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Uptown F via M and M via F, Monday morning rush hour

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Per the TA twitter feed (twitter.com/NYCTSubwayScoop), the F and M going uptown will swap (F via M and M via F) between Rockefeller 47/50 and 36th St in Queens for emergency switch work starting at 5am tomorrow and lasting thru at least the morning rush. This should be interesting to see.

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Watch how "empty" those (M)s will be via 63rd...

 

At least for local riders wanting to get to QP, they can change for the (R) at 36th instead of if they made a mistake by getting on the (F) at Roosevelt and have to either get off at 21st-QB or go back to Roosevelt for the (E).

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If the tracks are still active, how is this work going to take place? I'm guessing the part that needs to be worked on is the diamond switch just east of Queens Plaza where the (M) switches from the express track to the local track.

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MTA NYCT Service Advisory : Switch Problems to Impact Customers on the F and M Subway Lines

 

Due to a switch problem in the vicinity of the Queens Plaza station, service on the F and M lines is being impacted.

 

Queens bound F trains will travel via the 53rd Street tunnel from 47th-50th Street-Rockefeller Center to Roosevelt Avenue in Queens. Also, Forest Hills bound M trains will travel via the 63rd Street tunnel from 47th-50th Street-Rockefeller Center to 36th Street in Queens. Manhattan bound service will be unaffected. Customers are advised to transfer between Queens bound F and M trains at 47th-50th Street-Rockefeller Center to board the train which will serve their destination.

 

Customers should also visit our website at http://www.mta.info for the latest information.

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If the tracks are still active, how is this work going to take place? I'm guessing the part that needs to be worked on is the diamond switch just east of Queens Plaza where the (M) switches from the express track to the local track.

 

Im guessing its a cracked Frog in the switch area...

 

Work should be fun today...

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Don`t it going to also cause delay on (E) and (R), too?

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Is Queens-bound (M) track from Queens Plaza to 36th St track is inactive?

Queens-bound (M) does exactly what (R) did for G.O, right?

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1) There have been delays on the (R) since yesterday when the problem arose.

 

2) The diamond crossover just north of Queens Plaza is out of service. All lines can run straight through. However, they can't cross over from the express tracks to the local ones or vice-versa, hence the current service patterns in place.

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1) There have been delays on the (R) since yesterday when the problem arose.

 

2) The diamond crossover just north of Queens Plaza is out of service. All lines can run straight through. However, they can't cross over from the express tracks to the local ones or vice-versa, hence the current service patterns in place.

I wasn't there, but the (E) wasn't running local from Queens Plaza to Roosevelt Avenue for the night then?

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Nope. If I recall correctly, last night, Queens-bound (E) trains ran express through 71 Av and 179 St-bound (F) trains ran local.

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Nope. If I recall correctly, last night, Queens-bound (E) trains ran express through 71 Av and 179 St-bound (F) trains ran local.

That's exactly what happened

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How about if switch problem wasn`t finish and might ended up in late night, will Queens-bound (E) train have to go express to Roosevelt Av?

 

Would they then have run a split (E) or perhaps for the night extend the (G) back to 71-Continental to cover for the (E) being unable to run local?

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Would they then have run a split (E) or perhaps for the night extend the (G) back to 71-Continental to cover for the (E) being unable to run local?

If the (F) is already running local, it wouldn't be that useful anyway. The work will get done faster if trains aren't pounding away on both sides of the switch.

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Problem is something has to run via 63rd (also stopping on Roosevelt Island and Queensbridge), and that doesn't stop at Queens Plaza. That's why it would have made the most sense to either have a split (E) or extend the (G) back to its old terminal for one night only.

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The (G) is not going past Court Square. End of discussion.

 

I said either a split (E) or extending the (G), as this was an emergency situation.

 

The problem with having the (F) run local there is then no local train between Queens Plaza and 36th since something has to run along 63rd to cover that service. Since in this scenario the (E) has to run express unless it is split (since it can't switch tracks at QP), the options are either to extend the (G) to 71st-Continental to handle what normally would be the (E)'s local run, have the (R) for the night run its full route rather than just the shuttle or have an (S) run from QP-71st.

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Does it ever occur to you that the (MTA) does not have the finances for your extension plans, regardless of the situation on the rails. It costs money to bring the (R) out of Brooklyn and it costs money to extend the (G) from Long Island City. They don't have that kind of money, hence the current late night service patterns. They'd rather let the (F) take five to ten more minutes to get to 179 St than pay for the extra crews required for a (G) or (R) extension.

 

Also, riders needing Queens Plaza can loop around at Roosevelt Av for Manhattan-bound service, which is unaffected by this switch problem.

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Does it ever occur to you that the (MTA) does not have the finances for your extension plans, regardless of the situation on the rails.

 

It's funny that every solution for a perceived transit problem on here is some sort of "extension". Extend this, extend that, add this, add that.

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It's funny that every solution for a perceived transit problem on here is some sort of "extension". Extend this, extend that, add this, add that.

 

Never fails, does it? :)

 

Well, according to the (MTA) site, everything's finally back to normal.

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