East New York Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share #51 Posted November 6, 2011 LOL @ Cait Sith Allison H 50EP? bout time. Something other than a BAE drive The Allison EP system is the only diesel hybrid system offered on NF, NABI, and Nova artics. Until recently, BAE was an Orion exclusive. I don't think they even offer a system for artics yet. Man, missed this thread, this got me good!! Love those buses from Boston, but never, ever expected to see them here. Definitely looking forward to those on the M14, I've been by that route for every part of my life and I remember RTSes, the first D60s, the 5700 series D60s, and now it's gonna be LFSAs and DE60s too! I'll take it! I gotta say I like what I'm seeing about 100th, that's gonna be a phenomenal mix of buses with the D60HFs, DE60LFRs, and LFSAs too. Sub-optimal at Quill to see those 5300s die, but I'll happily take these DE60s over the 5600 series, which has gotta be my least favorite New Flyer product of all time. All that said, in general just glad to see the MTA back into New Flyer, nice to see we're gonna have a legit diverse fleet with Orion, Novabus, and New Flyer running local service. I've been in love with Allisons ever since they were mated to 6v92s on the first RTSes, great to see them back in business too. MTA, they'll throw you a curveball every once and a while and sometimes it's a real good surprise. Allison never went anywhere though. It's always been the New Flyer standard transmission option, and the EP hybrid is the most widely used hybrid system out there. ZF has been taking a big share of the market over the years and are about to start competing in the hybrid market in the coming months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted November 6, 2011 Share #52 Posted November 6, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share #53 Posted November 6, 2011 Not back in business as in out of the market but back at the MTA, you look at the LFSAs and LFSes mainly ZF, the next 418 LFSes and LFSAs all ZF, then all the BAE buses recently, it's just good to see an Allisons back in the game between the DE60s, XD40s and the C40LFs. I figured that's what you meant right after I posted too. Lol. Yeah, the ZF Nova and Orion's standard option. That's why you see those on majority of their buses. As far as hybrid, it was only recently offered on Orion products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R22 Shoal Point Posted November 6, 2011 Share #54 Posted November 6, 2011 The Allison EP system is the only diesel hybrid system offered on NF, NABI, and Nova artics. Until recently, BAE was an Orion exclusive. I don't think they even offer a system for artics yet. Not until recently. BAE just launched the HybriDrive for artics last month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R42 M Train Posted November 6, 2011 Share #55 Posted November 6, 2011 Now I can't wait to see these in NYC!! Wait, what's the The Tuskegee Airmen Depo? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 6, 2011 Share #56 Posted November 6, 2011 Now I can't wait to see these in NYC!! Wait, what's the The Tuskegee Airmen Depo? :confused: Its 100th Depot that's the new name for it when the remodeling is finished! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted November 6, 2011 Share #57 Posted November 6, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 6, 2011 Share #58 Posted November 6, 2011 Remodeling? When? Used to be Tuskegee before as well. And when it used called Tuskegee? From what I read they wasn't going to change the name from 100th Street from Tuskegee Airmen back in Feburary of last year (IIRC) until they finished remodeling the building! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted November 6, 2011 Share #59 Posted November 6, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
via White Plains Road Posted November 6, 2011 Share #60 Posted November 6, 2011 Oh so they gonna change it back to Tuskegee? Cause it was Tuskegee from when it re-opened around 2002 or so to a few years ago IIRC. It was still called 100th Street when it re-opened back 2003! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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via White Plains Road Posted November 7, 2011 Share #62 Posted November 7, 2011 My bad, was thinking of something else. It became TA in what, 2009 and then it quickly got switched back to 100th, and now we're back to TA. I don't think I ever saw a TA sticker though? I don't think the sticker was made yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share #63 Posted November 7, 2011 Not until recently. BAE just launched the HybriDrive for artics last month. Ah thanks. I still haven't finished digesting the 5 bags worth of stuff from APTA. I still haven't had a chance to dive into these Voith and ZF hybrids that were launched. I know its some interesting stuff in there, but I'm stretched so thin I can't even enjoy actually reading the stuff. And BAE had the best bag at the show! It was bio-degradeable, and very strong. That makes me wonder if some of these LFR's might come with BAE's then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted November 7, 2011 Share #64 Posted November 7, 2011 i hope they fixed those problems that the D60's had when they were new (water leaking onto the rear door multiplexer box in the top rear corner of the bus). I also see from the picture that it looks like it has three doors. Any chance that they did the smart thing and went high floor after the second door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChickenPotPie Posted November 7, 2011 Share #65 Posted November 7, 2011 i hope they fixed those problems that the D60's had when they were new (water leaking onto the rear door multiplexer box in the top rear corner of the bus). I also see from the picture that it looks like it has three doors. Any chance that they did the smart thing and went high floor after the second door? Extending the raised section to the second door would require a major redesign of much of the bus. I doubt the MTA has the money to request such a drastic change to an already-proven design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 7, 2011 Author Share #66 Posted November 7, 2011 i hope they fixed those problems that the D60's had when they were new (water leaking onto the rear door multiplexer box in the top rear corner of the bus). I also see from the picture that it looks like it has three doors. Any chance that they did the smart thing and went high floor after the second door? I guess only time will really tell. A few of the customers for the new Xcelsior, and one of my contacts have reported leaking issues on buses. Hopefully this has already been addressed. See below... Extending the raised section to the second door would require a major redesign of much of the bus. I doubt the MTA has the money to request such a drastic change to an already-proven design. This is correct. The low floor extends all the way to the back as normal. It would be extremely difficult and costly to change this, and New Flyer has already stated they have no intentions whatsoever of making high floor buses again. Remember what happened with the MTA and New Flyer over the D60HF's that were supposed to be 5700-58XX? Not only that, but the LFR is slated to end production in or around 2013 anyway. MTA is currently taking delivery of the last production LF's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Posted November 8, 2011 Share #67 Posted November 8, 2011 I don't think the sticker was made yet! The sticker was made in 2009, but like stated, they delayed the renaming of the garage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova RTS 9147 Posted November 8, 2011 Share #68 Posted November 8, 2011 The sticker was made in 2009, but like stated, they delayed the renaming of the garage.... Are they suppose to rebuild the garage prior to the name changing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted November 8, 2011 Share #69 Posted November 8, 2011 You are not the only one! Trust and believe that one! I NEVER thought I would see LFR's in the city! LF CNG's, Xcelsior Diesels, and LFR Artics..... Yeah, Imma have a moment too!B) Still with Xcelsior Artic Diesels due in late 2013/early 2014....... SMH Wasnt Brampton Ontario getting Xcelsior artics for next year for their Zum BRT service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted November 8, 2011 Share #70 Posted November 8, 2011 Are they suppose to rebuild the garage prior to the name changing? That depot was just rebuilt and reopened around '03... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 8, 2011 Author Share #71 Posted November 8, 2011 Wasnt Brampton Ontario getting Xcelsior artics for next year for their Zum BRT service? Yes they are. I have been patiently waiting to see them in revenue service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted November 9, 2011 Share #72 Posted November 9, 2011 Yes they are. I have been patiently waiting to see them in revenue service. Well Brampton has loved both their Diesel and Hybrid 40 footers so far and have ordered more on top of the artics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share #73 Posted November 9, 2011 Well Brampton has loved both their Diesel and Hybrid 40 footers so far and have ordered more on top of the artics You're talking about the Xcelsiors right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted November 9, 2011 Share #74 Posted November 9, 2011 You're talking about the Xcelsiors right? Yes lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionFlyer Posted November 9, 2011 Share #75 Posted November 9, 2011 Wow! It just gets better and better! So now it's XD60s and DE60lFRs? Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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