RailBus63 Posted June 5, 2012 Share #201 Posted June 5, 2012 When will MTS actually be ready to start building production buses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 5, 2012 Author Share #202 Posted June 5, 2012 The assembly lines still need to be updated for them to ramp up to full production. Since 1995, Prevost has owned the tooling to make the RTS windows. They even made the ones on all the MTS built buses to date from what I understand. Prevost recently released the tooling to MTS, and it now has to be integrated into the Roswell assembly line. My best guess is that the first production 42.5 foot HF would roll off the line this fall/winter, and the first production 42.5 foot low floor would come about 8 months after that. But don't quote me on that, as contract terms and conditions could change production delivery dates. It also depends on when MTS gets the engineeering demo out to the current prospective high floor customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jragland Posted June 17, 2012 Share #203 Posted June 17, 2012 I really like driving the RTS at Texas A&M i hope that millennium gets everything running smoothly so that we can get more buses from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenPotPie Posted June 19, 2012 Share #204 Posted June 19, 2012 Is there any update on the 2000 buses that one agency wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CT1660- Posted June 20, 2012 Share #205 Posted June 20, 2012 Being a fan of the RTS, it would be cool if the MTA actually buys these buses, but if the MTA actually buys them, would this be an order for NYCT Bus, MTA Bus, or split between the two? I guess only time will tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share #206 Posted June 20, 2012 Is there any update on the 2000 buses that one agency wants? I havent got anymore updates, so I am not sure. Last I heard they wanted them still. Being a fan of the RTS, it would be cool if the MTA actually buys these buses, but if the MTA actually buys them, would this be an order for NYCT Bus, MTA Bus, or split between the two? I guess only time will tell... Bus Test & Evaluation is an NYCT program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share #207 Posted July 4, 2012 Within the next 90 days, it is expected that the first 42.5 foot RTS Express (the frame is currently on the final assembly line) will begin to make its way down the line in preparation for the MTA. MTA has already set forth some of the terms and conditions for this order. These terms and conditions call for 6 pilot buses! After bus #1 is accepted into the program, MTS will build bus #2 for configuration audit. Once the final configuration is approved, buses #3-6 will be built and delivered to the MTA. The delivery schedule has slipped, and is now planned for Winter 2012/2013. (pending Acceptance) Technical Specs & Fleet Numbers. (all information subject to final approval of the MTA) 2500-2589 90 MTS RTS T42-209 "Express" : 42.5 foot, 49 seat high floor, 1 door suburban EPA 2010 Cummins ISL-9 Allison B400R Thermo King ATHENIA roof mount HVAC Hanover Displays "OL" model destination signs 4One suburban high-back seating Vapor slide-glide door Electronic fan drive & cooling system LED stop, tail, auxiliary, marker, and turn signals Classic RTS sealed beam headlamps All wheel disk brakes (80,000 mile break life) with ABS Lift-U front door wheelchair step-lift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GojiMet86 Posted July 4, 2012 Share #208 Posted July 4, 2012 It looks like a robotic version of an RTS. I look foward to riding these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 4, 2012 Share #209 Posted July 4, 2012 I find it interesting how they didn't choose Luminator signs, so they can't edit signs across the board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 4, 2012 Author Share #210 Posted July 4, 2012 I really like driving the RTS at Texas A&M i hope that millennium gets everything running smoothly so that we can get more buses from them You guys have 25 of them with the new Roscoe mirrors. I got a chance to hang out with 634 for the days this past October. I can't believe you guys are still on your original set of brakes! Blew that 80,000 mile guarantee right out of the water! Word on the street is you guys may be getting 10 high floors and 2 low floors as part of the Advanced RTS Validation Program. I can't wait to get down to your facility sometime soon and check out that fleet! I find it interesting how they didn't choose Luminator signs, so they can't edit signs across the board... Looks like the new Luminators will show up on the low floor. Hanovers are Standard on the TA New Flyers, the proposed RTS, and are on 5105-5112, 9444. If nothing has changes, they should be added to more Nova RTS' sometime in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted July 4, 2012 Share #211 Posted July 4, 2012 Ok so the RTS EXP fleet will be 2500-2589 what about a low floor test fleet? <------- EXCELLENT News!!! I guess these are diesels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 5, 2012 Share #212 Posted July 5, 2012 Ok so the RTS EXP fleet will be 2500-2589 what about a low floor test fleet? <------- EXCELLENT News!!! I guess these are diesels? These are diesels. The Low Floors will probably will probably be hybrids... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 5, 2012 Author Share #213 Posted July 5, 2012 These are diesels. The Low Floors will probably will probably be hybrids... The low floors are diesel as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted July 5, 2012 Share #214 Posted July 5, 2012 The low floors are diesel as well. Well that's not good for the environment... I wanted to see an RTS Hybrid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted July 6, 2012 Share #215 Posted July 6, 2012 A B400R in a RTS. Unheard of lol. I can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted July 6, 2012 Share #216 Posted July 6, 2012 Ok so the RTS EXP fleet will be 2500-2589 what about a low floor test fleet? <------- EXCELLENT News!!! I guess these are diesels? These are diesels. The Low Floors will probably will probably be hybrids... Sorry to interrupt gentleman but I've lost track (prob cause I'm a tad bit drunk lol) but who are these RTS' going to? And when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtNovaBusRTS9369 Posted July 6, 2012 Share #217 Posted July 6, 2012 Sorry to interrupt gentleman but I've lost track (prob cause I'm a tad bit drunk lol) but who are these RTS' going to? And when? Nothing has been officially announced yet but I'd estimate for the express RTS it would likely be at least 30 each for an SI depot (since they're likely to get the new MCI's later this year), UP & QV or for a 50/40. The low floor RTS may be split between any three of these depots: ENY, UP, QV, JA or MJQ. As for when the RTS's they're scheduled to arrive next year (LF & HF Demostrators coming in first) of everything goes accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princelex Posted July 6, 2012 Share #218 Posted July 6, 2012 I'm very happy that things are moving along, I just hope that things move that much quicker so that we can get these new RTS's on the road already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted July 7, 2012 Share #219 Posted July 7, 2012 Well that's not good for the environment... I wanted to see an RTS Hybrid... Something of a fact the MTA would rather you didn't know, hybrid buses barely do any better mileage-wise in the city than diesel buses. Has to do with the level of stops and starts in city traffic -- an O7 hybrid has much worse mileage than say, an MCI, and is pretty close to an RTS diesel. And if we're talking CO2, the cleanest burning engines are generally gonna be CNG, not hybrid. It's all part of why all announced upcoming orders are either diesel or CNG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share #220 Posted July 26, 2012 As MTS officially gears up to built their first new bus in 6 years, it was announced today that the new RTS bus will receive an all-new front end design! The lead customer, who is now just ahead of the MTA will receive their first pilot bus in early 2013. Immediately following this bus, the MTA unit, which is currently on the assembly line as well is set to be completed. The all-new front end design will finally bring the RTS into the 21st Century. Bravo Millennium, I knew you could do it! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MTA Bus Qualification Program Preliminary Specifications (Updated 7/26/12) 90 MTS RTS T42-209 "Express" : 42.5 foot, 49 seat high floor, 1 door suburban EPA 2010 Cummins ISL-9 Allison B400R Thermo King Athenia roof mount HVAC Hanover Displays "OL" model destination signs 4One suburban high-back seating Vapor slide-glide door Electronic fan drive & cooling system LED stop, tail, auxiliary, marker, and turn signals All New Front End featuring LED headlamps All wheel disk brakes (80,000 mile break life) with ABS Lift-U front door wheelchair step-lift Once the HF Express passes the mandatory shaker test, MTA has requested that the buses be delivered as followed: 6 Pilot Buses 22 Production Buses (option 1) 60 Production Buses (option 2) Fleet 2500-2589 (Not Confirmed) 90 MTS RTS T42-210 "Extreme" BRT : 42.5 foot, 41-43 seat (62 standee), low floor transit EPA 2013 Cummins ISL-9 w/ a possible Detroit Diesel DD11 option Allison B400R & ZF Ecolife mix (subject to change) Thermo King roof mount HVAC Hanover Displays OL & Luminator Titan destination sign mix (subject to change) 4One transit seating Vapor slide-glide front door, "Class" sensing rear door. Slide-glide or classic swing type Electronic fan drive & cooling system LED stop, tail, auxiliary, marker, and turn signals All New Front End featuring LED headlamps All wheel disk brakes with ABS Lift-U front door swing out wheelchair ramp Base BQP LF Proposal Specs EPA 2013 Cummins ISL-9 Allison B400R Transmission Hanover OL destination signs Vapor slide-glide front door, "Class" sensing rear swing type door 42 Seats Optional BQP LF Specs (subject to change) Detroit Diesel DD11 ZF Ecolife Transmission Carrier roof mount HVAC Luminator Titan destination signs Vapor slide-glide front door, "Class" sensing slide-glide rear door 41-44 seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T J Trainman Posted July 26, 2012 Share #221 Posted July 26, 2012 What kind of a new front end? I guess the low floors could be 2600-2689? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted July 27, 2012 Author Share #222 Posted July 27, 2012 Just an all-new front end. Sketches of a few concepts are complete, but they won't be released to the public. IIRC only prospective cuatomers will see what it looks like before it goes public. Its way too soin to know what the low floor fleet numbers could be. Rumor has it to be somewhere in the 8000's. 2000 numbers normally used for express buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted July 28, 2012 Share #223 Posted July 28, 2012 I'm gonna miss the old narrow door front end, but that WFD front end was real ugly. Also will there continue to be differences in the front end between the narrow and wide front door models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share #224 Posted August 14, 2012 Major Update: MTS is now just about ready to send the first bus for MTA down the assembly line. The only thing holding up the order is confirmation of the shaker table test and the date it will be completed. Once the bus has completed the shaker, and a partial evaluation at Altoona, (MTS RTS T-Drive already Altoona tested and approved) the bus will then be delivered to MTA. As it still stands right now, MTA has requested 6 pilot buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XcelsiorBoii4888 Posted August 14, 2012 Share #225 Posted August 14, 2012 Major Update: MTS is now just about ready to send the first bus for MTA down the assembly line. The only thing holding up the order is confirmation of the shaker table test and the date it will be completed. Once the bus has completed the shaker, and a partial evaluation at Altoona, (MTS RTS T-Drive already Altoona tested and approved) the bus will then be delivered to MTA. As it still stands right now, MTA has requested 6 pilot buses. ok ok ok not bad...but damm 6 pilot buses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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