My Compare Between SBS Bx12 and M15

[FamousNYLover]

Similar Situation:

Serves Tourists Attractions

1. New bus riders and tourists does not understand it acts like subway, SBS vehicles only wait during red light.

2. Both gets stuck in heavey traffic.

 

Difference:

1. Bx12 SBS riders are much more smart than M15 SBS riders.

2. Bx12 SBS Riders learn very quickly about new machine.

3. M15 SBS Riders complain more than Bx12 SBS Riders.

4. Fare Inspectors Occasionally Show Up on M15 SBS, and not on Bx12SBS.

[Gorgor]

Only the downtown M15 gets stuck in traffic usually, because of the SAS construction, 59th Street Ed Crotch Bridge, and the Midtown Tunnel. The uptown is always fast.

 

Just making an educated assumption, but the Bx12 probably gets caught by many more red lights because it's a 2 way street whereas the M15 has timed lights. The M15 usually will only catch one red light (if any) in between stops because it either can't accelerate to 30mph fast enough to make the lights, there's a red light after the stop already, or the cross street has a left turn arrow thus shortening the length of the green light.

 

The Bx12 probably also takes longer at each stop because the buses only have 2 doors with steps as opposed to 3 doors without steps.

[Q43LTD]

Only the downtown M15 gets stuck in traffic usually, because of the SAS construction, 59th Street Ed Crotch Bridge, and the Midtown Tunnel. The uptown is always fast.

 

Just making an educated assumption, but the Bx12 probably gets caught by many more red lights because it's a 2 way street whereas the M15 has timed lights. The M15 usually will only catch one red light (if any) in between stops because it either can't accelerate to 30mph fast enough to make the lights, there's a red light after the stop already, or the cross street has a left turn arrow thus shortening the length of the green light.

 

The Bx12 probably also takes longer at each stop because the buses only have 2 doors with steps as opposed to 3 doors without steps.

The (Bx12) SBS uses the same fleet as the (M15) SBS

[FamousNYLover]

Only the downtown M15 gets stuck in traffic usually, because of the SAS construction, 59th Street Ed Crotch Bridge, and the Midtown Tunnel. The uptown is always fast.

 

Just making an educated assumption, but the Bx12 probably gets caught by many more red lights because it's a 2 way street whereas the M15 has timed lights. The M15 usually will only catch one red light (if any) in between stops because it either can't accelerate to 30mph fast enough to make the lights, there's a red light after the stop already, or the cross street has a left turn arrow thus shortening the length of the green light.

 

The Bx12 probably also takes longer at each stop because the buses only have 2 doors with steps as opposed to 3 doors without steps.

Bx12SBS takes longer with Orchard Beach traffic during summer, University Heights Bridge-207th St traffic, illegal parking on narrow Isham St.

[King Of RedBirds]

Similar Situation:

Serves Tourists Attractions

1. New bus riders and tourists does not understand it acts like subway, SBS vehicles only wait during red light.

2. Both gets stuck in heavey traffic.

 

Difference:

1. Bx12 SBS riders are much more smart than M15 SBS riders.

2. Bx12 SBS Riders learn very quickly about new machine.

3. M15 SBS Riders complain more than Bx12 SBS Riders.

4. Fare Inspectors Occasionally Show Up on M15 SBS, and not on Bx12SBS.

 

Hey 1,2 and 4 are so right 3 The problem with that is 1/2 the riders are stupid and never rode it and try to use the metro card on the machine there are Advertisments all over the saying how to ride. 1/2 the riders are daily riders and know everything.

[GreatOne2k]

Bx12SBS takes longer with Orchard Beach traffic during summer, University Heights Bridge-207th St traffic, illegal parking on narrow Isham St.

 

Bx12 SBS doesn't run to Orchard Beach anymore

[FamousNYLover]

Bx12 SBS doesn't run to Orchard Beach anymore

I know.

I meant Fordham Rd-Pelham Parkway gets Orchard Beach traffic.

[FamousNYLover]

Both Co-Op City-bound Bx12SBS and 126th St Depot-bound M15SBS does not have machines at 2nd last stop.

[Cait Sith]

Only the downtown M15 gets stuck in traffic usually, because of the SAS construction, 59th Street Ed Crotch Bridge, and the Midtown Tunnel. The uptown is always fast.

 

Just making an educated assumption, but the Bx12 probably gets caught by many more red lights because it's a 2 way street whereas the M15 has timed lights. The M15 usually will only catch one red light (if any) in between stops because it either can't accelerate to 30mph fast enough to make the lights, there's a red light after the stop already, or the cross street has a left turn arrow thus shortening the length of the green light.

 

The Bx12 probably also takes longer at each stop because the buses only have 2 doors with steps as opposed to 3 doors without steps.

 

That assumption is somewhat accurate, except the Bx12 has a slight edge with its traffic signal priority, which the M15 SBS does not have (yet). After Fordham Plaza going to 207th, it would get caught at some lights because of traffic.