Pelham Bay Dave Posted October 10, 2011 Share #51 Posted October 10, 2011 No Track work in the Bronx exept 2 tk is out at E 180 St only. They are doing it to keep the crews in place but will confuse people in the BX. I don't thingk they saving Money because they got to ADD jobs out of Dyre since its going to South Ferry instead of OPTO to E 180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted October 12, 2011 Share #52 Posted October 12, 2011 But what is the point of running the to Dyre and the to East 241st? Everything else about this G.O. I understand, but not why the and are being flipped north of East 180th Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T to Dyre Avenue Posted October 12, 2011 Share #53 Posted October 12, 2011 But what is the point of running the to Dyre and the to East 241st? Everything else about this G.O. I understand, but not why the and are being flipped north of East 180th Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Line1291 Posted October 12, 2011 Share #54 Posted October 12, 2011 But what is the point of running the to Dyre and the to East 241st? Everything else about this G.O. I understand, but not why the and are being flipped north of East 180th Street.The best I can think of is the from Dyre Av to South Ferry would mirror the normal from Dyre to Bowling Green; while the from 241st to Flatbush would mirror the regular . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Line1291 Posted October 12, 2011 Share #55 Posted October 12, 2011 But what is the point of running the to Dyre and the to East 241st? Everything else about this G.O. I understand, but not why the and are being flipped north of East 180th Street.The best I can think of is the from Dyre Av to South Ferry would mirror the normal from Dyre to Bowling Green; while the from 241st to Flatbush would mirror the regular . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted October 12, 2011 Share #56 Posted October 12, 2011 But what is the point of running the to Dyre and the to East 241st? Everything else about this G.O. I understand, but not why the and are being flipped north of East 180th Street. Your Answer.. VV No Track work in the Bronx exept 2 tk is out at E 180 St only. They are doing it to keep the crews in place but will confuse people in the BX. I don't thingk they saving Money because they got to ADD jobs out of Dyre since its going to South Ferry instead of OPTO to E 180. Track work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted October 12, 2011 Share #57 Posted October 12, 2011 But what is the point of running the to Dyre and the to East 241st? Everything else about this G.O. I understand, but not why the and are being flipped north of East 180th Street. Your Answer.. VV No Track work in the Bronx exept 2 tk is out at E 180 St only. They are doing it to keep the crews in place but will confuse people in the BX. I don't thingk they saving Money because they got to ADD jobs out of Dyre since its going to South Ferry instead of OPTO to E 180. Track work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted October 12, 2011 Share #58 Posted October 12, 2011 I have done it there was a G.O like this backin my A Div Dayz... HAL5000 is going to blow a fuse with this One ha ha... You weren't kidding. Overnight the next train arrival signs for the (5)'s were displaying , and vice versa. Guess ATS can't handle the complexity of this GO after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted October 12, 2011 Share #59 Posted October 12, 2011 I have done it there was a G.O like this backin my A Div Dayz... HAL5000 is going to blow a fuse with this One ha ha... You weren't kidding. Overnight the next train arrival signs for the (5)'s were displaying , and vice versa. Guess ATS can't handle the complexity of this GO after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted October 14, 2011 Share #60 Posted October 14, 2011 Just to let some of you know, this G/O of the / Swap will be available thru Mid-Nov 2011 as I read in a G/O poster last night. But best to catch it this weekend and next just in case. Heres a clip of it from earlier: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted October 14, 2011 Share #61 Posted October 14, 2011 You weren't kidding. Overnight the next train arrival signs for the (5)'s were displaying , and vice versa. Guess ATS can't handle the complexity of this GO after all. Well well they fixed it (and yes I'm replying to myself). Wednesday night it was displaying wrong but they fixed it for Thursday night. The (5)s are showing as (5)s, and (2)s as (2)s. As for "why" the idea is on weekends you have one service Bronx to Brooklyn via West Side, and one service Bronx to Manhattan via East Side to allow the work in the Clark St tubes. By doing it this way, you keep service from 241st to Flat (so riders along WPR going to Brooklyn are not inconvenienced), and you keep 5's on the east side and 2's on the west side (even if they aren't being operated by the regular crews). In addition, by allowing the 2 crews to operate the 5 to Brooklyn, you don't need to move as many crews around (or pull extra crews) to cover the "5" runs to Brooklyn, and you don't have so many 5 crews sitting around not doing much on the "2" due to the "short turn" at the ferry. You also don't send crews to other than their typical reporting locations for the day, which costs money. So it's partly to save money, and partly to maintain a sense of order for the riding public. As silly as it sounds, it's a lot easier to explain to the riding public that the runs from Dyre to South Ferry than it is to explain that the runs on Lexington Avenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted October 15, 2011 Author Share #62 Posted October 15, 2011 You weren't kidding. Overnight the next train arrival signs for the (5)'s were displaying , and vice versa. Guess ATS can't handle the complexity of this GO after all. Probably because this is the only GO I've ever seen that told crews to sign trains for something different than what the train is internally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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