Maxwell179 Posted February 11, 2020 Share #6176 Posted February 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Jova42R said: see below the manhattan-bound tube is closed. you'd have to. No , you just suspend all service between Queens & Manhattan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 12, 2020 Share #6177 Posted February 12, 2020 23 hours ago, Jova42R said: Next: A train derails south of Boro Hall, causing major damage to every track. There is a broken rail in the Queens-bound 53 St Tubes, causing the closure of the Queens-bound tubes (MANHATTAN-BOUND NOT AFFECTED!). A work train stalls in the 60 St Tubes Manhattan-bound, causing the closure of the Manhattan-bound tubes (QUEENS-BOUND NOT AFFECTED!) The north side of the Manhattan Bridge is closed, so no trains can run through Reroute: , SB , NB This will be fun: runs in two sections: 241st Street-Chambers Street (some trains continue to Wall Street or Borough Hall OR to South Ferry on the , trains run local south of Times Square) Nevins Street-Flatbush Avenue. runs from 148th Street-14th Street ONLY! runs in two sections: Woodlawn-Borough Hall Nevins St.-New Lots Avenue, replacing the as a local throughout. runs in two sections: Dyre Avenue-Borough Hall (some trains terminate at Brooklyn Bridge) Atlantic Avenue-Flatbush Avenue (some trains run to Utica Avenue) runs LIMITED service from Grand Street-145th Street or Bedford Park Boulevard ONLY (additional trains terminate and begin at Broadway-Lafayette or 2nd Avenue). runs as follows: LIMITED service from Grand Street-205th Street (additional trains terminate and begin at Broadway-Lafayette or 2nd Avenue). Some trains from 96th Street-2nd Avenue to Coney Island via the and to 36th Street in Brooklyn. Some trains run via the and to Euclid Avenue in Brooklyn runs as follows: Some trains run northbound via 6th Avenue and 63rd Street between West 4th Street and Roosevelt Avenue Some trains run northbound to Lexington Avenue-53rd Street and terminate there. Some southbound trains terminate at Court Square (23rd-Ely) and start back to Jamaica Center from there. Some trains run via the between Bergen Street and Roosevelt Avenue to accommodate re-routed trains. runs via the northbound between 47th-50th Street and 36th Street. Select trains run to 96th Street-2nd Avenue and terminate there. trains run to/from 96th Street-2nd Avenue and skips 49th Street in both directions. A supplemental shuttle runs between Queensboro Plaza and Ditmars Boulevard. runs as follows: Most trains via the 63rd Street tunnel southbound between 36th Street and 57th Street-7th Avenue. Some trains terminate at Lexington Avenue-60th Street on the Manhattan-bound track. runs at severely reduced levels on its regular route (additional trains terminate at 60th Street-Lexington Avenue on the Manhattan-bound track). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted February 12, 2020 Share #6178 Posted February 12, 2020 next: - flushing-bound runs past a mis-set switch at queensboro plaza, closing the queens-bound tracks of the . manhattan-bound NOT affected - the 53 st/6 av junction is crippled by hackers, causing major service disruptions on the ( not affected) - a work train stalls on the Williamsburg Bridge manhattan-bound, causing the complete closure of service manhattan-bound. brooklyn-bound not affected. - freak derailment south of jay st, knocking out the whole junction. reroute reroute: NB/EB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted February 13, 2020 Share #6179 Posted February 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Jova42R said: next: - flushing-bound runs past a mis-set switch at queensboro plaza, closing the queens-bound tracks of the . manhattan-bound NOT affected - the 53 st/6 av junction is crippled by hackers, causing major service disruptions on the ( not affected) - a work train stalls on the Williamsburg Bridge manhattan-bound, causing the complete closure of service manhattan-bound. brooklyn-bound not affected. - freak derailment south of jay st, knocking out the whole junction. reroute reroute: NB/EB : 59 to 205 : 42 to coney island : no service jay to bergen : local : forest hills 2 av via 63rd - limited service to metropolitan av single-tracked on the williamsburg bridge : hoyt to far rockaway, local, nb trains have bridgeplates at laffayette. bridgeplates in use sb from laffayette to kingston-throop : jay to 207 : 53rd/lex to jamaica center : jamaica center to marcy, limited service across the williamsburg bridge to broad st : bedford-nostrand to court sq : 2 sections: 61 to flushing, skipping 69, and hudson yards to court sq. limited service on the full line, single tracked at court sq and qb plaza. : some trains terminate at lex-59. some trains run to 96-2 on the . limited service single tracked in the 60 st tubes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted February 17, 2020 Share #6180 Posted February 17, 2020 next: - a train on the bay ridge branch hits the support of the Brighton Line at avenue H causing the complete closure of avenue H station and the line there. - signal problems at Canal St make all trains not be able to pass canal - a train runs past a mis-set switch, then stalls, causing the complete closure if Wall St Station (no turning at Wall) reroute: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted February 18, 2020 Share #6181 Posted February 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Jova42R said: next: - a train on the bay ridge branch hits the support of the Brighton Line at avenue H causing the complete closure of avenue H station and the line there. - signal problems at Canal St make all trains not be able to pass canal - a train runs past a mis-set switch, then stalls, causing the complete closure if Wall St Station (no turning at Wall) reroute: : 145 - PP or CI via West End : 96 - PP or CI via Sea Beach or West End / Kings Hwy - CI : 241 - Chambers / Atlantic - Flatbush : 148 - SF via : Woodlawn - 42 / BB or BG - NL : Dyre - 42 / BB or BG - Flatbush : PBP - 59 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I FORGOT Posted February 18, 2020 Share #6182 Posted February 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Jova42R said: next: - a train on the bay ridge branch hits the support of the Brighton Line at avenue H causing the complete closure of avenue H station and the line there. - signal problems at Canal St make all trains not be able to pass canal - a train runs past a mis-set switch, then stalls, causing the complete closure if Wall St Station (no turning at Wall) reroute: Bedford Park/145 - Prospect Park 96 - Prospect Park and Kings Hwy - Coney Island 241 - South Ferry, local 96-Chambers and Atlantic - Flatbush 148 - Chambers Woodlawn - 42 and Wall - New Lots, local Dyre - E 180 Pelham Bay Park - 42 suspended 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subway4832 Posted February 20, 2020 Share #6183 Posted February 20, 2020 On 2/17/2020 at 3:54 PM, Jova42R said: next: - a train on the bay ridge branch hits the support of the Brighton Line at avenue H causing the complete closure of avenue H station and the line there. - signal problems at Canal St make all trains not be able to pass canal - a train runs past a mis-set switch, then stalls, causing the complete closure if Wall St Station (no turning at Wall) reroute: -Suspended -96th to Stillwell, via West End or Sea Beach. Shuttle service operates between Kings Highway and Stillwell. operates in 2 sections: between NL and Brooklyn Bridge between Woodlawn and 86th Street. operates from Dyre to 86th Street, select trains end at E180th. between Brooklyn Bridge and Flatbush Ave. Pelham Bay Park to Grand Central, suspended. operates in 2 section: between 241st and South Ferry on the (local after 34th) between Atlantic Ave and Flatbush. 148th to 14th or Chambers Street, Brooklyn service suspended. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q23 via 108 Posted February 20, 2020 Share #6184 Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) What if the was to forced to stop trains from entering and leaving the Concourse Yard/Jerome Av yard for a serious repair. No trains coming out. How do you manage a shortage of cars to the . Concourse Yard has 276 R68s Jerome has 210 R142 and 220 R142A Edited February 20, 2020 by Q23 via 108 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6185 Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Q23 via 108 said: What if the was to forced to stop trains from entering and leaving the Concourse Yard/Jerome Av yard for a serious repair. No trains coming out. How do you manage a shortage of cars to the . Concourse Yard has 276 R68s Jerome has 210 R142 and 220 R142A trains run only from Woodlawn to 125. s are extended to 3 Av-149 St. Use service for is cut, cars to . All IRT spare cars except 30 to . Some cars to . Atlantic Av to Coney Island, runs fulltime to 205 St. Use for service. runs on reduced headways with R179s ONLY! All R32 s sent to the . runs on reduced headways, Court Sq to Carroll St. R46, and 1/2 of R68 from goes to , 1/2 of R68 to All Coney Island Yard Spares to R160s to . is cut. That should be enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence St Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6186 Posted February 21, 2020 The SAS Phase 1 opening was delayed by 4 years due to a serious issue with one of the station caverns. The tunnels have to rebuilt ASAP due to Hurrican Sandy repairs, and can no longer wait. This results in a full shutdown of the 14th St tubes. How would you provide alternatives, such as the with no SAS? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6187 Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Q23 via 108 said: What if the was to forced to stop trains from entering and leaving the Concourse Yard/Jerome Av yard for a serious repair. No trains coming out. How do you manage a shortage of cars to the . Concourse Yard has 276 R68s Jerome has 210 R142 and 220 R142A CI, JAM, Piktin, 207 train sets can be used on the as needed. Train sets would be stored at CI (4): Service would operate every 8 minutes during the AM and PM rush, every 10 minutes during midday hours, and every 12 minutes during evening and weekend hours from Woodlawn to 125th Street. (4): Additional service will be provided between 149th Street - GC and Utica Ave during the AM and PM rush, every 8 minutes. If really necessary: Weekdays : Service will operate to/from 168th Street, via CPW local. Weekdays: Service will operate to/from 145th Street. (B): Service will operate to/from 205th Street, via CPW express. Service operates every 6 minutes during AM and PM hours. There's no Bronx express during this time period. 47 minutes ago, Lawrence St said: The SAS Phase 1 opening was delayed by 4 years due to a serious issue with one of the station caverns. The tunnels have to rebuilt ASAP due to Hurrican Sandy repairs, and can no longer wait. This results in a full shutdown of the 14th St tubes. How would you provide alternatives, such as the with no SAS? trains run between Bedford Ave and Canarsie only. trains get full length cars. trains will operate to 145th Street, evenings and weekends. Obviously have the shuttle buses but with a tweak: L1: Bedford Ave - Marcy - Essex Street - Broadway Lafayette . L2: Metropolitan Ave - Marcy - Prince Street -------------------------------------- Here's one: It is Sunday at 2:00 AM. The Broadway Line express tracks is closed for track replacement. The 53rd Street tracks are closed for signal modernization. An urgent signal repair is needed at West 4th Street (6 Ave level only), meaning trains being rerouted down 6th Avenue needed to be rerouted. However, someone was struck by a train in the tunnel between Herald Square and Times Square. NYPD has requested power be cut. Two things: 1. You must first reroute all trains affected by the West 4th Street signal repair. 2. Using the reroutes from the first part, now reroute trains as a result of the NYPDs request. Edited February 21, 2020 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6188 Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Here's one: It is Sunday at 2:00 AM. The Broadway Line express tracks is closed for track replacement. The 53rd Street tracks are closed for signal modernization. An urgent signal repair is needed at West 4th Street (6 Ave level only), meaning trains being rerouted down 6th Avenue needed to be rerouted. However, someone was struck by a train in the tunnel between Herald Square and Times Square. NYPD has requested power be cut. Two things: 1. You must first reroute all trains affected by the West 4th Street signal repair. 2. Using the reroutes from the first part, now reroute trains as a result of the NYPDs request. so only rerouted trains need to be sent elsewhere ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwell179 Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6189 Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said: so only rerouted trains need to be sent elsewhere ? if so , First : via broadway local to their respective terminals via 63rd St signal repair : via 60th or via 63rd and then Broadway Local to Whitehall : Metro - Chambers via NYPD Request : via Bway Lcl & 63rd : 34 - BB : 205 - 42 / 34 - CI i didn’t really understand this so please correct me if this is wrong Edited February 21, 2020 by Maxwell179 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6190 Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said: so only rerouted trains need to be sent elsewhere ? It should have read "trains routed down 6th Avenue needed to be rerouted". For that scenario, you would need to reroute all trains using 6th Avenue first, taking into account everything mentioned previously up to that point. Using the reroutes you have for that, then reroute again, accounting for the Broadway Line closure. Edited February 21, 2020 by BM5 via Woodhaven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6191 Posted February 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Maxwell179 said: if so , First : via broadway local to their respective terminals via 63rd St signal repair : via 60th or via 63rd and then Broadway Local to Whitehall : Metro - Chambers via NYPD Request : via Bway Lcl & 63rd : 34 - BB : 205 - 42 / 34 - CI i didn’t really understand this so please correct me if this is wrong Check my above post. Sorry about the confusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6192 Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: -------------------------------------- Here's one: It is Sunday at 2:00 AM. The Broadway Line express tracks is closed for track replacement. The 53rd Street tracks are closed for signal modernization. An urgent signal repair is needed at West 4th Street (6 Ave level only), meaning trains being rerouted down 6th Avenue needed to be rerouted. However, someone was struck by a train in the tunnel between Herald Square and Times Square. NYPD has requested power be cut. Two things: 1. You must first reroute all trains affected by the West 4th Street signal repair. 2. Using the reroutes from the first part, now reroute trains as a result of the NYPDs request. I'm going to do all reroutes at once: : Astoria to 42, skips 49. : Whitehall to Coney Island : terminates at Delancey-Essex (via ) : via to 49. : some trains via 8 Av Local ( runs express), some trains 205-34, some trains Bway/Laffayette-Coney : some trains via from Bergen to 36, some trains Delancey-Coney, some trains 179-34. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6193 Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Jova42R said: I'm going to do all reroutes at once: : Astoria to 42, skips 49. : Whitehall to Coney Island : terminates at Delancey-Essex (via ) : via to 49. : some trains via 8 Av Local ( runs express), some trains 205-34, some trains Bway/Laffayette-Coney : some trains via from Bergen to 36, some trains Delancey-Coney, some trains 179-34. Doing everything as if it all happened at once misses the point. I never actually stated that the two incidents occurred one after the other. For consistency too, that's why I mentioned to have a plan for the signal repair, and then using that plan, reroute trains under the Broadway Line incident. With power cut, you can't use Times Square either. Whenever NYPD request a cut in power, large swaths of the line affected go. Don't know how you're terminating trains at 49th. You can't reroute trains via Nassau Street, because the platforms cannot hold a 600' long train. You need to specify whether NB and/or SB trains run via 8th Avenue local. NB trains cannot do so because West 4th is impassible from the 6th Ave tracks , and any SB trains would end up having to go via the into Brooklyn, so it's not like it can resume its regular route after West 4th Street. Edited February 21, 2020 by BM5 via Woodhaven 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6194 Posted February 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: With power cut, you can't use Times Square either. Whenever NYPD request a cut in power, large swaths of the line affected go. Don't know how you're terminating trains at 49th. You can't reroute trains via Nassau Street, because the platforms cannot hold a 600' long train. You need to specify whether NB and/or SB trains run via 8th Avenue local. NB trains cannot do so because West 4th is impassible from the 6th Ave tracks , and any SB trains would end up having to go via the into Brooklyn, so it's not like it can resume its regular route after West 4th Street. What happens with 2nd Avenue service? Ok, so s terminate at 57-7 or 49. s use the switches south of 57-7 s run with 7-car or 6-car trains s SB via 8 Av Local to WTC. NB from WTC. 2 Av: shuttle buses/use M15. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I FORGOT Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6195 Posted February 21, 2020 3 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said: Here's one: It is Sunday at 2:00 AM. The Broadway Line express tracks is closed for track replacement. The 53rd Street tracks are closed for signal modernization. An urgent signal repair is needed at West 4th Street (6 Ave level only), meaning trains being rerouted down 6th Avenue needed to be rerouted. However, someone was struck by a train in the tunnel between Herald Square and Times Square. NYPD has requested power be cut. Two things: 1. You must first reroute all trains affected by the West 4th Street signal repair. 2. Using the reroutes from the first part, now reroute trains as a result of the NYPDs request. Initial via 6 Avenue and 63rd via 63rd 1. via Broadway to Whitehall via 8 Avenue Exp and Culver Exp 36 - Coney Island via Crosstown 2. no service between Jackson Heights and Whitehall local in Queens Jackson Heights - 34 via 63rd no service between Whitehall and 57/7 no service between Prospect Park and 57/7 no service between 59 and Whitehall Final no service between Jackson Heights and Whitehall 205 - Coney Island via 8 Av Exp and Culver Exp 36 - Coney Island 179 - Coney Island via Queens Blvd Lcl and Crosstown Jackson Heights - 34 via 63rd Whitehall - Coney Island and 57/7 - Astoria-Ditmars Prospect Park - Coney Island and 57/7 - 96/2 59 - 95 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 21, 2020 Share #6196 Posted February 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jova42R said: Ok, so s terminate at 57-7 or 49. s use the switches south of 57-7 s run with 7-car or 6-car trains s SB via 8 Av Local to WTC. NB from WTC. 2 Av: shuttle buses/use M15. Taking cars out of trains just for a service change which may affect the for several hours, just to place them back at most is just unrealistic. Its labor intensive and a waste of time (and money). You don't even have the space to take trains out on the spot. Even if such a thing was done (which would never be considered), you also potentially changed the conductors position on the train. Also, R46s can't use Nassau Street. Getting creative with service patterns is one thing, but they also need to be doable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airplanepilotgod8888 Posted February 22, 2020 Share #6197 Posted February 22, 2020 Up next: Power outage effects all tracks on Manhattan bridge, uptown train stalls at Prince St. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted February 22, 2020 Share #6198 Posted February 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Airplanepilotgod8888 said: Up next: Power outage effects all tracks on Manhattan bridge, uptown train stalls at Prince St. terminates at 2 Av. Some trains run via the to Jay St, where they terminate. runs fulltime runs via the to Whitehall St, where it terminates runs in 2 sections: Canal (Tunnel) to Astoria CI to Atlantic via Montague. Some trains via sea Beach as . runs 34 to Forest Hills - use . A free shuttle bus will run from 59 St to 95 St. Another free bus runs from 34 St to Canal St making all local stops, in is suspended - use . A special bus runs from 2 Av , via Delancey St , Grand St and Canal St to Whitehall St . For service from 6 Av, take the or to Jay and change for the . Also consider taking the special bus from 2 Av to Whitehall, where you can get the . For service in Brooklyn, take the at Jay St. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted February 23, 2020 Share #6199 Posted February 23, 2020 Thought of a Scenario. Assuming that RBB is built as a subway and that the Brooklyn Bus Redesign is implemented: - A Full on Modernization Project to Modernize the and lines is in the Works between Jay Street-MetroTech inner Platforms and Utica Avenue as this is the first phase of a Fulton Street Modernization Project. This work includes Station Rehabilitations, ADA-Accessibility upgrades such as adding elevators, CBTC Work, Adding new Turnstiles, better Security features, etc. - Meanwhile, Construction is being Done between the Bergen Street interlockings because of reported complaints at said location. - The Rutgers Street Tunnel gets fully closed for Reconstruction between 2nd Avenue and Jay Street. The duration of this project is 15 months. This work includes power upgrades, Cable and Signal Replacements, and ADA-Upgrades at York Street and East Broadway. TRICK!! Reroute everything WITHOUT having TOO MANY merges! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jova42R Posted February 23, 2020 Share #6200 Posted February 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said: Thought of a Scenario. Assuming that RBB is built as a subway and that the Brooklyn Bus Redesign is implemented: - A Full on Modernization Project to Modernize the and lines is in the Works between Jay Street-MetroTech inner Platforms and Utica Avenue as this is the first phase of a Fulton Street Modernization Project. This work includes Station Rehabilitations, ADA-Accessibility upgrades such as adding elevators, CBTC Work, Adding new Turnstiles, better Security features, etc. - Meanwhile, Construction is being Done between the Bergen Street interlockings because of reported complaints at said location. - The Rutgers Street Tunnel gets fully closed for Reconstruction between 2nd Avenue and Jay Street. The duration of this project is 15 months. This work includes power upgrades, Cable and Signal Replacements, and ADA-Upgrades at York Street and East Broadway. TRICK!! Reroute everything WITHOUT having TOO MANY merges! Assuming here that RBB (I'm listing it as the ) has a full connection with the , then runs QBL local: : Far Rock to Aqueduct, then via to Jackson Heights, then via the to 57-7, free transfer to at 57-7. : Jay to 207, connect with at 59. : 2 sections: CI to 179 via Cranberry 179 to E Bway : Bedford-Nostrand to Court Sq Franklin Av would run fulltime. Consider using the to the . A special train would run from Church Av (with a free OOS transfer to the at Church, use the , which will allow for 3 transfers) to 207 St on the following routing: via to W4 St via to 59 St via to 207 St Shuttle Buses: Route #1: Utica Kingston-Throop Nostrand Franklin Clinton Laffayette Hoyt-Schemerhorn Jay Route #2: Utica Bedford-Nostrand Hoyt-Schemerhorn Jay York Route #3: Bedford-Nostrand Classon Clinton-Washington Fulton Hoyt-Schemerhorn Bergen Route #4: Jay York via Manhattan Bridge E Bway 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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