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BoltBus NYC Bus Stop to Washington D.C./Baltimore/Greenbelt to move.....

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to 25th Street & 8th Avenue on August 25th.

 

Just read it off Bolt Bus' recent post on their facebook page.

 

More info scrolls on their website: http://www.boltbus.com/

 

o hell NO there is no express train stop there ppl will hate it. I don't like the idea of having to use a local train to reach intercity bus.

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When MegaBus moved to 9th Av/31st St, lots of MegaBus passengers were still waiting at old stop at 31st St/8th Av and they were confused, even site clearly says, 9th Av/31st St on reservation ticket.

 

I think BoltBus riders will do same thing and they don't paid attention to website even thought it properly will clearly state 25th St/8th Av.

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o hell NO there is no express train stop there ppl will hate it. I don't like the idea of having to use a local train to reach intercity bus.

 

Its within friggin walking distance. Grow some legs and use em.

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Its within friggin walking distance. Grow some legs and use em.

 

true I can walk but I was talking from other ppl's point of view.

Not being directly near express trains and being near local trains will reduce popularity

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I sent email maybe BoltBus could hire free shuttle bus/van service from 7th Av/33rd St to 25th St/8th Av or ask MTA to cross honor BoltBus ticket on M7, M20, 34th St-Penn Stations on 7th & 8th Av lines.

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All inter-city buses should be going to the Port Authority bus terminal or an equivilent inter-modal facility. Otherwise, chaos.

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This move didn't happen and BoltBus departures to Washington D.C/Maryland will remain at 33rd Street & 7th Avenue until further notice.

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I agree with Gramps.

I think BoltBus to Washington DC/Maryland could use 41st St bet 6th & 7th Avs where Carefree Bus tours leave.

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This move didn't happen and BoltBus departures to Washington D.C/Maryland will remain at 33rd Street & 7th Avenue until further notice.

 

I guess the move recieved too much opposition!!!! I knew it wasn't gonna fly!! ppl don't want to use local trains to get intercity bus thats how NYC is!!!!

 

I have to say rockland coaches is there an untapped i 95 bronx market??

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I guess the move recieved too much opposition!!!! I knew it wasn't gonna fly!! ppl don't want to use local trains to get intercity bus thats how NYC is!!!!

 

I have to say rockland coaches is there an untapped i 95 bronx market??

That's not the reason.

 

The people in Chelsea didn't want the buses there. Get your facts straight.

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QTJ, here is source.

http://www.dnainfo.com/20110822/midtown/boltbus-booted-from-west-33rd-street

 

BoltBus Booted From West 33rd Street

MIDTOWN — After more than a year of complaints and threats of lawsuits, BoltBus will bolt from its West 33rd Street stop later this week.

 

The company, which provides low-cost trips to cities like Philadelphia and Washington, D.C., announced it will be moving from the congested corner of West 33rd Street and Seventh Avenue to a new stop along a more residential stretch in Chelsea.

 

"BoltBus is excited to announce that effective Thursday, Aug. 25, 2011, we will be relocating our Washington, DC and Baltimore/Greenbelt, MD Service in New York to the northest corner of 24th Street and Eighth Avenue in New York’s historic Chelsea neighborhood," the company’s website reads.

 

Company spokesman Timothy Stokes said the goal was to find a new site that would be convenient to passengers, while minimizing congestion for local businesses.

 

It wasn't unusual to see two to three orange-and-black BoltBus vehicles lined up on West 33rd Street with dozens of passengers and their suitcases crowding the sidewalk, blocking business and subway entrances, and making it nearly impossible for pedestrians to pass.

 

It was a situation Daniel Biederman, president of the 34th Street Partnership, said was “killing our neighborhood" and something the commanding officer of the Midtown South Precinct deemed "disastrous."

 

Stokes acknowledged the overcrowding in a statement saying, "We have been working on a solution for quite some time, and believe this new location will assist in reducing some of that congestion."

 

The last buses are set to depart from the corner at 8:30 p.m. on Wed., Aug. 24.

 

“That’s good news!” said Elizabeth Nelis, a manager at the upscale Stout Irish pub, where staff and owners had expressed serious concerns about the safety of pedestrians, who were often forced to walk in the street because of the traffic on the sidewalk.

 

Businesses along the stretch had also complained that the wall of buses obstructed their storefronts and that crowds blocked their doors and tried to use lobbies and eateries as private waiting and restrooms.

 

Residents and business owners near the new stop — in front of a Rite-Aid on the northeast corner of West 24th Street and Eighth Avenue — were less than enthusiastic to hear the news.

 

The block is a quiet stretch bordered by the Penn South residential co-op, with a local coffee shop, nail salon and dry cleaner. Many store managers said they hadn’t heard about the plan.

 

“You’re kidding,” said Ted Vasquez, 49, a longtime Chelsea resident who lives three blocks from the new stop, while drinking his morning coffee at the Brooklyn Bagel & Coffee Company on the block.

 

Vasquez said the bus stop would undoubtedly add noise and congestion to a mostly residential neighborhood that he said was busy enough.

 

“I can’t imagine that there’s not going to be an uproar,” he said, suggesting 10th Avenue as a better alternative. “It’s going to be really intrusive here.”

 

Anny Park, manager of the Spa Bloomie nail salon, was also shocked to hear about the plan just two days prior to its implementation.

 

“It’s not good for us,” she said, expressing concern that the waiting crowds will interfere with her customers and hurt business.

 

The Department of Transportation, which manages inter-city bus stops, did not immediately respond to a request for comment. A spokesman for Biederman referred comments to the DOT.

 

BoltBus' Boston and Philadelphia service will not be impacted by the move, and will continue to operate from a separate stop at West 34th Street and Eighth Avenue.

 

Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/20110822/midtown/boltbus-booted-from-west-33rd-street#ixzz1WXsbskcL

 

 

 

http://www.dnainfo.com/20110824/chelsea-hells-kitchen/outrage-from-chelsea-block-delays-boltbus-move

 

Outrage From Chelsea Block Delays BoltBus Move

CHELSEA — BoltBus was scheduled to pull up to its new stop on Eighth Avenue, between 24th and 25th Streets, on Thursday, but outcry from Chelsea residents and business owners has delayed the move, according to the Department of Transportation.

 

The coach bus will remain at its current stop on the corner of 33rd Street and Seventh Avenue until BoltBus can meet with Chelsea's community board next month.

 

Many in the neighborhood had no idea that the bus was coming — and didn't want it on their block.

 

"I think it's kind of rude," said Joshua Yaghoobian, owner of Towne House Grooming and Pet Supplies at 288 Eighth Ave, near 25th Street. "It'd disrupt the quaint aspect of Chelsea that we've still got going on."

 

Yaghoobian had not heard about the stop that was planned to park in front of his store until asked about it by DNAinfo. Other business owners in the area were also in the dark.

 

BoltBus, which provides low-cost rides to cities like Philadelphia and Washington, D.C., announced this week it would be moving from the congested corner of West 33rd Street and Seventh Avenue to a new stop along a more residential stretch in Chelsea.

 

The Bolt stop — and the lines, luggage and idling buses that come with it was long a source of complaints in Midtown.

 

Business owners, residents, and community members near the new Chelsea stop are now worried they'll have similar problems.

 

Yaghoobian said a lot of large dogs come by his shop, and he's worried that long lines for the new buses would cause traffic jams and spur barking.

 

"They should go further west," he offered.

 

The stop on Eighth Avenue would be in front of many businesses, including spas, a bagel shop, and a Rite Aid. It's also across the street from Penn South, a large residential co-op.

 

Corey Johnson, chair of Community Board 4, said he was not notified of the move.

 

The Department of Transportation typically consults with local community boards before moving a private bus stop into an area, DOT officials acknowledged, saying the agency would re-assess the stop's location after local leaders give their input.

 

"We are a little perplexed and disappointed that the proper community consultation wasn’t done," Johnson said. "It's a highly residential neighborhood, and Eighth Avenue is already congested enough."

 

Johnson said the board asked the department to delay the move. The board would like to see the stop moved further west, potentially on 34th Street between 11th and 12th Avenues.

 

In a statement, Tim Stokes, a spokesman for BoltBus, said the company was not informed that they should meet with the community board about the move but have asked to be part of its next meeting in September.

 

"We are willing to continue working with the city to continue our search and find a location that is convenient for our customers and that fits into the fabric of the community," he said.

 

BoltBus will meet with CB4's Transportation Planning Committee on September 21st.

 

Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/20110824/chelsea-hells-kitchen/outrage-from-chelsea-block-delays-boltbus-move#ixzz1WXs7KZrb

 

 

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I think I agree with Chelsea residents.

QTJ, do you remember when business owners on 57th St at 3rd Av complaint about MTA and NYCDOT about MTA Express Coach buses that layover because it affected their business according to NY1.

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All inter-city buses should be going to the Port Authority bus terminal or an equivilent inter-modal facility. Otherwise, chaos.

 

There is absolutely NO space in the PABT. The city had a great chance to expand the PABT when there was that open space @ 9th/42nd, now it's too late because they built that hotel.

 

I don't know if they can add levels to the current PABT, but the alternates are start forcing people up to the GWB Bus Terminal or find some where close to the PATH or Secaucus Jct.

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I wonder if Community boards representing Times Sq complains about buses picking up on street like EXPRESS Service, Sphinx and Fuji Express and Carefree Bus Tour.

 

I was wondering maybe Bolt Bus could share bus stop with Carefree Bus Tour at 41st St between Boadway & 7th Av?

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I wonder if Community boards representing Times Sq complains about buses picking up on street like EXPRESS Service, Sphinx and Fuji Express and Carefree Bus Tour.

 

I was wondering maybe Bolt Bus could share bus stop with Carefree Bus Tour at 41st St between Boadway & 7th Av?

 

just drop it 34th is more convenient due to LIRR connections!!!!!!!!!!!

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By the end of the year both of Bolt's Midtown New York stops will have moved from their current locations.

 

That's the only thing that's definite in this situation.

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i wouldnt like the idea of a long distance bus companies bus stop in a residential neighborhood either. I dont even like the idea of a long distance bus company having a bus stop on a sidewalk with no building or nothing. Hell the Cherry Hill Mall Bolt Bus stop is basically NJTs bus stop.

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New York should learn from Boston. City laws there require all bus lines including the 'cut rate' Chinatown ones to operate from the municipal terminal at South Station.

As for the Port Authority, there is the unfinished 4th floor in the North Wing, and there is space above the Lincoln Tunnel plaza for additional expansion if necessary.

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All of that costs money, and a whole lot of it. From the recent fare hikes proposed and passed, the agency cannot absorb such capital expenses with their budget (and we all know the "waste" that may result in such capital investments).

 

Whether we like it or not, curbside operators have taught people in the industry how to reinvent themselves. The terminal in its current form is a dying infrastructure form. There are people who flock to the terminal and need its ceiling and ticket agents, and there are those that do not. The major problem in New York is the perception of PABT that most people have, and for good reason.

The PABT cannot transform into JetBlue's T5 at JFK - nor should it. However, T5 represents what an intermodal 21st Century facility should be - and the implied promise that this new wave of popularity in bus travel brings. The true promise that New York now has in terms of this type of travel terminal is the GWB Bus Station. An intercity carrier will occupy the space in time - just who I do not know, but from what is proposed in the space, this is the change we need.

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Welcome back ML. With this siutation since Bolt is owned by Greyhound the ideal location in Manhattan should either be PABT or in the Penn Station.

However the residents like those in that Chelsa where the proposed move has been on hold have a good point and legit concerns. It's one thing for a casino bus to either Atlantic City or Moeghan Sun 1-2 a day. It's another for buses like Bolt running all day.

 

Problem is there not too many places anyhwhere in Manhattan below 59th Street that is near a major subway station and near either Grand Central or Penn Station that could handle an operation like Bolt.:confused:

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Welcome back ML. With this siutation since Bolt is owned by Greyhound the ideal location in Manhattan should either be PABT or in the Penn Station.

However the residents like those in that Chelsa where the proposed move has been on hold have a good point and legit concerns. It's one thing for a casino bus to either Atlantic City or Moeghan Sun 1-2 a day. It's another for buses like Bolt running all day.

 

Problem is there not too many places anyhwhere in Manhattan below 59th Street that is near a major subway station and near either Grand Central or Penn Station that could handle an operation like Bolt.:confused:

 

Bolt was created by Greyhound specifically to operate from curbside locations to try to preserve Greyhound's market share from further erosion from the cut-rate operators.

So it would be illogical for them to move into the Port and compete with 'themself'.

 

Another suggestion for an alternate site would be somewhere near the Javits Center on 11th and 34th when the new 7 line subway terminal goes into operation. Not many stores or residences there to be impacted....

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