lilbluefoxie Posted August 9, 2011 Share #1 Posted August 9, 2011 I guess its up to me to ask the tough question this time, is the 42 on the a temporary summer thing, or are they going to be on the regularly? Also is it still only one set on there, or is there another as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted August 9, 2011 Share #2 Posted August 9, 2011 Huh? I believe it was mark1447 that recorded a video of an R42 OOS at HB-JFK but I never thought they would be in service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted August 9, 2011 Share #3 Posted August 9, 2011 From what I heard its 1 10 car set running on the from ENY Yard.It's been running IN SERVICE since last week going to the Rockaways and Leff Leff Blvd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted August 9, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted August 9, 2011 From what I heard its 1 10 car set running on the from ENY Yard.It's been running IN SERVICE since last week going to the Rockaways and Leff Leff Blvd. was it a transfer from ENY or does that thing have to go thru the nassau street line and somehow onto the 8 avenue tracks to get in place for the ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 9, 2011 Share #5 Posted August 9, 2011 I guess its up to me to ask the tough question this time, is the 42 on the a temporary summer thing, or are they going to be on the regularly? Also is it still only one set on there, or is there another as well? From what i just heard its only a borrow ENY is shopping 207th's R32's HVAC units, ( i don't know why they can't just swap trains) so that R42 is only temp. also the 14 cars that are in storage is at pitkin yard, so don't be surpised if they pop out ( I hardly doubt it) btw this R42 thats on the runs like complete shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted August 9, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted August 9, 2011 From what i just heard its only a borrow ENY is shopping 207th's R32's HVAC units, ( i don't know why they can't just swap trains) so that R42 is only temp. also the 14 cars that are in storage is at pitkin yard, so don't be surpised if they pop out ( I hardly doubt it) btw this R42 thats on the runs like complete shit I heard those 14 R42s they kept were marked no good for service, unless they can fix em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R32 3838 Posted August 9, 2011 Share #7 Posted August 9, 2011 I heard those 14 R42s they kept were marked no good for service, unless they can fix em? yeah they might not ever come out, they need to be gone lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Young+ Posted August 10, 2011 Share #8 Posted August 10, 2011 was it a transfer from ENY or does that thing have to go thru the nassau street line and somehow onto the 8 avenue tracks to get in place for the ? For something like this to happen, the train has to go South of Broad Street, through the Montague St. tunnel into Brooklyn. Once in Brooklyn, the train has to terminate somewhere and go back North (this can be done at Coney Island, 95 Street, or someplace on the road). Once this is done, the train has to go back North on the or line. If it goes back on the , it can take the normal route except that prior to 145 Street, it takes a bottom green to go to the 207 Street Yard (via the ). If it goes back on the , at West 4th it has to diverge to the 8th Av tracks which go to the 207 Street Yard. Or, the train can leave Coney Island on the (6 Av local), diverge to the (6 Avenue Express), then take the route above to the 207 Street Yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYtransit Posted August 10, 2011 Share #9 Posted August 10, 2011 I guess its up to me to ask the tough question this time, is the 42 on the a temporary summer thing, or are they going to be on the regularly? Also is it still only one set on there, or is there another as well? From what i heard, 2 sets of R32s has been sent to freshpond yard, ether for retiring or other purposes, and that R42 only runs during the AM and PM rush. I caught it entering at 6:16PM at 42nd street, brooklyn bound platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted August 10, 2011 Share #10 Posted August 10, 2011 For something like this to happen, the train has to go South of Broad Street, through the Montague St. tunnel into Brooklyn. Once in Brooklyn, the train has to terminate somewhere and go back North (this can be done at Coney Island, 95 Street, or someplace on the road). Once this is done, the train has to go back North on the or line. If it goes back on the , it can take the normal route except that prior to 145 Street, it takes a bottom green to go to the 207 Street Yard (via the ). If it goes back on the , at West 4th it has to diverge to the 8th Av tracks which go to the 207 Street Yard. Or, the train can leave Coney Island on the (6 Av local), diverge to the (6 Avenue Express), then take the route above to the 207 Street Yard. What? Why do all that When there's the Chrystie St Connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Posted August 10, 2011 Share #11 Posted August 10, 2011 It could also go to Prospect Park via the shuttle and go back via the to 59st/CC, then switch to the express track. For something like this to happen, the train has to go South of Broad Street, through the Montague St. tunnel into Brooklyn. Once in Brooklyn, the train has to terminate somewhere and go back North (this can be done at Coney Island, 95 Street, or someplace on the road). Once this is done, the train has to go back North on the or line. If it goes back on the , it can take the normal route except that prior to 145 Street, it takes a bottom green to go to the 207 Street Yard (via the ). If it goes back on the , at West 4th it has to diverge to the 8th Av tracks which go to the 207 Street Yard. Or, the train can leave Coney Island on the (6 Av local), diverge to the (6 Avenue Express), then take the route above to the 207 Street Yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Train Master Posted August 10, 2011 Share #12 Posted August 10, 2011 For something like this to happen, the train has to go South of Broad Street, through the Montague St. tunnel into Brooklyn. Once in Brooklyn, the train has to terminate somewhere and go back North (this can be done at Coney Island, 95 Street, or someplace on the road). Once this is done, the train has to go back North on the or line. If it goes back on the , it can take the normal route except that prior to 145 Street, it takes a bottom green to go to the 207 Street Yard (via the ). If it goes back on the , at West 4th it has to diverge to the 8th Av tracks which go to the 207 Street Yard. Or, the train can leave Coney Island on the (6 Av local), diverge to the (6 Avenue Express), then take the route above to the 207 Street Yard. It could also go to Prospect Park via the shuttle and go back via the to 59st/CC, then switch to the express track. Did ya forget about the via Chrystie? Just send a 10 car train via the then or to 207th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C Posted August 10, 2011 Share #13 Posted August 10, 2011 From what i heard, 2 sets of R32s has been sent to freshpond yard, ether for retiring or other purposes, They likely went to ENY,maybe for A/C work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted August 10, 2011 Share #14 Posted August 10, 2011 Did ya forget about the via Chrystie? Just send a 10 car train via the then or to 207th. IIRC, the Chrystie is one of those curves that can't take 10 cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42 M Train Posted August 10, 2011 Share #15 Posted August 10, 2011 IIRC, the Chrystie is one of those curves that can't take 10 cars. The amount of cars doesn't affect that. If 8 60 ft cars can pass through, then so can 10, or even 80. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queens Surface Posted August 10, 2011 Share #16 Posted August 10, 2011 IIRC, the Chrystie is one of those curves that can't take 10 cars. Why can't the cut take 10 cars, it's just two more cars than the regular amount being used by the . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38th Street Yard Posted August 10, 2011 Share #17 Posted August 10, 2011 I saw a move from 207st yard to pitkin with the 6 cars 4550-51 4617-16 and the other 2 numbers I forgot but there still there mostly like they had the stickers on the windows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted August 10, 2011 Share #18 Posted August 10, 2011 IIRC, the Chrystie is one of those curves that can't take 10 cars. That is just the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Why would 2 more cars not make the curve while 8 can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted August 10, 2011 Share #19 Posted August 10, 2011 whats going on? doesnt the line have enough R46's?? why am i witnessing Jamaica R46's on the ?? did 200 R32's crap out? if this an issue then idk how R32's are going to hold up until 2017!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted August 10, 2011 Share #20 Posted August 10, 2011 So many diff rumors, it would be nice to have 1 legit source.. Pretty much, idk what the whole purpose of the swapping is for.. For that I would move the R32s to some other line, bump the R46s (Some) from JAM, grab Coney Island R160s and send to to JAM and the R32s go to CI. Watch when the R46s are off the and its back to R32s.. People will be annoyed as hell.. Now they have to go to the 8 car marker or center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIP Posted August 10, 2011 Share #21 Posted August 10, 2011 So many diff rumors, it would be nice to have 1 legit source.. Pretty much, idk what the whole purpose of the swapping is for.. For that I would move the R32s to some other line, bump the R46s (Some) from JAM, grab Coney Island R160s and send to to JAM and the R32s go to CI. Watch when the R46s are off the and its back to R32s.. People will be annoyed as hell.. Now they have to go to the 8 car marker or center. yeah man these equipment swaps are ridiculous and a little unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted August 10, 2011 Share #22 Posted August 10, 2011 The set of R42s that's on the is there because 207th street was short a train for the AM rush and those cars were there getting painted. Those cars (which do not and will not include 4550/51) are not needed right now at ENY, so they are on lone for the time being with no set time of when they will go back. 2 trains of R46s from the JYD fleet are running on the (A)/© because there are alot of R32s that are out of service. The 14 R42s that are in Pitkin will not be coming back since they have been stripping them for parts to keep the other R42s going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted August 10, 2011 Share #23 Posted August 10, 2011 That is just the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Why would 2 more cars not make the curve while 8 can? Probably was thinking of the platform not being able to handle a 10-car train. And speaking of that, can the Essex St platform handle a 600' car train? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted August 10, 2011 Share #24 Posted August 10, 2011 Probably was thinking of the platform not being able to handle a 10-car train. And speaking of that, can the Essex St platform handle a 600' car train? As written, it sounds like he says that the curve of the tracks can't hold a 10 car train as in the curve is too tight. If that's what he meant, then if a 10 car train can go around the curve, neither can an 8 or even 2 car train. Essex St. J2- 531' J3/4- 544'6" J1- 528' Now when it come to equipment transfers, trains 12 51' cars,12 60' cars and 10 75' cars can travel any where within the division they are permitted to operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted August 10, 2011 Share #25 Posted August 10, 2011 Very true. Like posted on several occasions on subchat, there was an R46 at Fresh Pond several decades ago on some fan trip. If they can make it there, then an extra 2 60' cars would not be a big deal. Individual car length would be the issue rather than number of cars. Thanks for the numbers, seems if they were to expand those platforms to 600' lengths, it would be a nightmare... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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