Novabus 5000 Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1026 Posted January 17, 2017 The B46 was the third busiest bus route in the city in 2015 - curious why artics wouldn't work on this route. The turn around at dekalb is what prevents artics on the line 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1027 Posted January 17, 2017 Seems interesting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1028 Posted January 17, 2017 The turn around at dekalb is what prevents artics on the line Cue the B46 SBS should go to Willy B arguments in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share #1029 Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) The line doesn't need them either. The B46 was the third busiest bus route in the city in 2015 - curious why artics wouldn't work on this route. As stated above, the line doesn't need them. The frequency and reliability of the route has improved drastically. Artics would be an oversaturation of service. If anything they should be on the local. The turn around at dekalb is what prevents artics on the line I could easily make that turn Lil bro. The main issue is the fact that there would be no parking spaces. Cue the B46 SBS should go to Willy B arguments in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...No need to argue this point at all. It's just not going to happen. Edited January 17, 2017 by East New York 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick44 Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1030 Posted January 17, 2017 As stated above, the line doesn't need them. The frequency and reliability of the route has improved drastically. Artics would be an oversaturation of service. If anything they should be on the local. Since that's been mentioned, and I'd agree with that sentiment - is there any chance of artics on the B46 Local? Also, is there any chance of artics on the B44 Local and B49? IMO, those 3 could use that upgrade. I didn't say B41, because I've recently noticed slow and steady ridership decreases across the B41 over the last - well, 24 years I've been on this planet. Moreso, the last 2-3 years. Dollar Vans got bigger. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1031 Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) I'm surprised the TA didn't put artics on the B46 SBS so they could cut service and save money. Edited January 17, 2017 by trainfan22 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1032 Posted January 17, 2017 Can someone provide clarification on the latest express bus order? It just says "first award 2016"... That was supposed to have been awarded last year, so are there any updates on that as to who won the contract? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1033 Posted January 17, 2017 artics on the b103 maybe in the future? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick44 Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1034 Posted January 17, 2017 I'm surprised the TA didn't put artics on the B46 SBS so they could cut service and save money. Would cost them more, because service levels don't require those buses. artics on the b103 maybe in the future? I upvote this because I'd love to see the crowded trips be evened out. Realistically however, the B103 is... well it doesn't work that way. Not every route that has heavy crowds during rush hour should be considered for Artics. There's more that goes into it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1035 Posted January 17, 2017 I'm surprised the TA didn't put artics on the B46 SBS so they could cut service and save money. Is there a possibility that artics will go on the local B46. Also, will the B49 be considered artic worthy for the AM/PM rush hour for KCC? If anything. 46SBS could possibly use more XD40's. Maybe at 10-15 more. Take them from Queens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beelinefan Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1036 Posted January 17, 2017 Here is an idea how about we wait until we have all the details before we talk about what we think should go where. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1037 Posted January 17, 2017 Here is an idea how about we wait until we have all the details before we talk about what we think should go where. I agree ☝???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The TransitMan Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1038 Posted January 17, 2017 Can someone provide clarification on the latest express bus order? It just says "first award 2016"... That was supposed to have been awarded last year, so are there any updates on that as to who won the contract? I'm not sure if that's been decided yet. I removed it until I get confirmation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share #1039 Posted January 17, 2017 Since that's been mentioned, and I'd agree with that sentiment - is there any chance of artics on the B46 Local? Also, is there any chance of artics on the B44 Local and B49? IMO, those 3 could use that upgrade. I didn't say B41, because I've recently noticed slow and steady ridership decreases across the B41 over the last - well, 24 years I've been on this planet. Moreso, the last 2-3 years. Dollar Vans got bigger. No plans for artics on the local, but there should be. A lot of the B41 ridership has been lost to the B103 and Q35. I've been saying this for years and now I finally have data to support it. Hence..... B103 discussion below. As far as the B49, it doesn't really need them. My home lines are the B6, B11, and B49. There is actually a run interlined from the B44+ to the B49 and I see this bus frequently. It's the only artic I see and from my daily travels the line doesn't need them. That particular artic run only goes to Avenue U. Can someone provide clarification on the latest express bus order? It just says "first award 2016"... That was supposed to have been awarded last year, so are there any updates on that as to who won the contract? The contract has not been awarded. There were lots of changes that I previously mentioned. The next order calls for 50 NYCT buses, and 257 MTAB buses. Funding for MTAB has not been identified, and the order for 50 NYCT units was stupider to be last on the books and is now first. Delivery for both scheduled 2018/2019. artics on the b103 maybe in the future? That would be nice, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. Let's see how the XN60's at Gleason and West Farms operate first. MTA may THEN consider some for the Bus Company routes B103 and Q25. So let's revisit this topic in 2018. I'm not sure if that's been decided yet. I removed it until I get confirmation. I have a bit of info to send you for posting. Official XN40 assignment complete. 672-742 Gleason, 673-810 West Farms 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 17, 2017 Share #1040 Posted January 17, 2017 No plans for artics on the local, but there should be. A lot of the B41 ridership has been lost to the B103 and Q35. I've been saying this for years and now I finally have data to support it. Hence..... B103 discussion below. As far as the B49, it doesn't really need them. My home lines are the B6, B11, and B49. There is actually a run interlined from the B44+ to the B49 and I see this bus frequently. It's the only artic I see and from my daily travels the line doesn't need them. That particular artic run only goes to Avenue U. The contract has not been awarded. There were lots of changes that I previously mentioned. The next order calls for 50 NYCT buses, and 257 MTAB buses. Funding for MTAB has not been identified, and the order for 50 NYCT units was stupider to be last on the books and is now first. Delivery for both scheduled 2018/2019. The B49 has lost a lot of ridership over the years, so yes given how the has ruined the route, they don't need them since many people stopped using the line. The B49 used to be a great line. As for the express buses, that's a shame, but I think most of the Bus fleet is holding up nicely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share #1041 Posted January 17, 2017 The B49 has lost a lot of ridership over the years, so yes given how the has ruined the route, they don't need them since many people stopped using the line. The B49 used to be a great line. As for the express buses, that's a shame, but I think most of the Bus fleet is holding up nicely. 100% correct for the B49, and yeah the Express fleet is holding up pretty good. This will be a fierce competition between MCI and Prevost. However, if MCI has not improved on that fuel economy or come with a sweet deal it's going to Prevost hands down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted January 18, 2017 Share #1042 Posted January 18, 2017 As stated above, the line doesn't need them. The frequency and reliability of the route has improved drastically. Artics would be an oversaturation of service. If anything they should be on the local. I could easily make that turn Lil bro. The main issue is the fact that there would be no parking spaces. No need to argue this point at all. It's just not going to happen. I know that, I was being a little sarcastic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share #1043 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) I know lol! I just wanted to stop everyone else before they even started! Edited January 19, 2017 by East New York 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted January 18, 2017 Share #1044 Posted January 18, 2017 100% correct for the B49, and yeah the Express fleet is holding up pretty good. This will be a fierce competition between MCI and Prevost. However, if MCI has not improved on that fuel economy or come with a sweet deal it's going to Prevost hands down. I very much hope its not Prevost...those x3-45s are uncomfortable as it is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick44 Posted January 18, 2017 Share #1045 Posted January 18, 2017 I very much hope its not Prevost...those x3-45s are uncomfortable as it is. The fan in me wants Prevost - the casual passenger in me wants MCI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted January 18, 2017 Share #1046 Posted January 18, 2017 I hope y'all go with MCI too. Our newest D4500CTs are turning to be pretty solid buses and I think they would be perfect for the MTA. Sent from my iPhone using NYC Transit Forums mobile app 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted January 18, 2017 Share #1047 Posted January 18, 2017 I very much hope its not Prevost...those x3-45s are uncomfortable as it is. The fact that the MCI fleet is holding up is a testament to how well their buses are built, not to mention comfort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted January 18, 2017 Share #1048 Posted January 18, 2017 Everything about the Prevost is beautiful. The look, the technology, the engine/transmission combo. The only thing that I wish could change is to raise the seats so you can use the window seal as an armrest, other than that, they are great buses. The 2015s are beast. Sent from my SM-N910P using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted January 18, 2017 Share #1049 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) The provost has gotten better in NYC streets. However, It's MCI 4 life on this side. The newer D4500CT that NJ Transit has are superb and that's needed back in these NYC streets. The 2013 D4500CT that we have are holding up good. Hopefully MCI can make something great for 2018. Edited January 18, 2017 by Future ENY OP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Bus Co. Posted January 19, 2017 Share #1050 Posted January 19, 2017 My concern would be where would Casey Stegal LFSA's go? Manhattan? MCH, TU? Bronx- WF? They will go wherever the Department of Buses decides to send them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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