and worthy; the question is the venue. Coney Island is not or should not be the main draw. The product that makes Nostalgia Specials unique is to see the system and its history. I would rather spend my time touring the Coney Island shop and yard (or any other facility for that matter) and the "behind the scenes" stuff that makes the system actually run. In other words, I want a product specific to my interests in NYC Transit. The rest I can do myself. Well they did do it last year... and this year... and they will do it next year so what are you talking about? You've missed the whole thing. Congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 18, 2011 Share #13 Posted July 18, 2011 You are missing the point entirely. Supporting the Transit Museum is fine and worthy; the question is the venue. Coney Island is not or should not be the main draw. The product that makes Nostalgia Specials unique is to see the system and its history. I would rather spend my time touring the Coney Island shop and yard (or any other facility for that matter) and the "behind the scenes" stuff that makes the system actually run. In other words, I want a product specific to my interests in NYC Transit. The rest I can do myself. so then go on the tour of that yard when it is offered, as it has been on the past. but dont complain simply because you didnt get the 'day of nothing but trains' that you envisioned nostalgia trains are run to draw children and families into the concept of saving, restoring, and displaying old subway cars they're also fun to ride because they don't feel anything like the new equipment and they go back to a time the city was very different...and like people did then you ride the subway to coney island b/c that's where people rode the subway back then (and still today) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Young+ Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share #14 Posted July 18, 2011 Well they did do it last year... and this year... and they will do it next year so what are you talking about? You've missed the whole thing. Congrats! How do you know they will do it again next year (2012)? Personally, I was hoping for something a little bit different (like back in 2008 when we went to the 207 Street Yard, or maybe do a trip on the Canarsie line, etc.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chip1035 Posted July 18, 2011 Share #15 Posted July 18, 2011 so then go on the tour of that yard when it is offered, as it has been on the past. but dont complain simply because you didnt get the 'day of nothing but trains' that you envisioned nostalgia trains are run to draw children and families into the concept of saving, restoring, and displaying old subway cars they're also fun to ride because they don't feel anything like the new equipment and they go back to a time the city was very different...and like people did then you ride the subway to coney island b/c that's where people rode the subway back then (and still today) When do they have tours of the train yards? Where can I get information on those? I'd love to see a tour of the the train yards. Thanks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 18, 2011 Share #16 Posted July 18, 2011 When do they have tours of the train yards? Where can I get information on those? I'd love to see a tour of the the train yards. Thanks... http://www.mta.info/museum click CALENDAR OF EVENTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 19, 2011 Share #17 Posted July 19, 2011 so then go on the tour of that yard when it is offered, as it has been on the past. but dont complain simply because you didnt get the 'day of nothing but trains' that you envisioned nostalgia trains are run to draw children and families into the concept of saving, restoring, and displaying old subway cars they're also fun to ride because they don't feel anything like the new equipment and they go back to a time the city was very different...and like people did then you ride the subway to coney island b/c that's where people rode the subway back then (and still today) I'm not complaining; I'm agreeing with another poster on the venue. It's that simple. I have been to transit yards and facilities in the past. I would love to attend more venues, but I work two jobs to support my family. Moreover, I've been riding trains and railfanning since the fare was 15 cents. If I were to compare the times, I would say that the ambiance can't be recaptured. There are things that are better and things that are worse. It's the civility of the people that has changed (for the worse). Some differences: 1. People were friendlier back in the 1960s; gentlemen gave up their seats to ladies and the elderly; courtesy was contagious. There was no "What you lookin' at?" Even the profound racism in the U.S. was more subtle here in NY. People became rude during the 1970s and 1980s and there was a general disrespect for authority (graffiti, police, etc.) which reflected the social unrest (Vietnam War, the recession, Watergate, NYC almost going bankrupt, etc.). Today, people are zoned out in their iPods. 2. We all hated non-air conditioned rolling stock at that time and would let an arnine (or any pre-R38 train) pass to catch a brand-new R38, R40, or R42! It was kind of fun to watch tall dudes with Jackson 5 Afros just barely miss the exposed fans on arnines. We also hated the almost daily derailments that occurred with "deferred maintenance" during the 1970s. We also hated the conversion of wicker and naugahyde seats into hard plastic because punks were slicing them up. 3. Humor! The canned crap on the NTTs are antithetical to the glory days of the conductor operated PA systems. Those old school conductors would give us the news, sights to see, the weather report, jokes, etc. We just loved the accents from Bronx Italian to West Indian to Yiddish to Puerto Rican. You could just feel New York as the "gorgeous mosaic." This was, of course, limited to trains with PA systems. The R10s (before they were retro-fitted) on down had none; conductors would simply shout from outside. My point is that while riding an arnine "feels" (and smells, looks, sounds) different, you are not going to get the feel of the time period simply riding them. It's the people that made the real difference and they were shaped by the their environment. Even the ads had a special significance like Julio and Maria's AIDS soap opera during the 1980s. Enjoy the experience but realize that it's not an authentic experience; it's a shadow of eras long since passed. Also enjoy what we have now; these days will also pass and your kids won't understand this time period either! Just my 2 cents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted July 19, 2011 Share #18 Posted July 19, 2011 Enjoy the experience but realize that it's not an authentic experience; it's a shadow of eras long since passed... And that's why it's a "nostalgia train" and not a "time travel train"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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