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New Bus Qualification Program Overview


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The mta.png New Bus Qualification Program Overview (Formerly Bus Test & Evaluation Program)

 

Each of the three models in the 40' NBQP Program will be equipped with EPA 2010 compliant Cummins ISL power plants. Each bus model will be subject to fuel economy and dynamometer tests, as well as specification compliance and performance testing.

 

Major areas such as fuel economy fleet availability, reliability, maintenance costs, and vendor responsiveness will be monitored for a 12 month period.

 

The results of the program testing will be incorporated into the evaluation criteria of a future RFP for the upcoming 40 foot diesel bus requirement.

 

The 45', and 60' test programs will be carried out similar to the 40' program.

 

 

Main categories for the test program include, but are not limited to:

Unit Costs

Performance

Fuel Economy/Emissions

Maintenance/Costs/MDBF

Unscheduled Maintenance

Major Subsystem evaluation

Optional Equipment evaluation

Driver response

Customer response

NY State build content

 

 

 

Novabus LFS $40,454,918 est.

-60 standard configuration($446,000), ZF Ecolife 6AP1200B, Carrier HVAC, hydraulic cooling system, and sealed beam headlamps.

-15 optional configuration($446,809), ZF Ecolife 6AP1200B, Carrier HVAC, electronic cooling system, and sealed beam headlamps.

-15 optional configuration($453,319), Allison B400R, Thermo King HVAC, hydraulic cooling system, and sealed beam headlamps.

-$40,261,830 for 90 buses.

-$67,240 for qualified testing, manuals, and diagnostic tools.

-$45,000 for tailpipe emission profile testing.

-$80,848 for training

*Delivery Complete

*Fleet 8000-8089

 

 

 

New Flyer XD40 $39,225,880 est.

-75 standard configuration($430,269), Allison B400R, Thermo King HVAC, hydraulic cooling system, LED headlamps, disk brakes

-15 optional configuration($446,809),Allison B400R, Thermo King HVAC, electronic cooling system, LED headlamps, disk brakes.

-$38,799,060 for 90 buses.

-$275,000 for qualified testing, manuals, and diagnostic tools.

-$45,000 for tailpipe emission profile testing.

-$106,820 for training

*Delivery Complete

*Fleet 4810-4899

 

 

 

Orion VII E10 "3G" $40,327,525 est.

-75 standard configuration($442,572), ZF Ecolife 6AP1200B, Thermo King HVAC, reciprocating compressor, S-cam brakes

-15 optional configuration($448,750),ZF Ecolife 6AP1200B, Thermo King HVAC, screw compressor, disk brakes.

-$39,924,150 for 90 buses.

-$287,315 for qualified testing, manuals, and diagnostic tools.

-$45,000 for tailpipe emission profile testing.

-$71,060 for training

*Delivery Complete, Model Discontinued, and withdrawn from Bus Test & Evaluation

*Fleet 7000-7089

 

 

 

45' BT&E Program

 

Prevost X3-45 $50,708,201 est.

90 standard configuration, VOLVO D13 W/SCR 13L-435 HP, 1650 lb. ft. torque output (2250 NM) at 1100 rpm, Allison World, 4th Generation, 6-Speed Auto. Trans., MCC/Carrier HVAC, All-Wheel Disk Brakes with Antilock Braking System (ABS), LED Stop, Tail, Marker Lights & Turn Signals.

-$49,950,946 for 90 buses @ $549,568 each

-$353,880 for structural integrity testing.

-$287,315 for qualified testing, manuals, and diagnostic tools.

-$45,000 for tailpipe emission profile testing.

-$71,060 for training

*Delivery Complete

*Fleet 2400-2489

 

 

 

 

60' BT&E Program

 

New Flyer XD60 $63,689,941 est.

-75 standard configuration articulated buses. Allison B400R, Thermo King HVAC, hydraulic cooling system, LED headlamps, disk brake

-15 optional configuration buses, featuring a ZF Ecolife 6AP1200B transmission.

*Pilot delivered July 2012 (originally #1000)

*Final Depot assignments to be anounced

*Fleet 4710-4799

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Nova Bus TL-40102A

• 8000-8029: Castleton

• 8030-8059: Ulmer Park

• 8060-8089: Queens Village

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Photo Courtesy Above

 

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Orion 07.501 "3G" EPA10

• 7000-7029: Queens Village

• 7030-7059: Ulmer Park

• 7060-7089: Castleton

NYCB_Orion_7001b.jpg

Photo Courtesy T. Logan Jr.

 

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New Flyer "Xcelsior" XD40

• 4810-4839: Queens Village

• 4840-4869: Ulmer Park

• 4870-4899: Castleton

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Photo Courtesy R44 CNG

 

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Prevost X3-45 Commuter Coach

• 2400-2439: Yukon

• 2440-2489: Yukon

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Photo Courtesy Curtis A. Roach

 

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New Flyer XD60

• 4710-4739:

• 4740-4769:

• 4770-4799:

DSC00962.jpgPhoto Courtesy East New York (Dante)

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They're getting a good deal on those Orion 3Gs, usually they're each worth more. Gonna be great seeing them out of Queens Village, who doesn't have any NGs I believe. Any idea where the pilot will be sent first? or is that a surprise? lol

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They're getting a good deal on those Orion 3Gs, usually they're each worth more. Gonna be great seeing them out of Queens Village, who doesn't have any NGs I believe. Any idea where the pilot will be sent first? or is that a surprise? lol

 

I believe Castleton since they're supposed to get the first batch.

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Nice update BUT I think the order of Prevost is YUKON and Charleston, unless if that has changed.

 

Thanks! That was a typo.

 

They're getting a good deal on those Orion 3Gs, usually they're each worth more. Gonna be great seeing them out of Queens Village, who doesn't have any NGs I believe. Any idea where the pilot will be sent first? or is that a surprise? lol

 

I believe Castleton since they're supposed to get the first batch.

 

The pilot is awaiting acceptance, and will be at Zerega this evening or tomorrow morning.

 

The depot assignment order may change because the XD40's will be delivered simultaneously. I'll look into it tomorrow.

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If the assignments are subject to change and I would do the placements I would put 4810-4839 @ Ulmer Park, 4840-4869 @ Queens Village & 4870-4899 @ Castleton. 7000-7029 @ Queens Village, 7030-7059 @ Castleton & 7060-7089 @ Ulmer Park. See the difference and I do go out alot FYI. lol

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Updated assignment is:

 

New Flyer XD40

4810-4839 to Queens Village

4840-4869 to Ulmer Park

4870-4899 to Castleton

 

Orion 07.501

7000-7029 to Castleton

7030-7059 to Ulmer Park

7060-7089 to Queens Village

 

Prevost X3-45

2400-2439 to Ulmer Park

2440-2464 to Yukon

2465-2489 to Charleston

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Updated assignment is:

 

New Flyer XD40

4810-4839 to Queens Village

4840-4869 to Ulmer Park

4870-4899 to Castleton

 

Orion 07.501

7000-7029 to Castleton

7030-7059 to Ulmer Park

7060-7089 to Queens Village

 

Prevost X3-45

2400-2439 to Queens Village

2440-2464 to Yukon

2465-2489 to Charleston

 

Just like I thought....I wonder which set of specs would come on the Orion VIIs first?

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Updated assignment is:

 

New Flyer XD40

4810-4839 to Queens Village

4840-4869 to Ulmer Park

4870-4899 to Castleton

 

Orion 07.501

7000-7029 to Castleton

7030-7059 to Ulmer Park

7060-7089 to Queens Village

 

Prevost X3-45

2400-2439 to Ulmer Park

2440-2464 to Yukon

2465-2489 to Charleston

 

Alright, two new buses for Queens Village! SCORE!!!

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Updated assignment is:

 

New Flyer XD40

4810-4839 to Queens Village

4840-4869 to Ulmer Park

4870-4899 to Castleton

 

Orion 07.501

7000-7029 to Castleton

7030-7059 to Ulmer Park

7060-7089 to Queens Village

 

Prevost X3-45

2400-2439 to Ulmer Park

2440-2464 to Yukon

2465-2489 to Charleston

 

Thanks, man. Now I know where to hunt this sexy bus down. :P

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I have 2 questions.

1. When the evaluation is over, does the (MTA) get to keep all the buses they evaluated?

2. Is the best bus batch-ordered after evaluation?

 

I've ask that question before and someone told me yes. The MTA will keep these buses because they were paid for.

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So 2400s going to stay at Ulmer Park untill its pilot testing is over, then head to QV?

 

Why can't they let UP start off the 07's I guess we get the X3-45 first I will take it. Has UP every beeen the first to start a local order ?

 

UP hasn't had new local buses in more than a decade, so I think them getting them first is not even important. Let's just thank God they are getting anything at all!:cool:

 

I have 2 questions.

1. When the evaluation is over, does the (MTA) get to keep all the buses they evaluated?

2. Is the best bus batch-ordered after evaluation?

 

1. Yes, the MTA owns them.

 

2. More or less yes. There will be a wide range of criteria the MTA will look over. Most all of which is explained on the first page of this thread.

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So 2400s going to stay at Ulmer Park untill its pilot testing is over, then head to QV?

 

 

I thought UP is getting the prevosts first. Of course this is the MTA anything is subject to change. Prevosts to QV??? If this is true, I'm not too ;) about this.

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I thought UP is getting the prevosts first. Of course this is the MTA anything is subject to change. Prevosts to QV??? If this is true, I'm not too ;) about this.

 

I thought the Prevost order was just a UP and Staten Island affair... *shrugs*

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