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[qjtransitmaster]

Dunno. The amount of times I driven the 126H (I call it the H since it goes to Hamilton Park), there was only stragglers on the bus. Dunno if that is a good idea. Plus, from the way the cars are parked, it's incredible that there hasn't been any accidents using NOVA's, NABI's, FLEX's, and MCI's (And I mean the 45's.....why on earth NJT would allow a 45 in that tight area during the rush, I'll never know)

 

wow it must be really bad do you think they should add more subways there???

[Neoplan 3427]

I had some of my ideas.

 

468 to Wilmington ( I know some people needs to get to Wilmington to work) or 423 (Returns) to Wilmington Train Station connecing with Amtrak, Wilmington/Newark Line, Greyhound and DART buses, and Rodney Square. Since there are no bus conncet in my area due to the budget cuts. 423 had picked up people everyday since the service cuts.

[mfs NJT459]

don't get 553_Bridgeton started with the 423

[qjtransitmaster]

I had some of my ideas.

 

468 to Wilmington ( I know some people needs to get to Wilmington to work) or 423 (Returns) to Wilmington Train Station connecing with Amtrak, Wilmington/Newark Line, Greyhound and DART buses, and Rodney Square. Since there are no bus conncet in my area due to the budget cuts. 423 had picked up people everyday since the service cuts.

How about we let DART have a crack at it if they have the BALLZ to try it via extension of DART 1 to salem via 468 rting then cut 468 and add service to 401 so former 468 ppl can use 401 instead. It WILL ONLY WORK IF IT'S A LONG DISTANCE CROSS ROUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As those would create a grid-like system within gloucester and cumberland/ salem in a way read my previous post about new routes and you will know what I mean.

don't get 553_Bridgeton started with the 423

 

SO true the 423 and it's route and service levels heck everything about the 423 was EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UTTERLY USELESS. Heck I can think of a few more USELESS ROUTES one the 753 and 181(waiting for sirlapolka rant) hmm what else o wait the drumroll plz 772!!!!! It is now utter trash at least it's offpeak service. Ohh don't even get me started on the morris county FAIL LINES!!!!!!!! Everytime I went to morris to secret shop without using a car I can't remember one time when I needed those MCM crap lines. If you want to see what useless looks like click here http://ridewise.org/downloads/CAT-1R_5-2011.pdf and here http://www.co.ocean.nj.us/WebContentFiles/5e525605-db83-44fe-a669-c72fcc6b5cf1.pdf you would think service to long beach would be frequent but look at the link you will be horrified

[DaTransitMan4608]

http://ridewise.org/downloads/CAT-1R_5-2011.pdf and here http://www.co.ocean.nj.us/WebContentFiles/5e525605-db83-44fe-a669-c72fcc6b5cf1.pdf you would think service to long beach would be frequent but look at the link you will be horrified

 

ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, WE GET IT!!! You don't like OceanRide. Sorry for the harshness ,but the constant rants about it are starting to make me angry.

 

Gonna add a lil twist to this thread, now you guys dont have to, but if you want to, you can choose which NJT bus you would run on your fictional line(s). The bus can be of any manufacturer of your choice. Have fun!

[qjtransitmaster]

ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, WE GET IT!!! You don't like OceanRide. Sorry for the harshness ,but the constant rants about it are starting to make me angry.

 

Gonna add a lil twist to this thread, now you guys dont have to, but if you want to, you can choose which NJT bus you would run on your fictional line(s). The bus can be of any manufacturer of your choice. Have fun!

 

understood I wanted to get ur reaction to the schedules though

[SirJokaPlaya]

You got more than a reaction dude.

[mfs NJT459]

Gonna add a lil twist to this thread, now you guys dont have to, but if you want to, you can choose which NJT bus you would run on your fictional line(s). The bus can be of any manufacturer of your choice. Have fun!

 

312 - Vanhool TD925 Doubledecker buses with similar paint scheme as is multilevel rail cars

AND/OR

 

Prevost

[553 Bridgeton]

312 - Vanhool TD925 Doubledecker buses with similar paint scheme as is multilevel rail cars

 

 

You like those death traps lol?

[Q101 E Midtown]

I have some new routes

 

105 Hudson Mall-PABT via Montgomery Street/Western Hoboken

44G Stony Point-GWB via NJ Route 4/Pascack Road/NY Route 304/US Route 9W

44M Spring Valley-PABT(Other times)/Lower Manhattan(Rush-hours) via Pascack Road/NY Route 59

 

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[qjtransitmaster]

I have some new routes

 

105 Hudson Mall-PABT via Montgomery Street/Western Hoboken

44G Stony Point-GWB via NJ Route 4/Pascack Road/NY Route 304/US Route 9W

44M Spring Valley-PABT(Other times)/Lower Manhattan(Rush-hours) via Pascack Road/NY Route 59

 

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doesn't red and tan already run rtes that do just that???

[Q101 E Midtown]

doesn't red and tan already run rtes that do just that???

 

*That's no direct link from Route 304 to GWB

*Pascack Road is only served in peak direction by Rockland Coaches' route 47 down to Washington Township. where as the 44G/M will serve Pascack Road down to Paramus Park Mall and Garden State Plaza(as Fariview Ave or Fariview Road)

*Not Rockland Coaches line serves Lower Manhattan.

[qjtransitmaster]

*That's no direct link from Route 304 to GWB

*Pascack Road is only served in peak direction by Rockland Coaches' route 47 down to Washington Township. where as the 44G/M will serve Pascack Road down to Paramus Park Mall and Garden State Plaza(as Fariview Ave or Fariview Road)

*Not Rockland Coaches line serves Lower Manhattan.

 

good then they can simply run #47 all day but it's off peak service will serve paramus park mall and garden state plaza. Let 47 become bidirectional the 11a's segment duplicates parts of 165 and the PVL trains so a reroute may be needed with another line to keep 11a rting to spring valley

[SirJokaPlaya]

Now, when I say this, I mean this with the upmost respect guys.

 

I've done the 181 and 188. I've been on the 171, 175, and 178 with my friends at Market Street. The issue is that there's really nobody for GWB. I mean, I have to be honest. NJT or any company for that matter won't place buses in a place where there is no real need. It's a waste of money, tolls ($12 I last heard), and gas. The amount of times that I've done the 181 and 188, 75% was to cross the bridge and the rest to just get to maybe Fort Lee or Palisades Park/Edgewater. Granted, the summer time and winter times, it can get busy since Edgewater (188) and Garden State Plaza (171, 175) for shoppers, but there's no bodies. No people, no cash - no cash - no money for fuel and other items needed - meaning why have service where it's not needed? Sometimes, I wonder when will NJT pull out of the GWB station? Yes, I know people like the direct service to 178th street instead of taking a PA-42nd street bus and taking a subway to the 100's but I dunno. 171, 175, 178, 181, 182, 186, 188 - Seven lines. I dunno.

[qjtransitmaster]

Now, when I say this, I mean this with the upmost respect guys.

 

I've done the 181 and 188. I've been on the 171, 175, and 178 with my friends at Market Street. The issue is that there's really nobody for GWB. I mean, I have to be honest. NJT or any company for that matter won't place buses in a place where there is no real need. It's a waste of money, tolls ($12 I last heard), and gas. The amount of times that I've done the 181 and 188, 75% was to cross the bridge and the rest to just get to maybe Fort Lee or Palisades Park/Edgewater. Granted, the summer time and winter times, it can get busy since Edgewater (188) and Garden State Plaza (171, 175) for shoppers, but there's no bodies. No people, no cash - no cash - no money for fuel and other items needed - meaning why have service where it's not needed? Sometimes, I wonder when will NJT pull out of the GWB station? Yes, I know people like the direct service to 178th street instead of taking a PA-42nd street bus and taking a subway to the 100's but I dunno. 171, 175, 178, 181, 182, 186, 188 - Seven lines. I dunno.

GWB caters to bronx bound ppl from northern NJ. What is missing is direct to LGA via GWB however I'd rather shortline or rockland coaches try it. If GWB had no demand then there won't be jitney vans making a killing off of it. The subway to 100s is only practical if you are entering from south or central NJ. Heck the weak lines are the duplicates 181 and thats all. 186 may benefit by being taken off of teaneck and merging with NJT 756 while 756 east of teaneck can get axed. The 166 and 167 are crazy frequent and need no other lines on their corridors. One 753 and 772 are mostly useless then you probably already know. The heavy traffic on I-95 in bronx if coachusa can figure out where those ppl are heading then they can be sitting on a gold mine. Heck if GWB is so low demand why not have a terminal somewhere in the bronx to link with mta q44 and other major lines it can if done right help boost ridership on the SL LI service as well as trailways

[theaveragejoe]

You like those death traps lol?

 

They arent that bad if you ever rode them.

[553 Bridgeton]

They arent that bad if you ever rode them.

 

Im talking about from the drivers pov.

[qjtransitmaster]

good then they can simply run #47 all day but it's off peak service will serve paramus park mall and garden state plaza. Let 47 become bidirectional the 11a's segment duplicates parts of 165 and the PVL trains so a reroute may be needed with another line to keep 11a rting to spring valley

 

rte 304 to GWB NO PROBLEM use SVL to anderson street several trains are TIMED with NJT 175 to GWB. Or to new bridge landing take first bus you see on rte 4 done

[qjtransitmaster]

Im talking about from the drivers pov.

 

I guess my NJ ideas make more sense than the NYC ones. PPL seemed to love my long range upstate ones at apta. I guess I need to stick with long range planning and systems.

[Q101 E Midtown]

rte 304 to GWB NO PROBLEM use SVL to anderson street several trains are TIMED with NJT 175 to GWB. Or to new bridge landing take first bus you see on rte 4 done

 

That's fine if you're in walking distance of the 11C or 11A Spring Valley branch. However, along Route 304 north of NY Route 59, you'll have to transfer to the 11C or a 9A that serves GWB, or take the 11A Stony Point branch to transfer to a NJT bus to GWB.

 

I wonder if Rockland Coaches considered a route along Pascack Road to serve Paramus Park Mall and Garden State Plaza.

[FamousNYLover]

GoBus Route # not available yet.

With Permission from NYCDOT, NYSDOT, PANY&NJ, install GoBus shelters along S89 route and campus stop.

Operates between Newark Airport and College of Staten Island via Bayoone 34th St HBLR Station.

2 zone divided at Bayoone 34th St HBLR Station.

GoBus Stops: EWR GoBus28 Bus Stops, S89 Stops from 34th St HBLR Station to Victory Blvd, then non-stop to College of Staten Island.

Please zoom out to see route.

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[qjtransitmaster]

That's fine if you're in walking distance of the 11C or 11A Spring Valley branch. However, along Route 304 north of NY Route 59, you'll have to transfer to the 11C or a 9A that serves GWB, or take the 11A Stony Point branch to transfer to a NJT bus to GWB.

 

I wonder if Rockland Coaches considered a route along Pascack Road to serve Paramus Park Mall and Garden State Plaza.

 

already doable via the train or NJT bus then transfer to minibus or 171 done look here http://www.dougandadrienne.info/njbus/indexnnj.html

 

 

I made NJT plan based on this data and ridership data I was fed I updated it to include coordination with MTA SI network or even long distance a bit.

[qjtransitmaster]

GoBus Route # not available yet.

With Permission from NYCDOT, NYSDOT, PANY&NJ, install GoBus shelters along S89 route and campus stop.

Operates between Newark Airport and College of Staten Island via Bayoone 34th St HBLR Station.

2 zone divided at Bayoone 34th St HBLR Station.

GoBus Stops: EWR GoBus28 Bus Stops, S89 Stops from 34th St HBLR Station to Victory Blvd, then non-stop to College of Staten Island.

Please zoom out to see route.

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That is just an extension of go28 DONE

[qjtransitmaster]

That's fine if you're in walking distance of the 11C or 11A Spring Valley branch. However, along Route 304 north of NY Route 59, you'll have to transfer to the 11C or a 9A that serves GWB, or take the 11A Stony Point branch to transfer to a NJT bus to GWB.

 

I wonder if Rockland Coaches considered a route along Pascack Road to serve Paramus Park Mall and Garden State Plaza.

 

err why not add fulltime 49 service via there or reroute 11A eliminating duplication of services.

[FamousNYLover]

That is just an extension of go28 DONE

Sorry to tell you, it`s not extention of GoBus#28.

I`m creating new GoBus between Newark Airport and College of SI via Bayoone-34th St HBLR Station, so maybe students and employees living in these areas could have direct access.

Also student going on vacation that requires airplane, they could go directly with this new line.

There will be TSP signal in EWR, Bayonne, and along S89 bus route to speed both GoBus, S89 Bus and Transport Athuma along the routes.