Jdog14 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2151 Posted July 23, 2018 47 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said: What the hell? Those XD60s are 2 years old and already having HVAC Problems? How did the HVAC break down on these new buses? That might be one reason why all the LFS orders after 2011 have the Carriers (though I could be wrong) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2152 Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, Jdog14 said: That might be one reason why all the LFS orders after 2011 have the Carriers (though I could be wrong) Are the Carriers HVAC more reliable? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2153 Posted July 23, 2018 Just now, JeremiahC99 said: Are the Carriers HVAC more reliable? Wouldn't really know, Someone else may be able to say better than I could. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2154 Posted July 23, 2018 6 hours ago, R32 3838 said: The BP shortage is not because of the hybrids. Its those xd60's, they been having hvac issues hence seeing the orion's pop up on the blvd routes It's actually more of the hybrids. There's quite a few of them OOS with some at the vendor as we speak, hence why XD60s have popped up on the Q64 more often as of late, and one or two have shown up on the Q110. 5 hours ago, Jdog14 said: That might be one reason why all the LFS orders after 2011 have the Carriers (though I could be wrong) They have Mobile Climate Control HVACs. But that's not the point, all the XD60s have ThermoKings, but different compressors. 5987-6125 have TK HVACs with TKX640 compressors. 5364-5438 also have TK HVACs, but with Bitzer 6NFC HVAC compressors. I'm willing to bet that it's moreso the compressors that's been having issues. Baisley Park have also been running their buses into the ground as of late. Last year, it was JFK that was short on artics because of breakdowns and issues, now BP is having issues with them. 5396 came to JFK earlier this year, and it was straight t r a s h, somehow, JFK got that bus running better than ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridgeviewer382 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2155 Posted July 23, 2018 5853 to Hale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdog14 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2156 Posted July 23, 2018 6 hours ago, Cait Sith said: Baisley Park have also been running their buses into the ground as of late. Last year, it was JFK that was short on artics because of breakdowns and issues, now BP is having issues with them. 5396 came to JFK earlier this year, and it was straight t r a s h, somehow, JFK got that bus running better than ever. JFK fixing other depots buses up? That's a surprise to me... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q64 To Forest Hills Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2157 Posted July 23, 2018 6543 is on loan to Baisley again Intersting thing is these loans go back and forth. Last week 6545 was on a Baisley route. The next morning it was apparently on the Q37, and then later that day it was on the Q64 Side note is last night I got 3782, the hybrid that broke down in the Queens-Midtown tunnel on the QM4, that bus sounded terrible. It was making a noise similar to a fan belt screech. The hybrids have not been doing that well, and it doesn’t help that they’re being run constantly. They’re having the problem that west farms had where their buses keep breaking down and they can’t catch up in maintence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Future ENY OP Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2158 Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Q64 To Forest Hills said: 6543 is on loan to Baisley again Intersting thing is these loans go back and forth. Last week 6545 was on a Baisley route. The next morning it was apparently on the Q37, and then later that day it was on the Q64 Side note is last night I got 3782, the hybrid that broke down in the Queens-Midtown tunnel on the QM4, that bus sounded terrible. It was making a noise similar to a fan belt screech. The hybrids have not been doing that well, and it doesn’t help that they’re being run constantly. They’re having the problem that west farms had where their buses keep breaking down and they can’t catch up in maintence. What’s 3782 doing on the QM4 in the first place. Baisley doesn’t have express buses for weekend coverage? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q64 To Forest Hills Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2159 Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Future ENY OP said: What’s 3782 doing on the QM4 in the first place. Baisley doesn’t have express buses for weekend coverage? This was a few weeks ago. Not yesterday. I got 3782 on the q64 22 minutes ago, East New York said: And 3782 on the QM4???????? Don't forget ALL the OG hybrids are over the 12 year service life limit. They are actually doing better than expected seeing as they are not optimized for the higher average speeds of Queens. Yup, Baisley was short on MCIs one morning. Their orange signed ones aren’t doing good either. The greens are supposed to be straight up reserve buses, but they are always running because the oranges are in the shop. Around a week after another hybrid, I believe 3686 also ran on the QM4. My guy at Baisley said it most likely broke down because of the govern on it Edited July 23, 2018 by Q64 To Forest Hills Response left out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2160 Posted July 23, 2018 49 minutes ago, East New York said: And 3782 on the QM4???????? Don't forget ALL the OG hybrids are over the 12 year service life limit. They are actually doing better than expected seeing as they are not optimized for the higher average speeds of Queens. And that includes the 60 OG hybrids assigned to Queens Village? How about the ones in Brooklyn? How are those hybrids doing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2161 Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said: And that includes the 60 OG hybrids assigned to Queens Village? How about the ones in Brooklyn? How are those hybrids doing? He did say all...even though some are a few months shy of hitting the 12 year mark. Edited July 23, 2018 by Cait Sith Damn typos on mobile suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novabus 5000 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2162 Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, East New York said: 1025, 1026 pending to WF 4950, 5044 FB to UP 5188 GA to UP 5397 JK to BP 7484 JA back to NFI 7649 to FB EDIT: Due to the acelleration of both Artic options, all RTS are scheduled to be retired by January 2020. 4918, 5064 FB to Scrap 5082, 5086, 5088, 5098, 5124 retired out of UP 8933, 8994, and 9027 JK to EC pending Scrap. 6543 and 6545 actually haven't left since they were reported. And 3782 on the QM4???????? Don't forget ALL the OG hybrids are over the 12 year service life limit. They are actually doing better than expected seeing as they are not optimized for the higher average speeds of Queens. 3 5397 was never a JFK bus. These were loans, as all 3 buses are back to their respective depots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2163 Posted July 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cait Sith said: He clearly said all. Again, thanks for the clarification. I am hoping for the hybrids to do really well under tough conditions, such as on high speed routes. The last thing i need to se are buses breaking down mid route on important streets like Utica Avenue due to going too fast. Another question to ask, but maybe off topic: MTA as a whole has over 1600 hybrids (exactly 1675 hybrids, though some have been prematurely retired). This makes it the largest fleet of hybrids in the United States. Since the 2003 hybrids will be retired, 125 hybrids will have to subtracted from the 1675 hybrid number, leaving 1550 hybrid buses still in service. Will the MTA lose that distinction of having the largest hybrid fleet in the US, or more hybrids be ordered to keep that distinction, which I really enjoy about the MTA fleet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brillant93 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2164 Posted July 23, 2018 3 hours ago, East New York said: 1025, 1026 pending to WF 4950, 5044 FB to UP 5188 GA to UP 5397 JK to BP 7484 JA back to NFI 7649 to FB EDIT: Due to the acelleration of both Artic options, all RTS are scheduled to be retired by January 2020. The artic options for the L train shuttle and the XD60s if I’m correct? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2165 Posted July 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, Brillant93 said: The artic options for the L train shuttle and the XD60s if I’m correct? yes 36 lfs 60's for the m14 sbs 51 xd60's mch for m15 sbs 57 xd60's to fla for b44 sbs to replace the current 38 lfs witch will be transfered to man or BX. and either the b46sbs or the b44 lcl will transition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2166 Posted July 23, 2018 49 minutes ago, limitednyc said: yes 36 lfs 60's for the m14 sbs 51 xd60's mch for m15 sbs 57 xd60's to fla for b44 sbs to replace the current 38 lfs witch will be transfered to man or BX. and either the b46sbs or the b44 lcl will transition. The 57 buses for Flatbush are for the B44 SBS and the B46 SBS. This will allow for partial conversion of the latter line into articulated operations, which should’ve been done a long time ago. And yes, this is real!!!! 5 hours ago, East New York said: EDIT: Due to the acelleration of both Artic options, all RTS are scheduled to be retired by January 2020. I’m guessing the 2020 date will allow those drivers who like those buses to drive them as much as possible before they have to kiss them goodbye? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limitednyc Posted July 23, 2018 Share #2167 Posted July 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said: I’m guessing the 2020 date will allow those drivers who like those buses to drive them as much as possible before they have to kiss them goodbye? when the 88 xd40's and 36 xd60's can be used in general service 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahC99 Posted July 24, 2018 Share #2168 Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, limitednyc said: when the 88 xd40's and 36 xd60's can be used in general service It’s actually 96 XD40s and 36 LFSAs for the train shuttle operations. I feel like January 2020 is too early for these buses to retire (I'm talking about the RTS, the only bus voted best bus to operate by MTA drivers in Manhattan and Brooklyn many years in a row), since the shutdown will end in July 2020, and those 124 buses (XD40 and LFSA) will still be needed for shuttle service until then. Edited July 24, 2018 by JeremiahC99 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielhg121 Posted July 24, 2018 Share #2169 Posted July 24, 2018 Is 6126 still at CS btw? I know it did one run on the Q44 and then I never saw it after that. Driver training perhaps? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted July 24, 2018 Share #2170 Posted July 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, danielhg121 said: Is 6126 still at CS btw? I know it did one run on the Q44 and then I never saw it after that. Driver training perhaps? Yes. Still there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share #2171 Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Novabus 5000 said: 5397 was never a JFK bus. These were loans, as all 3 buses are back to their respective depots. Actually 5397 was on loan to JK. CS drivers are already trained on the new XD60’s. It’s the same bus save a couple minor spec changes. @danielhg121 Edited July 24, 2018 by East New York 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share #2172 Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) It was definitely there. I’m looking at it right now on the internal roster from last week. @Cait Sith Edited July 24, 2018 by East New York 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastFlatbushLarry Posted July 24, 2018 Share #2173 Posted July 24, 2018 6 hours ago, danielhg121 said: Is 6126 still at CS btw? I know it did one run on the Q44 and then I never saw it after that. Driver training perhaps? i was at Zerega doing 19A yesterday and saw 6126 there. still has CS logos on the bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted July 24, 2018 Share #2174 Posted July 24, 2018 19 hours ago, Q64 To Forest Hills said: This was a few weeks ago. Not yesterday. I got 3782 on the q64 Yup, Baisley was short on MCIs one morning. Their orange signed ones aren’t doing good either. The greens are supposed to be straight up reserve buses, but they are always running because the oranges are in the shop. Around a week after another hybrid, I believe 3686 also ran on the QM4. My guy at Baisley said it most likely broke down because of the govern on it Seems like that depot is a mess. A few years ago we had one of their buses and I was NOT pleased to see it. The inside wasn't filthy per se, but the floor had this weird coating over it. Stayed for maybe a few weeks primarily on the BxM1 and then went back to them, with their stickers on it and all. I find it quite odd that they only have one express line with two branches and they can't keep up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLX9304 Posted July 24, 2018 Share #2175 Posted July 24, 2018 20 hours ago, East New York said: 1025, 1026 pending to WF 4950, 5044 FB to UP 5188 GA to UP 5397 JK to BP 7484 JA back to NFI 7649 to FB EDIT: Due to the acelleration of both Artic options, all RTS are scheduled to be retired by January 2020. 4918, 5064 FB to Scrap 5082, 5086, 5088, 5098, 5124 retired out of UP 8933, 8994, and 9027 JK to EC pending Scrap. 6543 and 6545 actually haven't left since they were reported. And 3782 on the QM4???????? Don't forget ALL the OG hybrids are over the 12 year service life limit. They are actually doing better than expected seeing as they are not optimized for the higher average speeds of Queens. Is another bus like that coming back or JA is ready to accept their new batch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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