Kamen Rider Posted October 22, 2011 Share #51 Posted October 22, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisliz09 Posted October 22, 2011 Share #52 Posted October 22, 2011 Oh Obama said it; therefor it must be true! Seriously, I stoped taking you seriously ages ago. this just railroad penis-envy, nothing more, nothing less. you want to ride Japanese style trains all the time, move in with your cousins. Japan is tiny, dense as hell and needs those trains becuase it's it's only real means of transportation. China is a dictatorial police state. Most of what they've been doing is trying to strengthen the falsehood that they are a strong communistic. European highways are not "better" than ours. the only reason we're having mantince problems, like I've said a million and one times, is the United States is a dozen times larger. For every mile of Autobahn, there are 6 miles of Interstate. Even most of China's devlopment is to it's eastern half. All it's real major cities are ether ports, or a few hours inland, the rest is a dump that's still somewhere in the Ming Dynasty. its not just Obama that said it ive been too a lot of countries and i seen it myself, i never said it have too get this crazy i just asked why do you think we dont have what other places have and can we ever get that way, its so funny to me i travel all over this city and i never once hear someone say they love the MTA ever i hear people say i hate it there a rip off its so nasty its so bad ect ect. i like most of the improvements we have now but its always people that hate it. and the fact that i bring it up any is because i just got off the Acela for the first time and it was ok but i also been on the bullet trains in Japan its not close. i just wanted to see what people felt thats all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted October 22, 2011 Share #53 Posted October 22, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted October 22, 2011 Share #54 Posted October 22, 2011 Remember guys the Acela Express supports the Northeast Corridor. We should be fine. Of course I would support an extension of the Acela down south to Florida somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted October 23, 2011 Share #55 Posted October 23, 2011 no we dont! where did you hear that? we have highways that are over crowded and in need of serious repair. they have been saying that for years now. the bridges are falling apart and are in need of repair they just said that a few days ago even President Obama said that and he is rite they in Europe have a high way with no speed limit and it haves the best safety record we dont have anything like that here so dont say we have the best in any highways here because we are no where near them. did any of you see the new bridges they are building in Japan and China? that are so long its un known how they did it. we dont have that here. and not too be to hard on the people that lost there life in that bridge that fell a few years ago but i never heard of any country having that happen before/ and you think Toyko's and Shanghai's highways cruise along with no traffic? Europe lacks a consistent freeway system, every one is set up to serve one specific country, and its only Germany that has any that are of any significance. from italy, looks worse than the BQE and Cross Island. Czeckoslovakia, on par with the parkways here which arent representative of the actual interstate highway system, and if you actually get out on the open road, not just the BQE or Cross Bronx, which were designed and built mostly in the 1940s you will see our highways are world class. this time France, again not much shoulders and not much different than anything I've seen around here. and as for long bridges, I guess you never seen the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel in Virginia, or the Lake Pontchartrain causeway in Louisiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted October 23, 2011 Share #56 Posted October 23, 2011 Britain maybe. But not Canada and Australia. canada has a very similar system to US. Almost every US cities have public bus systems. Yes they do , do your research.....they even have higher usage rates then the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted October 23, 2011 Share #57 Posted October 23, 2011 Oh Obama said it; therefor it must be true! Seriously, I stoped taking you seriously ages ago. this just railroad penis-envy, nothing more, nothing less. you want to ride Japanese style trains all the time, move in with your cousins. Japan is tiny, dense as hell and needs those trains becuase it's it's only real means of transportation. China is a dictatorial police state. Most of what they've been doing is trying to strengthen the falsehood that they are a strong communistic. European highways are not "better" than ours. the only reason we're having mantince problems, like I've said a million and one times, is the United States is a dozen times larger. For every mile of Autobahn, there are 6 miles of Interstate. Even most of China's devlopment is to it's eastern half. All it's real major cities are ether ports, or a few hours inland, the rest is a dump that's still somewhere in the Ming Dynasty. Its the size of California and only 1 of its 4 Islands is densely populated the rest of its Islands are = to the Great Plain states in terms of density. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted October 23, 2011 Share #58 Posted October 23, 2011 double post.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted October 23, 2011 Share #59 Posted October 23, 2011 and you think Toyko's and Shanghai's highways cruise along with no traffic? Europe lacks a consistent freeway system, every one is set up to serve one specific country, and its only Germany that has any that are of any significance. from italy, looks worse than the BQE and Cross Island. Czeckoslovakia, on par with the parkways here which arent representative of the actual interstate highway system, and if you actually get out on the open road, not just the BQE or Cross Bronx, which were designed and built mostly in the 1940s you will see our highways are world class. this time France, again not much shoulders and not much different than anything I've seen around here. and as for long bridges, I guess you never seen the Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel in Virginia, or the Lake Pontchartrain causeway in Louisiana. Those are pictures of older highways.....Newer highways , tunnels and bridges in Europe and Asia have shoulders....and Electronic signs and SOS boxes every 500ft. There is no Czeckoslovakia anymore , its the Czech Republic and Slovakia Republic. Czech Republic... Japan...I see a shoulder most of length there... Typical Danish Freeway... SR501-4 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted October 23, 2011 Share #60 Posted October 23, 2011 that danish freeway isnt anything different than what you see here. Its nothing special, those older freeway segments in Europe are no different than your BQE, your Deegan Expressway, etc. compare this to that danish freeway, I think they did a much better job here on I-84 than they did over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted October 23, 2011 Share #61 Posted October 23, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted October 23, 2011 Share #62 Posted October 23, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted October 29, 2011 Share #63 Posted October 29, 2011 China is little more than a dictitorial police state that does whatever it wants, and the rest of them have no problem investing in HSR because they are a fraction of the size of the United States. We can't afford that map. We couldn't afford it ten years ago. London to Warsaw poland (wanted Moscow, but Google Maps had a fit) are about 1000 miles apart. If you went from London to Warsaw, back to london, and then back to warsaw again, you've roughly eqauled the distace of a one way trip from New York to San Fransisco. I am sick and tired of people going "european trains this", "European trains that". they don't have to go 2000 miles one way. They don't have to cross the Rockies. to equal out to an american cross country trip, would be London to bleeping Jerusleum. That's going from the UK, into France, Belgum, Germany, Austria, Hungary, Serbia, bulgaria, Turkey, Syria, Lebannon and into Israel. true but a grid network should take care of that also we can do it if we use shorter trains to adjust to demand if we can think like a cross country traveler then we can at least have a very good rail network. 5 hour delays normally on a consistent basis is unacceptable and we have a better system of freeways compared to those placesnot something we should be proud of hun that promotes inefficient travel as nexis would put it. Actually in terms of safety and design our freeways are behind and very dangerous... When it comes to trains I can almost never disagree with you at all.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted October 29, 2011 Share #64 Posted October 29, 2011 The normal person feels that spending tons of money on a massive network of high speed trains is a waste. This is a car country, and we're going to stay that was for the forseable future. Transit is best where there is density beyond the ablity of the car to operate somthly. Japan and europe are far denser than North America, that's why the people there are so receptive to the HSR network.I agree and disagree I agree north america isn't that dense BUT I disagree that it's impossible HSR if built properly can be strategically planned to link communities and many public transit systems that are far away together in a giant grid. Of course the trains will never be as frequent but if planned with connectivity in mind and with enough revenue generating extras on board it can actually become a money making venture cause unlike intercity bus it's speed allows it to constantly board and disembark new passengers while using low fares to attract them and using on-board amenities and restaurants and stuff around the stations to get them to spend money constantly. Also they can be more autotrain lines available to serve areas that are in car country allowing ppl with cars to manipulate HSR to decrease their travel time. Here it's about speed how fast can you get a group of ppl to a certain point to absorb additional revenue from new passengers to interline and consolidate services. If done correctly one train can act as a commuter at one side of the country then turn into regional connector for another region and if done correctly and linked to the airlines with stops at airports directly. Freeways to airports would benefit from less traffic therefore less wear on the highways meaning the infrastructure becomes less to operate and the transportation network as a whole can improve considerably. Costly rural rideshare routes can be replaced by long distance PRT or a mix of PRT/Superbus networks so intercity buses can eliminate the rural divide and spend as little time in money losing areas as possible while maintaining the service basic needs there or simply making transit feasible where otherwise it wouldn't be the intercity(superbuses) can then quickly get back to their money making routes as fast as possible. Also they are flexible too in terms of routing and can help HSR. Remember guys the Acela Express supports the Northeast Corridor. We should be fine. Of course I would support an extension of the Acela down south to Florida somewhere. I agree If the long distance lines can become HSR then they would become the merged form of many rail corridors at once and when outfitted with amenities the lines can constantly generate revenue and even run on different types of power like one segment can be solar powered in the west coast then the train can switch to wind when reaching the plains states before ending in chicago. A similar design can be done on acela to florida and maybe atlanta if buses can make money then the HSR can too if done right. There needs to be a complete strategy for HSR what transit connections will you create to maximize ridership what extras would you throw in to keep em spending while on board the train Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted October 29, 2011 Share #65 Posted October 29, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted October 30, 2011 Share #66 Posted October 30, 2011 what is it with you and run-on sentences? We can't afford it. If you took the Shinkansen network, laid it out, single tracked end to end, you would not have enough for a stright shot from here to LA and back, you'd run out of track on the return trip somewhere in the plains states. TGV, ICE and all the rest. We're talking a massive constrctuion project that will send our country trillions more into debt long before it even earns so much as a dime. The problem is inherit in your mind, how you see the world. You want to build more public transportation becuase you see the value of it to the greater good. Only a few of us, such as Grand Concourse and myself, take the step back and say "wait a second here guys, what do we have to do to get to where we want to go?" Would I like to have faster trains, yes I would. Problem is we will never in a million years be able to afford it without major changes. unless we're willing to make sacfifices, and I don't mean cuts in helthcare or Soical securty, I mean along the lines of selling Alaska. not exactly to the corridors that can't support HSR the superbuses should be sufficient as they are MUCH cheaper to build and operate BUT they have much lower capacity than the HSR but have the flexibility to use regular roads until they reach special HS track lanes on interstate or abandoned rail lines where they can scram to the nearest large city to go to profitable territory. In the long run the superbus project if it reaches the US would be cheaper to operate than regular intercity bus lines. besides the HS tracks for the super buses are cheaper to build than new highways and can be incorporated into new highway designs as we need to upgrade infrastructure anyway so you should place the infrastructure and get it over with. They would be excellent feeders to HSR. Also the rail lines are falling apart just double track em and get it over with. If the lines are upgraded the delays will disappear making rail an option thus increasing ridership and with on board amenities strategically laid out the rail lines would generate more revenue for all areas involved. Also they would be able to operate at a profit. We can't just sit on our thumbs and continue to operate money losing trains that are never on time that in a long run is more costly than upgrading the network to HSR. and wwith the superbuses the cost of operation can plummet for agencies looking to provide commuter rail. Some HSR trains would act like commuter trains for some areas while being night trains in another. Nothing wrong with selling Alaska lol they aren't even worth keeping. What we can't afford to do any longer is subsidize trains that are never on-time and trains that ppl do not use as a result. Amtrak is a disaster that needs a complete overhaul in their employee structure and operating. Some parks like snack bar need to get axed and replaced with legitimate food options that entice ppl to spend like spa cars restaurant cars serving 4 to 5 star cuisine movie rentals. Shops around all the stations with discount programs to create business in the towns they serve and generate revenue. It's way more than just really fast trains it's about what do ppl want in their trip customer service is key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted October 30, 2011 Share #67 Posted October 30, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted October 30, 2011 Share #68 Posted October 30, 2011 So you want a public transit network that reaches just about everybody. What's the furthest in this country that you've been from Brooklyn? Becuase most americans don't want to live within timetables. that's why we, as a nation, are a car culture. people can do what they want, when they want, how they want. you're operating under the asumption that people are going to jump at the change to ride your trains and "super buses" everywhere. 100 years ago you had an argument, now, not so much. Not exactly I am aware some parts won't support transit so for them autotrain style HSR lines so ppl can reduce their driving times from one point to another. reread my post I am aware some places are car country. I have been to morgantown WV and to evansville,IN and buffalo,NY as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted October 30, 2011 Share #69 Posted October 30, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted October 30, 2011 Share #70 Posted October 30, 2011 Well, I've been to Los Anglese, and your idea would go over there about as well as roast pork at a Barmitzva. Auto train works point A to point B. puting in Point C and Point D is just going to make it a waste of time. you don't get what I was saying that auto train idea is only for extremely long lines through rural areas. In los angeles however an improved commuter rail network is the only way plus HSR will do wonders for the west coast and the Northeast regions in terms of pure passenger and point a to b then other points via connections to commuter rail and buses or other transit systems. However for extremely long rail rtes HSR in the form of autotrain lines act like reinforcements to the highway network but what it does is speed up car travel if done right. Also the rural intercity bus rtes evolve into superbuses that link with HSR to reinforce the network (NATIONAL) not regional don't misword it that wasn't the idea not what you think. The HSR(autotrains) only work in spread out areas where buses won't work due to the area being well deserted basically it manipulates rural travel where normal transit won't work. you know amtrak's autotrain this takes that and greatly enhances it into a super highway in a sense it would create high speed highways where needed this means no new highways are needed. If manipulated properly it can decrease travel times. Point C and D is via transfers to other trains however after research in order for the autolines to work out they have to be completely redesigned with faster boarding and deboarding in mind. However you raise very valid points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted October 30, 2011 Share #71 Posted October 30, 2011 not something we should be proud of hun that promotes inefficient travel as nexis would put it. its more efficient travel than the various LSD inspired schemes you come up with that involve multiple transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted October 30, 2011 Share #72 Posted October 30, 2011 its more efficient travel than the various LSD inspired schemes you come up with that involve multiple transfers. nope none of them require too many transfers hun and HSR is best done when linked to many city centers and transit systems and are way more efficient than highways clogged with cars. you know better. Plus HSR needs strategy it has to be quite different than europe and asia but SPEED is very important. I think most of the trains with on time problems need to become mixed trains. Plus my last post wasn't really anti-car but more of manipulation of the entire transportation network even car travel gets improved here it's unification of as many modes as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted October 30, 2011 Share #73 Posted October 30, 2011 nope none of them require too many transfers hun and HSR is best done when linked to many city centers and transit systems and are way more efficient than highways clogged with cars. you know better. if you are going cross country, you aren't likely to deal with traffic congestion once you get out of the metro areas. Plus there are beltways and other highways that go around cities which can get you around the major traffic. To go from the northeast to atlanta and florida, theres I-81 which gets you around the washington and baltimore traffic, then theres I-84 which gets you around stamford and new haven's traffic. It may not be the most point to point direct but you are at least moving. IMO High Speed Rail is a waste of money. If I want to get somewhere fast across country, I can just take a plane. Its 3 1/2 hours to Florida from New York. It takes me about 2 hours to get from Norfolk to Islip with a short stopover in Baltimore. its 4-5 hours to Vegas from here. High Speed Rail isn't going to give you those travel times. otherwise I'm just taking a car, where I can make my own schedule, and have the freedom to go where I want, when I want. You will never understand car culture and why people are attached to their cars. The Automobile is a symbol of freedom and individuality, to be celebrated and supported. I'm no fan of California or Los Angeles, but one thing they do right there in Southern California is their love of the automobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted October 30, 2011 Share #74 Posted October 30, 2011 if you are going cross country, you aren't likely to deal with traffic congestion once you get out of the metro areas. Plus there are beltways and other highways that go around cities which can get you around the major traffic. To go from the northeast to atlanta and florida, theres I-81 which gets you around the washington and baltimore traffic, then theres I-84 which gets you around stamford and new haven's traffic. It may not be the most point to point direct but you are at least moving. IMO High Speed Rail is a waste of money. If I want to get somewhere fast across country, I can just take a plane. Its 3 1/2 hours to Florida from New York. It takes me about 2 hours to get from Norfolk to Islip with a short stopover in Baltimore. its 4-5 hours to Vegas from here. High Speed Rail isn't going to give you those travel times. otherwise I'm just taking a car, where I can make my own schedule, and have the freedom to go where I want, when I want. You will never understand car culture and why people are attached to their cars. The Automobile is a symbol of freedom and individuality, to be celebrated and supported. I'm no fan of California or Los Angeles, but one thing they do right there in Southern California is their love of the automobile. true but it would be cheaper to operate than the failures that amtrak seems to be running. running 5 hours late automatically kills the train experience and is detrimental to ridership and HSR will not be set up to compete directly with planes anyway. southern california is way too dense to go on without a respectable commuter rail network. Their freeways are parking lots. Driving is only fun If I am moving not stuck in traffic. I find it too hard to believe their bus usage is 2nd to NYC yet they are car culture backwards much. If greyhound and megabus can profit why not rail??? cause the way rail is run is way too inefficient. If strategically planned out HSR can be more profitable than buses since they can generate revenue from channels other than tickets. With bus eliminating terminals and using major transfer points in each city curbside where connections to the local transit system can be made reduce cost. Why should buses go undisputed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted October 30, 2011 Share #75 Posted October 30, 2011 Maybe high speed rail in the US could have a 6 track configuration. 2 local tracks, 2 express tracks, and 2 super express tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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