B17EastNewYorkDepot Posted October 30, 2011 Share #51 Posted October 30, 2011 man how i wish mta could take the orion back , n make veiola do there own thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted October 30, 2011 Share #52 Posted October 30, 2011 1760-1839 are property of the MTA. This takeover wasn't out of nowhere....the 1800's came with run boxes for a reason. They were property of the MTA. At one time, MTA was planning on a full integration of LIB into the regional bus operations. This is why the latter came with run boxes, and were pretty much MTA specifications. However, when the announcement was made that Veolia would take over, it was also said within the internal circles that Veolia/Nassau would retain the buses, and the options of that order could possibly be diverted to MTA mainline operations. So yes, the buses were owned and operated by MTA as they paid the lions share of the 20%. They are now Veolia/Nassau buses. Walder said that all buses are Nassau's property... That's because they are now! Nope they can't, If they did Nassau can sue them for scrapping the 1400's and early 1500's as well as the 1800's (orion V's) to Me thats the real reason why those Ng's are staying, you can't scrap a Bus thats you didn't purchaced then take the ones u gave back, LIB would be screwed if they did that Very true!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 1, 2011 Share #53 Posted November 1, 2011 Per the board meeting video, driver training is underway, but the contract will have to be approved by the legislature, and a public hearing would be needed before the vote. They are aiming for a ratification date of late next month. It's still funny to me that all of this has to be voted on and approved when Veolia already has a desk at MF, already started training drivers on their policies, and already have their inspection stickers on buses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAzumah Posted November 1, 2011 Share #54 Posted November 1, 2011 It's still funny to me that all of this has to be voted on and approved when Veolia already has a desk at MF, already started training drivers on their policies, and already have their inspection stickers on buses. Lots of people have noticed, but the idea is that no one wants to upset the apple cart now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E train line Posted November 2, 2011 Share #55 Posted November 2, 2011 The Long Island Bus is dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRT Bronx Express Posted November 3, 2011 Share #56 Posted November 3, 2011 The Long Island Bus is deadUseless post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted November 5, 2011 Share #57 Posted November 5, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted November 5, 2011 Share #58 Posted November 5, 2011 Nassau will cover that 20% the paid for their portion of the dish on the Orion VII's. As for the rest of the LI Busses today, it'll be intact but without the logo and operations thingy on them. As for Veolia, I am kinda confident they'll do a decent job despite their reputation. I saw them operate Las Vegas's RTA Bus System, and they did a decent job in my observations. Simply, I wouldn't throw a rant. Don't forget most of San Diego's RTS bus system as well. With Veolia now opearting in the backyard of America/the World Media Captial's I am sure they will try to do a descent job. IMO the key of whether Veolia succeds is whether Mangano provides a proper amount of funding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 6, 2011 Share #59 Posted November 6, 2011 Don't forget most of San Diego's RTS bus system as well. With Veolia now opearting in the backyard of America/the World Media Captial's I am sure they will try to do a descent job. IMO the key of whether Veolia succeds is whether Mangano provides a proper amount of funding. I think they will succeed lets be optimistic ppl!!!!!! who knows the service changes they make later on may increase ridership to at least 20% of the population Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 6, 2011 Share #60 Posted November 6, 2011 I think they will succeed lets be optimistic ppl!!!!!! who knows the service changes they make later on may increase ridership to at least 20% of the population Again, not with the limited funds they'll be given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transit bx Posted November 6, 2011 Share #61 Posted November 6, 2011 Do yall think the drivers at lib is happy going private, and also still don't understand why lib make so much less then nycta/mtabc, where as bee line carry as much passengers as lib do daily ( 100,000) which the bee line make just as much as us at the MTA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 7, 2011 Share #62 Posted November 7, 2011 Do yall think the drivers at lib is happy going private, and also still don't understand why lib make so much less then nycta/mtabc, where as bee line carry as much passengers as lib do daily ( 100,000) which the bee line make just as much as us at the MTA. The reasons way LIB workers get paid less... The system does not have NYC revenue, and the County was not paying for service. LIB was essentially subsidized by MTA. The 6/27 service cuts possibly did more damage to TA/BC than people realize. Next year, I want everyone to pay attention to how MTA operates without LIB. If Nassau paid its fair share the service would have been much better than it is. Hopefully they work with Veolia and MTA during this transition and create a route structure that best suits the needs of the passengers. That's the only way any of this is going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 7, 2011 Share #63 Posted November 7, 2011 Again, not with the limited funds they'll be given. ya never know I will wait and see what can we do?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transit bx Posted November 7, 2011 Share #64 Posted November 7, 2011 The reasons way LIB workers get paid less... The system does not have NYC revenue, and the County was not paying for service. LIB was essentially subsidized by MTA. The 6/27 service cuts possibly did more damage to TA/BC than people realize. Next year, I want everyone to pay attention to how MTA operates without LIB. If Nassau paid its fair share the service would have been much better than it is. Hopefully they work with Veolia and MTA during this transition and create a route structure that best suits the needs of the passengers. That's the only way any of this is going to work. you think MTA is better off without LIB,which that gives MTA more time to focus on TA/OA and BC? What's going to be the outcome good or bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted November 7, 2011 Share #65 Posted November 7, 2011 At the April meeting with the LIB resolution, one of the board members put part of the blame of the cuts on Nassau County. I think it's partially true, as $27M of $93M in cuts could be reduced if Nassau paid everything it had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted November 7, 2011 Share #66 Posted November 7, 2011 Dumping LIB is not gonna fix much of the budget gap the MTA has, is it? I mean, I don't expect to see a difference in service or operations with the MTA without LIB. They were treated seperately, LIB and NYCT. Example, the Q12 stop at Douglaston Pkwy and Northern Blvd. Casey Stengel was notified to stop stopping there on the Q12, but the N20 and 21 out of Mitchel Field still stop there. And the drivers are most certainly not happy. Look at this video recently posted by Fios1 News. None of the drivers want to talk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNs7QQO4SLg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 7, 2011 Share #67 Posted November 7, 2011 Dumping LIB is not gonna fix much of the budget gap the MTA has, is it? I mean, I don't expect to see a difference in service or operations with the MTA without LIB. They were treated seperately, LIB and NYCT. Example, the Q12 stop at Douglaston Pkwy and Northern Blvd. Casey Stengel was notified to stop stopping there on the Q12, but the N20 and 21 out of Mitchel Field still stop there. And the drivers are most certainly not happy. Look at this video recently posted by Fios1 News. None of the drivers want to talk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNs7QQO4SLg o well shit happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67thAve Posted November 9, 2011 Share #68 Posted November 9, 2011 Here is a link to how I thing Long Island bus will look in 2015: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212491327803046741550.0004b14376cf0c68012d1&msa=0&ll=40.722543,-73.601189&spn=0.128277,0.3368 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 9, 2011 Share #69 Posted November 9, 2011 Here is a link to how I thing Long Island bus will look in 2015: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212491327803046741550.0004b14376cf0c68012d1&msa=0&ll=40.722543,-73.601189&spn=0.128277,0.3368 enough of this LIB nonsense wait and see you are NOT able to predict the future so stop it already. most ppl do not care. If you gonna do something then do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted November 9, 2011 Share #70 Posted November 9, 2011 Here is a link to how I thing Long Island bus will look in 2015: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212491327803046741550.0004b14376cf0c68012d1&msa=0&ll=40.722543,-73.601189&spn=0.128277,0.3368 LOL. Let's hope not. :eek: And what would the headways be on that route? A bus once a day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67thAve Posted November 9, 2011 Share #71 Posted November 9, 2011 Probably. Note: This map is not intended to be taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted November 9, 2011 Share #72 Posted November 9, 2011 LOL. Let's hope not. :eek: And what would the headways be on that route? A bus once a day? ur joking right??? that is intercity rural frequency!!!!!! IN LI if it has to run once a day it will just get CUT. lets be realistic plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted November 9, 2011 Share #73 Posted November 9, 2011 you think MTA is better off without LIB,which that gives MTA more time to focus on TA/OA and BC? What's going to be the outcome good or bad? Dumping LIB is not gonna fix much of the budget gap the MTA has, is it? I mean, I don't expect to see a difference in service or operations with the MTA without LIB. They were treated seperately, LIB and NYCT. Example, the Q12 stop at Douglaston Pkwy and Northern Blvd. Casey Stengel was notified to stop stopping there on the Q12, but the N20 and 21 out of Mitchel Field still stop there. And the drivers are most certainly not happy. Look at this video recently posted by Fios1 News. None of the drivers want to talk. Dumping LIB takes much of the stress off TA/BC as there is more money for New York City operations now. Millions of dollars used for LIB came out of MTA's pocket. And they weren't treated separately either. LIB was being consolidated into Regional Bus Operations at one time. MTA Bus Ops. will be in a much better position now that they don't have Nassau sucking them dry. At the April meeting with the LIB resolution, one of the board members put part of the blame of the cuts on Nassau County. I think it's partially true, as $27M of $93M in cuts could be reduced if Nassau paid everything it had to. It's more than partially true, its a fact. ur joking right??? that is intercity rural frequency!!!!!! IN LI if it has to run once a day it will just get CUT. lets be realistic plz Learn how to take a joke! Sit down some damn where and relax! You are starting to irritate me again, and that is not a good look!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted November 9, 2011 Share #74 Posted November 9, 2011 enough of this LIB nonsense wait and see you are NOT able to predict the futureso stop it already. most ppl do not care. If you gonna do something then do it That's funny coming from the person who developed a huge list of cuts, bigger than anyone else's and wanted to change numerous LIB and NYCT routes that would confuse and affect more people than what was even predicted. Here is a link to how I thing Long Island bus will look in 2015: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212491327803046741550.0004b14376cf0c68012d1&msa=0&ll=40.722543,-73.601189&spn=0.128277,0.3368 That made this whole thing a joke, and it gets even funnier if it's one bus ever hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv10303 Posted November 9, 2011 Share #75 Posted November 9, 2011 I see this as a good thing. Although I never took this bus or any bus in long island in my life, I think MTA has too strong of a monopoly on all the transportation services. They definitely should not be in control of the bridges. Still scratching my head at that one 15 years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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