Cait Sith Posted June 24, 2016 Share #826 Posted June 24, 2016 Specs for the upcoming fleets have been confirmed. 139 XD60's - Hanover Signs, Allison Transmissions, and ThermoKing HVAC's 138 XN40's - Hanover, Allison, TK 92 LFSA's - Hanover, ZF, MCC (Carrier) HVAC's Weren't the ZFs supposed to be in the XN40s?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreeddekalbL Posted June 24, 2016 Share #827 Posted June 24, 2016 i saw alot pictures of the BC mci's even the 2200's have the front destination sign not lookin stable is something wrong with the structure of their front destination signs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted June 25, 2016 Share #828 Posted June 25, 2016 i saw alot pictures of the BC mci's even the 2200's have the front destination sign not lookin stable is something wrong with the structure of their front destination signs It's just the sign brackets. Nothing major. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 26, 2016 Author Share #829 Posted June 26, 2016 Weren't the ZFs supposed to be in the XN40s?? You are right. I just double-checked the specs to make sure and it does in fact say ZF Electronic 6AP-1400B. Thanks. I need to stop posting so late at night! lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegoBrickBreaker101 Posted June 28, 2016 Share #830 Posted June 28, 2016 Specs for the upcoming fleets have been confirmed. 139 XD60's - Hanover Signs, Allison Transmissions, and ThermoKing HVAC's 138 XN40's - Hanover, Allison, TK 92 LFSA's - Hanover, ZF, MCC (Carrier) HVAC's Just wondering, which buses in our fleet have the Hanover signs that are gonna be in these new buses? Are these signs going to be similar to the ones on the RTS'? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted June 28, 2016 Share #831 Posted June 28, 2016 Just wondering, which buses in our fleet have the Hanover signs that are gonna be in these new buses? Are these signs going to be similar to the ones on the RTS'? The 5100s & 5200s RTS with the orange signs, the 4700s XD60, and the 4800s XD40s all have Hanover signs. The new order may come with a multicolor Hanover, but it's still the same thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro CSW Posted June 28, 2016 Share #832 Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Just wondering, which buses in our fleet have the Hanover signs that are gonna be in these new buses? Are these signs going to be similar to the ones on the RTS'?I don't think so. They'll look similar to the Luminator Titans signs, in a way.... Look at 5364 and up. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk Edited June 28, 2016 by Metro CSW 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted June 28, 2016 Share #833 Posted June 28, 2016 wondering if there are enough artics for Tuesday at BP? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far rockaway Posted June 29, 2016 Share #834 Posted June 29, 2016 wondering if there are enough artics for Tuesday at BP? yes there are enough artics for BP. BP only needs five more XD60'S and their units from JFK. I would be happy if all those brewer routes would be just running XD60'S. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubBus Posted June 29, 2016 Share #835 Posted June 29, 2016 yes there are enough artics for BP. BP only needs five more XD60'S and their units from JFK. I would be happy if all those brewer routes would be just running XD60'S.Hopefully by next week, The Brewer routes will be 100% artics....[emoji120] [emoji106] [emoji3] Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted June 30, 2016 Share #836 Posted June 30, 2016 Just wondering, which buses in our fleet have the Hanover signs that are gonna be in these new buses? Are these signs going to be similar to the ones on the RTS'? They'll probably be similar to the sign 4810 has. On another note it seems they're going back to allison on the Xcelsior artics but now they put the ZF in the Xcelsior CNGs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted June 30, 2016 Share #837 Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) They'll probably be similar to the sign 4810 has. On another note it seems they're going back to allison on the Xcelsior artics but now they put the ZF in the Xcelsior CNGs Which is stupid. It should be all ZF now because they ( ) modify the Allison transmission to the point where it doesn't run well. Edited June 30, 2016 by XcelsiorBoii4888 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted June 30, 2016 Share #838 Posted June 30, 2016 Which is stupid. It should be all ZF now because they ( ) modify the Allison transmission to the point where it doesn't run well. I don't think its an MTA thing. WMATA, NICE, and LA all have modified their newest Xcelsiors transmissions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewYorkElevated Posted July 1, 2016 Share #839 Posted July 1, 2016 Kingsbridge has put an artic on the M100 today and a few days ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted July 1, 2016 Share #840 Posted July 1, 2016 Kingsbridge has put an artic on the M100 today and a few days ago. They need to do more than put AN artic on it. They need to put many artics on it. The last time I had an artic on the M100 was in the dead of night at like 2am. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 2, 2016 Share #841 Posted July 2, 2016 (edited) They'll probably be similar to the sign 4810 has. On another note it seems they're going back to allison on the Xcelsior artics but now they put the ZF in the Xcelsior CNGs It's always been ZFs in the CNGs. Just a mistake in information posted. Which is stupid. It should be all ZF now because they ( ) modify the Allison transmission to the point where it doesn't run well. I don't think its an MTA thing. WMATA, NICE, and LA all have modified their newest Xcelsiors transmissions. It's definitely not an MTA thing. .....but the way the 7100s and up are geared, THAT's an MTA thing. The perfect way to see how well they really run is by taking them on at least the Q44 or the Q70. The way the 4800s had them prior to this latest change was much, much worse, and they broke down a lot. What they have now on the 7100s isn't as bad. Edited July 2, 2016 by Cait Sith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted July 2, 2016 Share #842 Posted July 2, 2016 It's always been ZFs in the CNGs. Just a mistake in information posted. It's definitely not an MTA thing. .....but the way the 7100s and up are geared, THAT's an MTA thing. The perfect way to see how well they really run is by taking them on at least the Q44 or the Q70. The way the 4800s had them prior to this latest change was much, much worse, and they broke down a lot. What they have now on the 7100s isn't as bad. Right. They probably should have been geared like this (the 7000s)..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani Posted July 3, 2016 Share #843 Posted July 3, 2016 It's always been ZFs in the CNGs. Just a mistake in information posted. It's definitely not an MTA thing. .....but the way the 7100s and up are geared, THAT's an MTA thing. The perfect way to see how well they really run is by taking them on at least the Q44 or the Q70. The way the 4800s had them prior to this latest change was much, much worse, and they broke down a lot. What they have now on the 7100s isn't as bad. The 7100s in my opinion are slow as hell thanks to that LBSS crap...unless they deactivate one or some of them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 3, 2016 Share #844 Posted July 3, 2016 (edited) The 7100s in my opinion are slow as hell thanks to that LBSS crap...unless they deactivate one or some of them They haven't. They aren't exactly slow, they just take off slow, they pick up afterwards lol The best ones by far are the MTA Bus units at LaGuardia. Sent from my HTC 10 using Tapatalk Edited July 3, 2016 by Cait Sith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted July 4, 2016 Share #845 Posted July 4, 2016 The 7100s in my opinion are slow as hell thanks to that LBSS crap...unless they deactivate one or some of them They just need to re adjust the gearing that's all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 5, 2016 Share #846 Posted July 5, 2016 So, there appears to be a change in how the new scheme will apply for buses. It's been said that buses from 2009(1200s) and everything 2011 and up would get the new scheme and such. However, this has changed. I'm still awaiting information. But from what's being said, only new buses will receive the new scheme and the Wi-Fi/USB ports. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share #847 Posted July 5, 2016 (edited) Major updates have been made to the first (title) post of this discussion. The original plans called for all buses 2011 and newer to get the new colors, WiFi, and USB outlets. MTA has in fact altered these plans a bit. They did in fact add the 1200's to the plans, however, none of these buses will have USB ports. Only new buses will have those. It does however remain that all buses 2011 and newer along with the 1200's will have the new colors and WiFi. Another change now being incorporated is that fact that ALL buses will eventually have WiFi. Yes ladies, and gentleman, this means the newest of the RTS buses will have it as well. Edited July 5, 2016 by East New York 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Around the Horn Posted July 5, 2016 Share #848 Posted July 5, 2016 Major updates have been made to the first (title) post of this discussion. The original plans called for all buses 2011 and newer to get the new colors, WiFi, and USB outlets. MTA has in fact altered these plans a bit. They did in fact add the 1200's to the plans, however, none of these buses will have USB ports. Only new buses will have those. It does however remain that all buses 2011 and newer along with the 1200's will have the new colors and WiFi. Another change now being incorporated is that fact that ALL buses will eventually have WiFi. Yes ladies, and gentleman, this means the newest of the RTS buses will have it as well. By when? There's no point in wiring up the RTS's just to retire them two years later... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 9, 2016 Author Share #849 Posted July 9, 2016 It doesn't take much to wire a bus for WiFi, and since the newest of the buses are scheduled to be on the roster for at least another 4 years they may as well wire them too. They can easily take the hardware out and put them in other buses when they are retired. The first OG hybrids are scheduled for retirement at the same time as the RTS. They are supposed to get wifi as well which would make since. There are still a lot of old over-life-limit buses around. Now that the OG hybrids have entered the fold, that leaves about 1,600 buses that would otherwise go in-wired.... That would make Wifi service hit or miss.... You may not be able to charge your phone and the bus may not have the fancy new colors, but MTA wants the whole system wired. There's also a R160 set that now has WiFi. I have to get the car numbers. It's on the E. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted July 9, 2016 Share #850 Posted July 9, 2016 Last Update 7/05/16 Local & Express Bus Fleets Confirmed Orders: Current & Future Procurement 2016-2019 75 New Flyer XD60 Articulated Buses MTAB (delivery near complete) 139 New Flyer XD60 Articulated Buses NYCT (awarded) 138 New Flyer XN40 Standard CNG Buses NYCT (awarded) 92 NovaBus LFSA Articulated Buses NYCT (awarded) 428 OTR Express Buses: 257 MTAB (121 options) 2016-2017 & 50 NYCT 2019 (first award 2016) 110 New Flyer XN60 CNG Articulated Buses NYCT (to be awarded 2016) 41 Standard 40 foot Buses MTAB (to be awarded 2017) 628 Remaining Standard Diesel options NYCT (New RFP's may be required and options could be cancelled) 300 Remaining Articulated Diesel Bus options NYCT (190 To Be Exercised/Start Delivery 2017/18) 75 Standard 40 foot Hybrid-electric Buses NYCT (to be awarded 2017) 53 New Flyer XD60 Articulated Buses MTAB (to be awarded 2017) 200 Standard 40 foot Buses NYCT (to be awarded by 2019, could be a mix of hybrid and diesel buses) 75 Standard 40 foot Hybrid-electric Buses NYCT (to be awarded 2019) Regular Line-Haul Fleet (New procurement) 2014-16 Prevost X3-45 Commuter Coach : 45' foot high floor Diesel express coach 2490-2789 (NYCT)2490-2559 Charleston Depot 2560-2684 Yukon Depot 2685-2733 Castleton Depot 2734-2789 Meredith Depot 2014-16 New Flyer XD40: 40 low floor Diesel transit coach · 7090-7487 (NYCT/MTABC) · 7090-7139 East New York Depot · 7140-7192 Ulmer Park Depot · 7193-7254 Grand Avenue Depot · 7255-7303 Fresh Pond Depot · 7304-7365 Flatbush Depot · 7366-7437 Casey Stengel Depot · 7438-7482 LaGuardia Depot 2014-17 NovaBus LFS : 40' low floor Diesel transit coach · 8090-8503 (NYCT) · 8090-8119 Jamaica Depot · 8120-8183 Charleston Depot · 8184-8251 Castleton Depot · 8252-8317 Yukon Depot · 8318-8358 Gun Hill Depot · 8359-8398 Kingsbridge Depot · 8399-8480 Jamaica Depot · 8481-8503 Queens Village Depot 2015-17 New Flyer XD60: 60' low floor articulated transit coach MTAB Delivery in progress. · 5364-5438 (MTAB) · 5364-5391 John F. Kennedy Depot · 5392-5438 Baisley Park Depot 2016-17 New Flyer XD60: 60' low floor transit coach Pilot buses 5987-5990 will be delivered July '16, production buses 2017. · 5987-6125 (NYCT) 2016-17 New Flyer XN40: 40' low floor CNG transit coach Pilot buses 673-677 will be delivered Sept. '16, production buses March-Sept. '17. · 673-810 (NYCT) 2017-18 New Flyer XN60: 60' low floor articulated CNG transit coach To Be Awarded 2016. Delivery expected to run through the end of 2017 · 1000-1109 (NYCT) (fleet numbers not yet confirmed) 2017-18 NovaBus LFSA : 60' low floor diesel transit coach Pilot buses 5439-5442 will be delivered Jan. '17, production buses all by March '18. · 5439-5530 (NYCT) Upcoming planned and/or confirmed demonstation buses. · Accept and demo test BYD Electric (Pending 3rd testing) · Accept and demo test XN60 Articulated CNG bus · Accept and demo test diesel-electric hybrid buses from NFI, Nova, and other potential agencies · Accept and demo test New Flyer XE40 , Nova Electric, Proterra Electric, and other potential models Note: Dates of award, delivery schedule, depot assignments, and technical details all subject to change. All information will be updated accordingly. See The Bus Test & Evaluation Program thread for up to date information on all new bus, configuration, and component testing projects for Department of Buses. Depots (Major Projects Only) Starting January 2015, several bus depots in all 5 boroughs had begun or continued in-house rehabs to modernize the facilities, increase productivity, and lower costs. East New York - Currently in the planning stage is a brand new state-of-the-art facility for the merged bus operations of NYCTA and MTABC. The new building will be located and constructed at the East New York Bus Depot site, which currently serves as MTA's Surface Transit Operations Headquarters. This facility will feature brand new bus dispatch capabilities which will be merged with MTABC, as all buses across the fleet will have their radios replaced for one common system. This will begin the much awaited official merger of New York City Transit's TA and OA divisions with that of MTA Bus Company. All buses will also have their fare-boxes replaced for units that will be common to both Transit and Bus Co. Jamaica - Construction of the new Jamaica Depot is now in the first phase of planning. These discussions include the finalization of the location, the acquisition of property, site preparation, and the overall design of the new depot. The official project completion date is not known as the planning has just begun. It is now being said that the existing depot will be demolished, and a new expanded building will be replaced in the current location along with newly purchased property adjacent to lot to facilitate expansion Mother Clara Hale - The new Mother Clara Hale depot re-opened as a Manhattan Division facility. It is a state of the art depot which currently operates the M1, M7, M15SBS, and M35 bus routes. Read More : mta.info Discuss: Hale Depot Thread Older posts in this thread are subject to removal in order to keep this thread condensed at all times. ok, so LGA wasn't getting artics after all. All the hoopla and instead of the 128 order, it just went to the normal 75. As for the TA version, I am glad with the numbering system because I was just about to say Why go after 5439-56xx whereas you have buses already in the 5510-5769 series that has to be scrapped (minus the 4 that is already retired). 5987-6125 gives it a large chance that we will see the artics in the 6000s finally. After all, the 5000 series will be mixed with Novas and XDs Until the NYCDOT & NYMTA comes up with a solution on what they are going to do about this Woodhaven Blvd SBS, Im not buying it for LGA to get artics. They first must "fix" Northeastern Queens first in which im in if Q25 gets SBS, then CP should get artics, But what the MTA should do in the addition to the 110 XN60 potential order, add 60 more to support the growing artics in WF, suppliment some C40LFs in CP for Artics on the Q25 and have it ready for the SBS in the future. As for WF & Gleason, mix it up for JG's B35 (at least 25-30) and WF's Bx15, Bx19, and Im picking Bx36, as well as a potential Bx6 SBS (58 regs/20 SBS) replacing all Diesel operated NF D60 buses and transferring Nova LFSAs to GH & KB. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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