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Gorgor

Fare Inspectors and Sleeping Passengers?

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I'm just curious what the policy with this is.

 

I've only experienced the "thrill" of fare inspectors halting the bus for a good 5 minutes or so to check everyone's tickets, but what's the policy if a passenger is sleeping? I ask this because the other day I was on the M15 and it was late at night so I had my eyes closed and I was half asleep. I had my iPod on so I couldn't hear much, but the bus was at a stop with the doors open for about 5 minutes so I assumed that there were fare inspectors checking tickets but I just kept my eyes closed and I wasn't bothered.

 

I'm not positive that it was fare inspectors there because I couldn't see or hear anything, but the bus was stopped with the doors open for a while, so what else could it be?

 

What's exactly the policy for fare inspectors when it comes to sleeping passengers? Because I know that if a fare inspector tried to get my attention by tapping me (only way to get someone's attention with headphones on and eyes closed, right?), he would've deeply regretted it.

 

(And just so that there's no confusion, I had a ticket)

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If the person is dead tired, they can nap just about anywhere... I've seen some ppl take a nap on local buses. Not a big deal. I won't because my trips are usually short. Subways, since it can be a long trip, I might take a nap- Granted this was in the early 2000s when things were still good and crime wasn't too bad.

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Do you mean SBS?

 

Yeah, he did. He did say "fare inspectors", after all.

 

Nice move, though. I'd never sleep on an SBS bus. Or on any bus. At least not if I'm traveling alone.

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Very last row in the corner. I stuck my jacket back there to use as a pillow and then just went out. Can't even compare to the express bus in terms of comfort but it was good enough for me, plus there was a group of three sitting on the other side with a really fat guy in the middle seat so I had tons of leg room because nobody wanted to take the seat in between us.

 

Also with the seats that are facing each other, if you get the window seat on one and a rather large person takes the aisle seat on the other you extend your feet across onto the wheel cover or whatever that thing is which is really nice, but nothing to rest your head on unless you want to put something against the window.

 

And just like with the subway, if I ever do fall asleep I always know when it's my stop, probably I can feel it from the hills, bumps, and the time it takes from when the bus goes into the bus lane (they never stay in that lane) to when it stops.

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I never try to sleep on subway, bus or train, because I could never awake.

 

For example, if I fall asleep on (C) train, even when train reach final destionation, and even if conductor, train engineer, MTA Employee tap me to wake up, I wouldn`t wake up.

 

When I took long 2-hour ride on Bee-Line W15, I wouldn`t sleep either. Even on Dutchess County Loop C trip I took last year`s Dutchess County Fair.

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I tend not to sleep on transit, especially not a local system. Yes, I've done so on commuter rail and woke up just as the doors opened in GCT, thinking it was 125 before I opened my eyes.

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I never try to sleep on subway, bus or train, because I could never awake.

 

For example, if I fall asleep on (C) train, even when train reach final destionation, and even if conductor, train engineer, MTA Employee tap me to wake up, I wouldn`t wake up.

 

When I took long 2-hour ride on Bee-Line W15, I wouldn`t sleep either. Even on Dutchess County Loop C trip I took last year`s Dutchess County Fair.

 

Same here. I'm afraid I could lose track of time and end up overshooting the stop I want to get off at. If I actually fall asleep, I sleep like a log. Though there have been times when I was really tired and dozed off (though I was standing, so I couldn't get into too deep sleep)

 

As far as the W15 goes, wouldn't that defeat the point of busfanning if you fell asleep?

 

Out of curiosity, what's the policy on the commuter rail regarding sleeping passengers? Do they wake them up to check their ticket?

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Only time I fall asleep on MNRR Hudson Line were when I went to Dutchess County Fair for first time and window were took dark to take pic and Amy Mass, my former museum employee friend at Met Museum took me to Croton-Harmon Station, where it was night train and I fall asleep right after conductor took my ticket.

 

I only slept on bus twice.

 

When I tried to read all B15 JFK Airport bus stop via Mail Facility from beginning, somehow I fall asleep because bus was very slow due to crowds and somehow I woke up close to Linden Blvd.

 

Another time I fall asleep was after escorting Japanese guests from our guesthouse to JFK Airport, I took Jamaica Detpot`s Q3.

When I took Q3 along Farmers Blvd, sitting forward seat on prioty seating, I fall asleep.

When bus leave bus stop, Jamaica Bus Terminal, he didn`t pulled over into Q3 lane, properly going to depot. If male B/O hadn`t made big announcement, LAST STOP, I could not have wake up. I was only one bus at Jamaica Bus Terminal.

After that, I brought anything and rush into Central Library for internet use. I was half asleep and I thought I left my juice bottle on bus, but when I double check my backpack, my juice bottle was inside!!

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Only long-ditance bus I fall asleep was 8:30 MegaBus Return trip to NYC from Boston- South Station late, and it around 2 hours before midnight when I fall asleep right after I finish eating left over piazza when I was with two Japanese friends visiting NY and staying in guesthouse.

By the time I woke around midnight, bus were in White Plains on I-287 heading to I-87.

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As far as the W15 goes, wouldn't that defeat the point of busfanning if you fell asleep?

 

depends....

 

no in that, if he's using the BL-15 to xfer to another route he wants to enjoy the ride on more

(I have a tendency to do that, esp. on NJT trips; doze off on the 139 to endure the 2:40 min ride on the 559, for example)....

 

yes in that, if the idea is to enjoy all the rides on a fantrip.... the things busfanners do to avoid taking the subway/RR, b/c they want the trip to be "all buses".... I'm sure Yuki will know what I mean w/ that....

 

 

 

Out of curiosity, what's the policy on the commuter rail regarding sleeping passengers? Do they wake them up to check their ticket?

You ever wonder why the c/r say "TICKETS...." ticket's please... in a louder tone than normal when they're approaching a section of a car that has a sleeping passenger on it...

 

I don't think they're allowed to touch a passenger, if that's one of the main reasons you're askin.....

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You ever wonder why the c/r say "TICKETS...." ticket's please... in a louder tone than normal when they're approaching a section of a car that has a sleeping passenger on it...

 

I don't think they're allowed to touch a passenger, if that's one of the main reasons you're askin.....

 

That's why most commuters put their monthly on a lanyard around their necks and leave it face-up for the C/R. Or leave the one way/round trip in the little ticket clip on the seat.

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THat might be a bad idea. If the person is in a 'deep sleep', what's to stop another rider from just snatching the pass/ticket and using it for themselves?

 

THough when I rode the LIRR and it was at least a 2hr trip from Suffolk to Brooklyn, I just passed the time by reading the newspaper or did some homework on my laptop. I always kept the ticket in my wallet. So yes a commuter RR is safer than the subway/bus in the city, but I never let my guard down no matter how safe the area is.

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THat might be a bad idea. If the person is in a 'deep sleep', what's to stop another rider from just snatching the pass/ticket and using it for themselves?

 

THough when I rode the LIRR and it was at least a 2hr trip from Suffolk to Brooklyn, I just passed the time by reading the newspaper or did some homework on my laptop. I always kept the ticket in my wallet. So yes a commuter RR is safer than the subway/bus in the city, but I never let my guard down no matter how safe the area is.

 

Amtrak is right; riders do leave their tickets in that clip when they know they're gonna doze off.....

What you mention there though, is the exact same reason I don't do that isht... It's very rare that it happens, but still though....

 

Me, I keep the ticket in my hand until the c/r comes along & takes it or w/e... I've seen on 2 separate instances where a passenger had their ticket taken.... The first guy got thrown off the train @ the next stop (belligerence)... the second guy was angry of course, but he just paid the on board fare.... both happened on the LIRR....

 

Commuter rails I have the hardest time sleeping on.... I can't get comfortable enough....

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Somehow I stay up round trip on MegaBus on DC Trip on day of Blizzard in Feb 2010, when I took full one SEPTA #127 trip from Neshymall Mall (correct my spell) to Trenton Station, I stayed awake.

It was because of Champion on #127, it was not very relaxing.

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Gorgor your questions always seem to have some sort of backstory here, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here.

 

AFAIK no transit employee can lay hands on a passenger, but there aren't any noise restrictions, are there?

 

Never fallen asleep on the bus myself cause I've never taken an express bus and I always end up dozing off right when there's a huge jolt on local so I end up flying forwards, which solves that problem. 6 train in the morning though, I'm gone. Specially since the train loops, so if I really oversleep I'm going right back to where I need to be.

 

It was on a week night at around 6 or 7 at night and I had to take care of something down on Water Street before I went home so I decided to try and see if the SBS would be any good going to the Upper East Side, plus it would save me nearly a mile of walking. Purchased a ticket, waited a couple minutes, got on the bus, and took the seat all the way in the back in the corner. The bus was mainly filled with Wall Street type bankers so there was risk at all putting on my iPod and shutting my eyes, and I knew nobody would sit next to me because the enormous guy sitting in the middle seat was practically taking up half the seat in between us two.

 

That's the whole story really. The only thing I could hear was my music and a the very faint noise of the engine. I knew when the doors opened and closed because the temperature changed and I could feel the cool air, plus the bus wasn't in motion then.

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If there was time I can sleep on a bus, it's when I'm on the Bee Line. A 2 hour bus ride on the W60 from White Plains to Fordham Road during the PM Rush. There has been other times that I dosed off, especially the (Bx9) and a few express buses heading down towards Fifth Avenue but I have yet to miss my stop. I don't worry about anything on my jacket, usually when I sleep I keep both hands in my pocket with my iPod playing.

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If there was time I can sleep on a bus, it's when I'm on the Bee Line. A 2 hour bus ride on the W60 from White Plains to Fordham Road during the PM Rush. There has been other times that I dosed off, especially the (Bx9) and a few express buses heading down towards Fifth Avenue but I have yet to miss my stop. I don't worry about anything on my jacket, usually when I sleep I keep both hands in my pocket with my iPod playing.

 

Wouldn't a 1/2 hour MNR ride been more comfortable?

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If there was time I can sleep on a bus, it's when I'm on the Bee Line. A 2 hour bus ride on the W60 from White Plains to Fordham Road during the PM Rush. There has been other times that I dosed off, especially the (Bx9) and a few express buses heading down towards Fifth Avenue but I have yet to miss my stop. I don't worry about anything on my jacket, usually when I sleep I keep both hands in my pocket with my iPod playing.

 

That's the number one reason I won't take the 60 coming from white plains... too many people take that bus; makes too many stops... The fact that it isn't closed door in the bronx adds to the lagginess of the route.... It isn't like the 20, where most of its passengers are at particular stops....

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That's the number one reason I won't take the 60 coming from white plains... too many people take that bus; makes too many stops... The fact that it isn't closed door in the bronx adds to the lagginess of the route.... It isn't like the 20, where most of its passengers are at particular stops....

 

NO SANE PERSON WOULD use 60 the full route. Even the bus drivers on it complain that is should be closed door and let MTA make open door seervice on that road. I wonder what he was thinking when he did that.

 

 

Ok sleeping I took BL W77 to get a few locations at yorktown then on the way back I took W10 to cortlandt town center to BL16 for metro-north That local slow ass train took forever I slept all the way. To tell the truth I think W62's express portion should go to W42. I also took metro-north from new haven before I took SLE and well I was alone!!!!!!!!! back to buses most of the buses I sleep on are coachusa NYC bound buses to rockland and NJT lines

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NO SANE PERSON WOULD use 60 the full route. Even the bus drivers on it complain that is should be closed door and let MTA make open door seervice on that road. I wonder what he was thinking when he did that.

 

 

Ok sleeping I took BL W77 to get a few locations at yorktown then on the way back I took W10 to cortlandt town center to BL16 for metro-north That local slow ass train took forever I slept all the way. To tell the truth I think W62's express portion should go to W42. I also took metro-north from new haven before I took SLE and well I was alone!!!!!!!!! back to buses most of the buses I sleep on are coachusa NYC bound buses to rockland and NJT lines

 

If the MTA had a bus that runs via Boston Rd for most or all of its length in the NE Bx. (Pelham pkwy to city line..or perhaps Dyre Av, or Conner St) then I bet the bee line buses would be close door in the Bx. I know the Bx30 runs from Gun Hill to co op via boston rd, but I think Boston rd is a busy enough street to have a dedicated bus route for its whole length north of bx zoo. Its diagonal pattern leaves no real equivalent street. I think the MTA just lets the Bee Line pick up the slack. MTA being lazy, or saving money depending on your perspective.

 

As for the 60 bus white plains to fordham, Ive done that ride to pelham pkwy and its the worst, Metro North is the way to go, 30 mins or less, for $3.25, I'll gladly give them the extra $1. and if you get an express train..white plns..fordham..125th..grand central..you'll be there in no time..no time for a nap.

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NO SANE PERSON WOULD use 60 the full route. Even the bus drivers on it complain that is should be closed door and let MTA make open door seervice on that road. I wonder what he was thinking when he did that.

 

 

First of all, he said he doesn't want to take the W60 for the full route

 

Second of all, taking a long bus ride when there's an easy train alternative is called busfanning. Obviously, anybody in a rush is going to take Metro-North, or at least take the 20/21 or 40/41 which are more direct.

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