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Farebeater on 16:45 M5 South Ferry causes delay for B/O friend 10/11/11

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I was on 16:45 M5 South Ferry with B/O friend. After two Bx7s pull out from 178th St, he pulled at bus stop.

At that moment, as passengers were lined up to board (M5), my B/O friend who had good eyes caught lady farebeater came via rear door.

He asked polite and even impatient passengers were asking for so called farebeater to leave, and she refused, even if he threatened to call her cops.

B/O friend asked me to find cops, so I went upstairs to GWB Station try to flag PANY&NJ agent. I couldn"t find police, so I darted back to M5 stop, but B/O friend was waiting for me at 177th St because I had my belonging.

He lost 10 minutes with farebeater, and he did sort of express run on Riverside Drive and he was suppose to be at Riverside Drive/97th St @ 17:21, but he caught up and just 3 minutes late at 17:24.

Can PANY&NJ Police have power in NYC to arrest farebeater on (MTA) Bus beside New Jersey buses?

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I was on 16:45 M5 South Ferry with B/O friend. After two Bx7s pull out from 178th St, he pulled at bus stop.

At that moment, as passengers were lined up to board (M5), my B/O friend who had good eyes caught lady farebeater came via rear door.

He asked polite and even impatient passengers were asking for so called farebeater to leave, and she refused, even if he threatened to call her cops.

B/O friend asked me to find cops, so I went upstairs to GWB Station try to flag PANY&NJ agent. I couldn"t find police, so I darted back to M5 stop, but B/O friend was waiting for me at 177th St because I had my belonging.

He lost 10 minutes with farebeater, and he did sort of express run on Riverside Drive and he was suppose to be at Riverside Drive/97th St @ 17:21, but he caught up and just 3 minutes late at 17:24.

Can PANY&NJ Police have power in NYC to arrest farebeater on (MTA) Bus beside New Jersey buses?

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Even if you had found a PAPD officer, he probably would have just called in NYPD. Jurisdiction is a big issue for cops, and unless they see something very serious outside of their own jurisdiction, it is highly, highly unlikely they will intervene. Even NYPD officers assigned to a precinct will often not intervene in a situation outside of their precinct boundaries. Cops in special units are not always bound by those lines, though.

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Even if you had found a PAPD officer, he probably would have just called in NYPD. Jurisdiction is a big issue for cops, and unless they see something very serious outside of their own jurisdiction, it is highly, highly unlikely they will intervene. Even NYPD officers assigned to a precinct will often not intervene in a situation outside of their precinct boundaries. Cops in special units are not always bound by those lines, though.

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A PAPD police officer would have the authority to arrest the fare beater. Fare beating is theft of services which is defined in the NYS Penal Law. A police officer in NYS is a police officer everywhere in NYS, except for local traffic violations. Would the PAPD officer have intervened, I highly doubt it.

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A PAPD police officer would have the authority to arrest the fare beater. Fare beating is theft of services which is defined in the NYS Penal Law. A police officer in NYS is a police officer everywhere in NYS, except for local traffic violations. Would the PAPD officer have intervened, I highly doubt it.

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B/O was wrong, and could have been written up for delay of service is some one in supervision noticed the bus siting at the stop for no reason past their time.

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B/O was wrong, and could have been written up for delay of service is some one in supervision noticed the bus siting at the stop for no reason past their time.

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I was on 16:45 M5 South Ferry with B/O friend. After two Bx7s pull out from 178th St, he pulled at bus stop.

At that moment, as passengers were lined up to board (M5), my B/O friend who had good eyes caught lady farebeater came via rear door.

He asked polite and even impatient passengers were asking for so called farebeater to leave, and she refused, even if he threatened to call her cops.

B/O friend asked me to find cops, so I went upstairs to GWB Station try to flag PANY&NJ agent. I couldn"t find police, so I darted back to M5 stop, but B/O friend was waiting for me at 177th St because I had my belonging.

He lost 10 minutes with farebeater, and he did sort of express run on Riverside Drive and he was suppose to be at Riverside Drive/97th St @ 17:21, but he caught up and just 3 minutes late at 17:24.

Can PANY&NJ Police have power in NYC to arrest farebeater on (MTA) Bus beside New Jersey buses?

I would open the doors and push her ass off done

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I was on 16:45 M5 South Ferry with B/O friend. After two Bx7s pull out from 178th St, he pulled at bus stop.

At that moment, as passengers were lined up to board (M5), my B/O friend who had good eyes caught lady farebeater came via rear door.

He asked polite and even impatient passengers were asking for so called farebeater to leave, and she refused, even if he threatened to call her cops.

B/O friend asked me to find cops, so I went upstairs to GWB Station try to flag PANY&NJ agent. I couldn"t find police, so I darted back to M5 stop, but B/O friend was waiting for me at 177th St because I had my belonging.

He lost 10 minutes with farebeater, and he did sort of express run on Riverside Drive and he was suppose to be at Riverside Drive/97th St @ 17:21, but he caught up and just 3 minutes late at 17:24.

Can PANY&NJ Police have power in NYC to arrest farebeater on (MTA) Bus beside New Jersey buses?

I would open the doors and push her ass off done

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....and get fired...

 

Exactly. A B/O isn't allowed to put their hands on a person, except for self-defense.

 

In the Edwin Thomas case, I believe the farebeater got off easy because Edwin Thomas supposedly hit him first, right? I don't think there's a rule saying they're not allowed to defend themselves.

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not the driver but If I was one of the passengers I never said if I was the driver

Unfortunately passengers cannot "open" the doors, as you stated in previous post; that's the operator's job.

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B/O was wrong, and could have been written up for delay of service is some one in supervision noticed the bus siting at the stop for no reason past their time.

 

Agreed what he or she is suppose to do is ether just let them in and hit the button on the farebox or use the phone in the bus to contact control.

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