Q43LTD Posted August 1, 2011 Share #1 Posted August 1, 2011 http://www.mta.info/nyct/facts/ridership/index.htm#intro_b Top 10 Bronx routes: Bx12 Bx1/2 Bx19 Bx36 Bx9 Bx40/42 Bx41 Bx39 Bx22 Bx3 Top 10 Brooklyn routes: B46 B6 B44 B35 B41 B82 B15 B8 B38 B1 Top 10 Manhattan routes: M15 M14 M101 M86 M4 M7 M100 M60 M102 M79 Top 10 Queens routes: Q44 Q58 Q27 Q46 Q17 Q43 Q20 Q32 Q5 Q85 Top 10 Staten Island routes: S53 S79 S48/98 S46/96 S44/94 S78 S74/84 S62/92 S61/91 S40/90 Top 10 MTAB routes: Q10 Q65 Q25 Q23 Q53 Q60 Q111 Q66 Q6 Q113 Top 10 Express routes (NYCT): X1 X10 X17 X27/37 X28/38 X12/42 X5 X22 X7 X2 Top 10 Express routes (MTAB): BxM7 BxM9 BxM10 QM2 QM6 BxM7A BxM1 BM1 BxM11 QM24 I'm a little surprised at these numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acela Express Posted August 1, 2011 Share #2 Posted August 1, 2011 And of course some of those numbers aren't too accurate as half the passengers probably don't pay to get on anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted August 1, 2011 Share #3 Posted August 1, 2011 And of course some of those numbers aren't too accurate as half the passengers probably don't pay to get on anyway. That's what the 5/F5 button is for. In any case, a lot of them only ride the buses for a mile or so, so it's not making a huge difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acela Express Posted August 1, 2011 Share #4 Posted August 1, 2011 That's what the 5/F5 button is for. Not that every operator uses the F5 button; at least the ones I know doesn't. Hell, for all we know the B35 could be the number 1 route in Brooklyn. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transit bx Posted August 1, 2011 Share #5 Posted August 1, 2011 That's what the 5/F5 button is for. In any case, a lot of them only ride the buses for a mile or so, so it's not making a huge difference. I second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transit bx Posted August 1, 2011 Share #6 Posted August 1, 2011 http://www.mta.info/nyct/facts/ridership/index.htm#intro_bTop 10 Bronx routes: Bx12 Bx1/2 Bx19 Bx36 Bx9 Bx40/42 Bx41 Bx39 Bx22 Bx3 Top 10 Brooklyn routes: B46 B6 B44 B35 B41 B82 B15 B8 B38 B1 Top 10 Manhattan routes: M15 M14 M101 M86 M4 M7 M100 M60 M102 M79 Top 10 Queens routes: Q44 Q58 Q27 Q46 Q17 Q43 Q20 Q32 Q5 Q85 Top 10 Staten Island routes: S53 S79 S48/98 S46/96 S44/94 S78 S74/84 S62/92 S61/91 S40/90 Top 10 MTAB routes: Q10 Q65 Q25 Q23 Q53 Q60 Q111 Q66 Q6 Q113 Top 10 Express routes (NYCT): X1 X10 X17 X27/37 X28/38 X12/42 X5 X22 X7 X2 Top 10 Express routes (MTAB): BxM7 BxM9 BxM10 QM2 QM6 BxM7A BxM1 BM1 BxM11 QM24 I'm a little surprised at these numbers From the looks of it MTAB numbers have been going up while NYCT numbers have been dropping, im very surprise. And the top three express routes came out of my depot wow thats very good lol. The only route thats missing is BxM6 from our express line up. Well i had a few ppl ask me why the BxM7 cant run later all the time smh. That line is always busy at all sorts of time, that also go for the 9 as well, the 7A also have its run. Lets get it MTAB we on it lol.:tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted August 1, 2011 Share #7 Posted August 1, 2011 From the looks of it MTAB numbers have been going up while NYCT numbers have been dropping, im very surprise. And the top three express routes came out of my depot wow thats very good lol. The only route thats missing is BxM6 from our express line up. Well i had a few ppl ask me why the BxM7 cant run later all the time smh. That line is always busy at all sorts of time, that also go for the 9 as well, the 7A also have its run. Lets get it MTAB we on it lol.:tup: QM24 WTF!!!!! Where does this rte get it's ppl!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 1, 2011 Share #8 Posted August 1, 2011 I have to say that I'm quite impressed with the Riverdale folks. They have three express buses and the BXM1 ranks in the top ten. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted August 1, 2011 Share #9 Posted August 1, 2011 B8 is in the top ten... higher than the B38 and no limited!?!? Come on MTA... Make a B8 limited! its a long ass route and quite a few people ride it for long distances. If those SI ferry route can have a limted, then so can the B8! :mad: The B1... that run under the train EL would pretty much kill the idea of a limited on that route. For the B15 it would be nice... QM24 higher ridership than the BM2? Shocking... I wonder why the via FDR runs out of UP are separate from the X27/28... :tup: to Green Lines/JFK depot for having three routes in the top ten ridership, kinda boring now over there with all the hybrids but I still like the depot! Shocked the B103 didn't make the list though as well as the Q11. But yes I'm very salty about the B8 lacking a limited right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share #10 Posted August 1, 2011 QM24 WTF!!!!! Where does this rte get it's ppl!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, I don't know, people who don't wanna take the (Q55) to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted August 2, 2011 Share #11 Posted August 2, 2011 few thoughts: - I have a hard time believing the Q23 carries more than the Q6, 53, 60, and both the brewer routes.... - When you see the B8 in brooklyn's top 10, you know there's some serious farebeating goin on, on other lines in this borough !!! - The B1 is the only route on brooklyn's list whose riders aren't majority black... good for those riders using their route enough to make the borough's top 10.... - The MTA exp. bus numbers, only one that surprises me is the BxM10 being that high up in the order... - Top 3 NYCT exp. routes - there's a shocker ! - lol @ the north shore routes sandwiched b/w the Hylan routes - also lol @ the Q32 carrying more than the heaviest 2 SE Queens routes (so much for wanting to eliminate routes that parallel subway lines, right MTA ??) - QM24 carries... that's them folks on eliot & myrtle that flood those buses.... - manhattan's top 10... I'm just glad they separated the 100/101/102... wait a minute - wth is the M100 doin in the top ten !?!?!??? - no M23 ? - bronx's top ten looks okay to me... sorry to say, but come next year's stats, watch how low the 41's gonna drop.... - ...and what Acela Express said in post #2 in this thread ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acela Express Posted August 2, 2011 Share #12 Posted August 2, 2011 - When you see the B8 in brooklyn's top 10, you know there's some serious farebeating goin on, on other lines in this borough !!!! It's probably safe to say the B36 would've made the list if it wasn't for all the damn fare beating. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted August 2, 2011 Share #13 Posted August 2, 2011 Top 10 express bus lines 2010 total X1 1,835,022 X17 1,465,542 BxM7 955,009 X10 876,989 X27/37 830,882 X28/X38 798,112 BxM9 614,951 X12/X42 566,638 BxM10 534,124 QM2 518,798 Top 10 express bus lines weekday averages 2010 total X1 6,181 X17 5,582 X27/X37 3,185 BxM7 3,147 X28/X38 3,087 X10 2,903 X12/X42 2,240 BxM9 2,169 QM2 1,914 X5 1,907 Top 10 express bus lines weekend averages 2010 total X1 4,913 BxM7 2,885 X10 2,569 BxM10 1,345 BxM9 1,197 BxM1 1,145 BxM11 1,044 X17 1,006 BxM2 987 BxM7A 968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 2, 2011 Share #14 Posted August 2, 2011 I wonder why the via FDR runs out of UP are separate from the X27/28... I think they're trying to make it clearer for riders to distinguish where the X27 and X28 go and where the X37 and X38 go so as to better advertise the routes now that they're restored the old patterns prior to the June 2010 cuts. I believe ridership dropped slightly when they did the elimination of direct Midtown service. :mad: :tdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share #15 Posted August 2, 2011 few thoughts: - I have a hard time believing the Q23 carries more than the Q6, 53, 60, and both the brewer routes.... Join the club. You should see the weekend rankings - When you see the B8 in brooklyn's top 10, you know there's some serious farebeating goin on, on other lines in this borough !!! - The B1 is the only route on brooklyn's list whose riders aren't majority black... good for those riders using their route enough to make the borough's top 10.... - The MTA exp. bus numbers, only one that surprises me is the BxM10 being that high up in the order... - Top 3 NYCT exp. routes - there's a shocker ! - lol @ the north shore routes sandwiched b/w the Hylan routes The S48 as the heaviest used route out of St George. Hmmm... - also lol @ the Q32 carrying more than the heaviest 2 SE Queens routes (so much for wanting to eliminate routes that parallel subway lines, right MTA ??) That shocked the hell out of me - QM24 carries... that's them folks on eliot & myrtle that flood those buses.... - manhattan's top 10... I'm just glad they separated the 100/101/102... wait a minute - wth is the M100 doin in the top ten !?!?!??? Ask the people that have been using the M100 lol - no M23 ? The M23 missed it by 474 riders - bronx's top ten looks okay to me... sorry to say, but come next year's stats, watch how low the 41's gonna drop.... - ...and what Acela Express said in post #2 in this thread ! I messed up the Bronx one. This is the Bronx one: Bx12 Bx1/2 Bx19 Bx36 Bx9 Bx40/42 Bx6 Bx15 Bx41 Bx39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted August 2, 2011 Share #16 Posted August 2, 2011 few thoughts: - I have a hard time believing the Q23 carries more than the Q6, 53, 60, and both the brewer routes.... - The B1 is the only route on brooklyn's list whose riders aren't majority black... good for those riders using their route enough to make the borough's top 10.... 1) It's possible (though not likely), since the other routes have more alternatives. 2) What about the B8 and B82? They spend a lot of time in "White" areas. If nothing else, I assume they use it to reach the subway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted August 2, 2011 Share #17 Posted August 2, 2011 1) It's possible (though not likely), since the other routes have more alternatives. 2) What about the B8 and B82? They spend a lot of time in "White" areas. If nothing else, I assume they use it to reach the subway. 1) I don't disagree w/ that general statement.... 2) B8 I'd say is 1/2 and 1/2 (black/white).... B82 has significantly more black riders than white riders.... going by time spent in a particular neighborhood doesn't always tell the story (case in point, the Q35).... I'm still working on that list btw..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted August 2, 2011 Share #18 Posted August 2, 2011 1) I don't disagree w/ that general statement.... 2) B8 I'd say is 1/2 and 1/2 (black/white).... B82 has significantly more black riders than white riders.... going by time spent in a particular neighborhood doesn't always tell the story (case in point, the Q35).... I'm still working on that list btw..... Alright then. How about the B6? What's the black/white split on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 2, 2011 Share #19 Posted August 2, 2011 Alright then. How about the B6? What's the black/white split on that? The B6 should be relatively easy since I used in Midwood and used it usually past Ocean Avenue. I had a friend who lived in Bensonhurst and when I would get on and we'd make our way past Coney Island Avenue, I recall it being majority white and very few black passengers. I think you see fewer whites as you get by Flatbush/Nostand Avenues and certainly far more blacks as those areas are more urban. Parts of Midwood have a more suburban feel to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotb16 Posted August 2, 2011 Share #20 Posted August 2, 2011 I messed up the Bronx one. This is the Bronx one:Bx12 Bx1/2 Bx19 Bx36 Bx9 Bx40/42 Bx6 Bx15 Bx41 Bx39 Correction, these are the top 10 Bronx bus routes based on annual ridership for 2010: Bx12: 14.5M Bx1/2: 12.46M Bx19: 10.53M Bx36: 9.67M Bx9: 8.79M Bx40/42: 8.46M Bx41: 7.58M Bx15: 7.46M Bx6: 6.60M Bx22: 5.24M With these numbers, I'm only surprised that the Bx22 has higher ridership than the Bx3 and Bx35. But it can be justified by the fact that the Bx22's route is longer and it's a semi-crosstown since Castle Hill/Parkchester riders use it to reach Fordham, the Northwest Bronx, and even Upper Manhattan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted August 3, 2011 Share #21 Posted August 3, 2011 The B6 should be relatively easy since I used in Midwood and used it usually past Ocean Avenue. I had a friend who lived in Bensonhurst and when I would get on and we'd make our way past Coney Island Avenue, I recall it being majority white and very few black passengers. I think you see fewer whites as you get by Flatbush/Nostand Avenues and certainly far more blacks as those areas are more urban. Parts of Midwood have a more suburban feel to them. You got the transition points (if you wanna call it that) correct... the black riders for the most part all fizzle out at CI av on the B6 (panning west).... the white riders all tend to fizzle out @ Flatbush (panning east); across from that laundromat.... Alright then. How about the B6? What's the black/white split on that? B6 demographic is similar to the B82, but the gap is less.... I would say the B6 gets more black & more white riders than the B82 (looking at this another way, the B6 has higher ridership than the B82, on both ends of its respective routes).... of course this is all opinion, but black to white, I'd say the B82 is 70/30 & the B6 is 60/40... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted August 3, 2011 Share #22 Posted August 3, 2011 You got the transition points (if you wanna call it that) correct... the black riders for the most part all fizzle out at CI av on the B6 (panning west).... the white riders all tend to fizzle out @ Flatbush (panning east); across from that laundromat.... B6 demographic is similar to the B82, but the gap is less.... I would say the B6 gets more black & more white riders than the B82 (looking at this another way, the B6 has higher ridership than the B82, on both ends of its respective routes).... of course this is all opinion, but black to white, I'd say the B82 is 70/30 & the B6 is 60/40... Any Hispanics on either of those routes? Now that I think about it, none of the areas that either of the routes go through have a large Hispanic population. Maybe Coney Island for the B82 and New Lots for the B6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted August 3, 2011 Share #23 Posted August 3, 2011 Any Hispanics on either of those routes? Now that I think about it, none of the areas that either of the routes go through have a large Hispanic population. Maybe Coney Island for the B82 and New Lots for the B6. Not significant enough on either route, sorry to say =( I mean, anyone can board a bus at anytime, so this is all moot.... just figured I'd throw that disclaimer in there.... but since you seem very fascinated/interested with this, I'll continue opinionating.... lol ! You may get some on the B82 traveling b/w bay pkwy & kings hwy , and b/w Rockaway pkwy & w/i starrett city itself.... as for the B6, you may get some b/w CI av & Glenwood/Nostrand..... I can't think of any other stints on the 6/82 there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted August 3, 2011 Share #24 Posted August 3, 2011 Not significant enough on either route, sorry to say =( I mean, anyone can board a bus at anytime, so this is all moot.... just figured I'd throw that disclaimer in there.... but since you seem very fascinated/interested with this, I'll continue opinionating.... lol ! You may get some on the B82 traveling b/w bay pkwy & kings hwy (, and b/w Rockaway pkwy & w/i starrett city itself.... as for the B6, you may get some b/w CI av & Glenwood/Nostrand..... I can't think of any other stints on the 6/82 there... That may change a bit. With the exodus of Italians out of most of Bensonhurst (they still occupy parts of Cristoforo Colombo Blvd (18th Ave)) and of course have a stranglehold on areas by and in Dyker Heights, there are a lot of Asians there and I have seen some Latinos there as well in Bensonhurst, but not a ton, but that may change going forward. Similar to Morris Park, but Morris Park is still heavily Italian with some Latinos in parts and now Albanians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted August 3, 2011 Share #25 Posted August 3, 2011 That may change a bit. With the exodus of Italians out of most of Bensonhurst (they still occupy parts of Cristoforo Colombo Blvd (18th Ave)) and of course have a stranglehold on areas by and in Dyker Heights, there are a lot of Asians there and I have seen some Latinos there as well in Bensonhurst, but not a ton, but that may change going forward. Similar to Morris Park, but Morris Park is still heavily Italian with some Latinos in parts and now Albanians. Yeah, anything's subject to change..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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