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On 12/3/2020 at 5:35 PM, lornaevo said:

82 to CP? Starting when? 

Delivery is expected to begin in January 2021.

On 12/3/2020 at 8:11 PM, RSMG106 said:

Disclose it. I meant 50 buses in NYCT to go to Charleston only. Not sure if the MTA will get the option order of 23, and taking it to Yukon.

At this time the option order has not been accepted. 

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On 12/6/2020 at 1:37 PM, Novabus 5000 said:

Delivery is expected to begin in January 2021.

At this time the option order has not been accepted. 

Thanks for the info, but I do have two things. One is that I may ride on the 2001-02 D4500s at CP one last time next week before the Prevost delivery starts next month. And secondly, I'm guessing that the (MTA) will not takeover Academy's X23/X24 service?

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On 12/2/2020 at 11:25 PM, Cait Sith said:

Preliminary assignments of the new fleet are as follows. Depot assignments were set this week, allotments were set today. SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

LFS Hybrids: Kingsbridge: 25. Manhattanville: 58. MJQ: 62. Tusgekee Airmen: 20. Options as follows, Gun Hill: 20. Manhattanville: 94. MJQ: 12
XDEs : East New York: 25. Manhattanville: 15. Hale: 45. Casey Stengel: 25.
Prevost x3-45s: BP: 8 CP: 82 ECH: 48 JK/FR: 23 LGA: 22 SC: 45 YO: 39. All 50 buses for NYC Bus is rumored to go to Meredith.
LFS Diesel OPTION ORDER: East New York: 69. Casey Stengel: 50. Jamaica: 20. Queens Village: 50. Castleton: 20.

As always, this is SUBJECT TO CHANGE.

Also, 1301 is at Plattsburgh pending delivery to the service center.

I knew I may jumping the gun, and the assignments are subjected to change, but I calculated on what will the new order replace, displace, or for fleet expansion. Here's the following:

LFS HEV: 

25 to Kingsbridge (To Displace 25 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

20 (Option) to Gun Hill (To Displace 20 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus),

58 (94 Options=152) to Manhattanville (To Replace all 2006 Orion VII HEVs, and all 2008 Orion VII NG HEVs, and to displace most 2009 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

62 (12 Options=74) to Michael J. Quill (To Replace all 2006 Orion VII HEVs, and all 2008 Orion VII NG HEVs, and to displace some 2009 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

20 to Tuskegee Airmen (100th Street) (To Replace all 2008 Orion VII NG HEVs)

 

XDE40:

25 to East New York (To Displace 25 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

15 to Manhattanville (To Displace 15 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

45 to Mother Clara Hale (To Replace all 2006 Orion VII HEVs, and some 2008 Orion VII NG HEVs)

25 to Casey Stengel (To Displace 25 2009 Orion VII HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

 

X-345:

8 to Baisley Park (To Replace all D4500CLs)

82 to College Point (To Replace all 2001-02 D4500s and most of the D4500CLs)

48 to Eastchester (To Replace the two remaining 2002 D4500s, and most of the D4500CLs)

23 to JFK/Far Rockaway (To Replace 23 D4500CLs)

22 to LGA (To Replace 22 D4500CLs)

45 to Spring Creek (To Replace almost all D4500CLs)

39 to Yonkers (To Replace 39 D4500CLs)

Option order not accepted, but 1300-1349 are rumored for assignment for Meredith to displace most of the 2011 or 2015-16 Prevosts to (MTA) Bus for replacement)

 

LFS Diesel Option:

69 to East New York (To Displace all remaining 2009 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

50 to Casey Stengel (To Displace all remaining 2009-10 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

20 to Jamaica (For possible fleet expansion)

50 to Queens Village (To Replace all 2007 Orion VII HEVs)

20 to Castleton (For possible fleet expansion)

 

I understand that this is subjected to change and the reasoning for assignment for the new orders may or may not happen, but these are my possibilities on what will happen when these new orders are assigned to the following depots. Also I am not sure if most of the 2009-10 Orion VII NG HEVs would be transferred to (MTA) Bus, but we will have to wait and see.

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2 hours ago, RSMG106 said:

I knew I may jumping the gun, and the assignments are subjected to change, but I calculated on what will the new order replace, displace, or for fleet expansion. Here's the following:

LFS HEV: 

25 to Kingsbridge (To Displace 25 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

20 (Option) to Gun Hill (To Displace 20 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus),

58 (94 Options=152) to Manhattanville (To Replace all 2006 Orion VII HEVs, and all 2008 Orion VII NG HEVs, and to displace most 2009 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

62 (12 Options=74) to Michael J. Quill (To Replace all 2006 Orion VII HEVs, and all 2008 Orion VII NG HEVs, and to displace some 2009 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

20 to Tuskegee Airmen (100th Street) (To Replace all 2008 Orion VII NG HEVs)

 

XDE40:

25 to East New York (To Displace 25 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

15 to Manhattanville (To Displace 15 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

45 to Mother Clara Hale (To Replace all 2006 Orion VII HEVs, and some 2008 Orion VII NG HEVs)

25 to Casey Stengel (To Displace 25 2009 Orion VII HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

 

X-345:

8 to Baisley Park (To Replace all D4500CLs)

82 to College Point (To Replace all 2001-02 D4500s and most of the D4500CLs)

48 to Eastchester (To Replace the two remaining 2002 D4500s, and most of the D4500CLs)

23 to JFK/Far Rockaway (To Replace 23 D4500CLs)

22 to LGA (To Replace 22 D4500CLs)

45 to Spring Creek (To Replace almost all D4500CLs)

39 to Yonkers (To Replace 39 D4500CLs)

Option order not accepted, but 1300-1349 are rumored for assignment for Meredith to displace most of the 2011 or 2015-16 Prevosts to (MTA) Bus for replacement)

 

LFS Diesel Option:

69 to East New York (To Displace all remaining 2009 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

50 to Casey Stengel (To Displace all remaining 2009-10 Orion VII NG HEVs to (MTA) Bus)

20 to Jamaica (For possible fleet expansion)

50 to Queens Village (To Replace all 2007 Orion VII HEVs)

20 to Castleton (For possible fleet expansion)

 

I understand that this is subjected to change and the reasoning for assignment for the new orders may or may not happen, but these are my possibilities on what will happen when these new orders are assigned to the following depots. Also I am not sure if most of the 2009-10 Orion VII NG HEVs would be transferred to (MTA) Bus, but we will have to wait and see.

 

those 50 for Qv will replace NG's not the Old gens. those Old Gens will be replaced by ether Next gens or something else from the current base order.

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22 minutes ago, limitednyc said:

i quess  the mta is not going to order any more xd40's

Why are you jumping to that conclusion?

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10 minutes ago, limitednyc said:

because the only new fliers is this round of orders were xde's

Doesn't mean that they won't order any XDs in the near future. We still gotta get rid of the remaining NGs, and they might expand the fleet even more (after the whole budget thing).

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On 12/8/2020 at 1:11 AM, R32 3838 said:

 

those 50 for Qv will replace NG's not the Old gens. those Old Gens will be replaced by ether Next gens or something else from the current base order.

Wait so why would they be replacing the NG’s just to get more NG’s to replace their OG’s? 
 

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1 hour ago, lornaevo said:

Any plans to upgrade the CNG fleet of CP?

There won’t be any need to until the CNG tanks on their buses expire.

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21 hours ago, NewFlyer 230 said:

Wait so why would they be replacing the NG’s just to get more NG’s to replace their OG’s? 
 

 

Im talking about the 50 Option order LFS replacing 50 NG's. currently all the NYCT Old gens are retiring, the ENY ones are just about gone. Manhattanville's are next and QV already lost some. the option order buses are gonna replace the remaining Old gens at (MTA) bus and a portion of the NG's (3800-3959)

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8 hours ago, R32 3838 said:

 

Im talking about the 50 Option order LFS replacing 50 NG's. currently all the NYCT Old gens are retiring, the ENY ones are just about gone. Manhattanville's are next and QV already lost some. the option order buses are gonna replace the remaining Old gens at (MTA) bus and a portion of the NG's (3800-3959)

Do we have any idea what will replace Queens Village’s batch of 2007 Hybrids before the option order?

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37 minutes ago, Snorunts said:

Do we have any idea what will replace Queens Village’s batch of 2007 Hybrids before the option order?

That's a good question. I say this.... Right now too early to tell. 

 

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Just saw 3805 from MJQ heading east on Sunrise Hwy in Freeport yesterday evening.   Any ideas where it was heading?

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5 minutes ago, SubBus said:

Just saw 3805 from MJQ heading east on Sunrise Hwy in Freeport yesterday evening.   Any ideas where it was heading?

Northeastern Bus Rebuilders in Ronkonkoma.

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On 12/16/2020 at 1:35 AM, Cait Sith said:

Northeastern Bus Rebuilders in Ronkonkoma.

Thanks, appreciate it...

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8273 and 8114 are currently on the Verrazano Bridge to Staten Island heading back to its depot. 

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It will soon be time to get your pics and vids of the 3000s and the 4300s while you can, 1302-1304 are in New Jersey.

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3 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

There is a “9999” on the M2 heading to the East Village as we speak 

(I assume a bustime error but stranger things have happened) 

Maybe it was 3999 and there was just a typo? I'm not sure how it works tbh.

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3 hours ago, RapidoNewLook said:

Which depot will get the new Prevost  X3-45 first?

(Not confirmed) but most likely College Point. They have the oldest MCIs currently, and it'd make sense for them to go there if they are assigned to MTA Bus

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