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23 hours ago, Jova42R said:

Next:

  • A (5) train derails south of Boro Hall, causing major damage to every track.
  • There is a broken rail in the Queens-bound 53 St Tubes, causing the closure of the Queens-bound tubes (MANHATTAN-BOUND NOT AFFECTED!).
  • A work train stalls in the 60 St Tubes Manhattan-bound, causing the closure of the Manhattan-bound tubes (QUEENS-BOUND NOT AFFECTED!)
  • The north side of the Manhattan Bridge is closed, so no (B)(D) trains can run through

Reroute: (2)(3)(4)(5)(B)(D), SB (N)(R)(W), NB (E)(M)

This will be fun:

(2) runs in two sections:
241st Street-Chambers Street (some trains continue to Wall Street or Borough Hall OR to South Ferry on the (1), trains run local south of Times Square)
Nevins Street-Flatbush Avenue.

(3) runs from 148th Street-14th Street ONLY!

(4) runs in two sections:
Woodlawn-Borough Hall
Nevins St.-New Lots Avenue, replacing the (3) as a local throughout.

(5) runs in two sections:
Dyre Avenue-Borough Hall (some trains terminate at Brooklyn Bridge)
Atlantic Avenue-Flatbush Avenue (some trains run to Utica Avenue)


(B) runs LIMITED service from Grand Street-145th Street or Bedford Park Boulevard ONLY (additional trains terminate and begin at Broadway-Lafayette or 2nd Avenue).

(D) runs as follows:
LIMITED service from Grand Street-205th Street (additional trains terminate and begin at Broadway-Lafayette or 2nd Avenue).
Some trains from 96th Street-2nd Avenue to Coney Island via the (Q) and (N) to 36th Street in Brooklyn.
Some trains run via the (A) and (C) to Euclid Avenue in Brooklyn

(E) runs as follows:
Some trains run northbound via 6th Avenue and 63rd Street between West 4th Street and Roosevelt Avenue
Some trains run northbound to Lexington Avenue-53rd Street and terminate there.
Some southbound trains terminate at Court Square (23rd-Ely) and start back to Jamaica Center from there.

Some (F) trains run via the (G) between Bergen Street and Roosevelt Avenue to accommodate re-routed trains.

(M) runs via the (F) northbound between 47th-50th Street and 36th Street.
Select trains run to 96th Street-2nd Avenue and terminate there.

(N) trains run to/from 96th Street-2nd Avenue and skips 49th Street in both directions.
A supplemental (N) shuttle runs between Queensboro Plaza and Ditmars Boulevard.

(R) runs as follows:
Most trains via the 63rd Street tunnel southbound between 36th Street and 57th Street-7th Avenue.
Some trains terminate at Lexington Avenue-60th Street on the Manhattan-bound track.

(W) runs at severely reduced levels on its regular route (additional trains terminate at 60th Street-Lexington Avenue on the Manhattan-bound track).

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next:

- flushing-bound (7) runs past a mis-set switch at queensboro plaza, closing the queens-bound tracks of the (7)<7>(N)(W). manhattan-bound NOT affected

- the 53 st/6 av junction is crippled by hackers, causing major service disruptions on the (B)(D)(E)(M) ((F)<F> not affected)

- a work train stalls on the Williamsburg Bridge manhattan-bound, causing the complete closure of (J)(M)(Z) service manhattan-bound. brooklyn-bound not affected.

- freak derailment south of jay st, knocking out the whole junction. reroute (A)(C)(F)<F>(G)

reroute: (B)(D)(F)<F>(M)(A)(C)(E)(J)(Z)(G) NB/EB (7)<7>(N)(W)

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2 hours ago, Jova42R said:

next:

- flushing-bound (7) runs past a mis-set switch at queensboro plaza, closing the queens-bound tracks of the (7)<7>(N)(W). manhattan-bound NOT affected

- the 53 st/6 av junction is crippled by hackers, causing major service disruptions on the (B)(D)(E)(M) ((F)<F> not affected)

- a work train stalls on the Williamsburg Bridge manhattan-bound, causing the complete closure of (J)(M)(Z) service manhattan-bound. brooklyn-bound not affected.

- freak derailment south of jay st, knocking out the whole junction. reroute (A)(C)(F)<F>(G)

reroute: (B)(D)(F)<F>(M)(A)(C)(E)(J)(Z)(G) NB/EB (7)<7>(N)(W)

(B): 59 to 205

(D): 42 to coney island

(F): no service jay to bergen

<F>: local

(M): forest hills 2 av via 63rd - limited service to metropolitan av single-tracked on the williamsburg bridge

(A): hoyt to far rockaway, local, nb trains have bridgeplates at laffayette. bridgeplates in use sb from laffayette to kingston-throop

(C): jay to 207

(E): 53rd/lex to jamaica center

(J)(Z): jamaica center to marcy, limited service across the williamsburg bridge to broad st

(G): bedford-nostrand to court sq

(7)<7>: 2 sections: 61 to flushing, skipping 69, and hudson yards to court sq. limited service on the full line, single tracked at court sq and qb plaza.

(N)(W): some trains terminate at lex-59. some trains run to 96-2 on the (Q). limited service single tracked in the 60 st tubes.

 

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next:

- a train on the bay ridge branch hits the support of the Brighton Line at avenue H causing the complete closure of avenue H station and the (B)(Q) line there.

- signal problems at Canal St make all (4)(5)(6)<6> trains not be able to pass canal

- a (3) train runs past a mis-set switch, then stalls, causing the complete closure if Wall St Station (no turning at Wall)

reroute: (2)(3)(4)(5)(6)<6>(B)(Q)

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8 hours ago, Jova42R said:

next:

- a train on the bay ridge branch hits the support of the Brighton Line at avenue H causing the complete closure of avenue H station and the (B)(Q) line there.

- signal problems at Canal St make all (4)(5)(6)<6> trains not be able to pass canal

- a (3) train runs past a mis-set switch, then stalls, causing the complete closure if Wall St Station (no turning at Wall)

reroute: (2)(3)(4)(5)(6)<6>(B)(Q)

(B) : 145 - PP or CI via West End

(Q) : 96 - PP or CI via Sea Beach or West End / Kings Hwy - CI

(2) : 241 - Chambers / Atlantic - Flatbush 

(3) : 148 - SF via (1) 

(4) : Woodlawn - 42 / BB or BG - NL

(5) : Dyre - 42 / BB or BG - Flatbush

(6) : PBP - 59

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8 hours ago, Jova42R said:

next:

- a train on the bay ridge branch hits the support of the Brighton Line at avenue H causing the complete closure of avenue H station and the (B)(Q) line there.

- signal problems at Canal St make all (4)(5)(6)<6> trains not be able to pass canal

- a (3) train runs past a mis-set switch, then stalls, causing the complete closure if Wall St Station (no turning at Wall)

reroute: (2)(3)(4)(5)(6)<6>(B)(Q)

(B) Bedford Park/145 - Prospect Park

(Q) 96 - Prospect Park and Kings Hwy - Coney Island

(2) 241 - South Ferry, local 96-Chambers and Atlantic - Flatbush
(3) 148 - Chambers

(4) Woodlawn - 42 and Wall - New Lots, local
(5) Dyre - E 180
(6) Pelham Bay Park - 42
<6> suspended

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On 2/17/2020 at 3:54 PM, Jova42R said:

next:

- a train on the bay ridge branch hits the support of the Brighton Line at avenue H causing the complete closure of avenue H station and the (B)(Q) line there.

- signal problems at Canal St make all (4)(5)(6)<6> trains not be able to pass canal

- a (3) train runs past a mis-set switch, then stalls, causing the complete closure if Wall St Station (no turning at Wall)

reroute: (2)(3)(4)(5)(6)<6>(B)(Q)

(B)-Suspended

(Q)-96th to Stillwell, via West End or Sea Beach. 

      Shuttle service operates between Kings Highway and Stillwell. 

(4) operates in 2 sections: between NL and Brooklyn Bridge

     between Woodlawn and 86th Street.

(5) operates from Dyre to 86th Street, select trains end at E180th. 

      between Brooklyn Bridge and Flatbush Ave.

(6) Pelham Bay Park to Grand Central, <6> suspended.

 

:15x15_px_02: operates in 2 section: between 241st and South Ferry on the :15x15_px_01: (local after 34th)

     between Atlantic Ave and Flatbush.

 

(3) 148th to 14th or Chambers Street, Brooklyn service suspended.

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What if the (MTA) was to forced to stop trains from entering and leaving the Concourse Yard/Jerome Av yard for a serious repair. No trains coming out. How do you manage a shortage of cars to the (4) (D).

 

Concourse Yard has 276 R68s

Jerome has 210 R142 and 220 R142A

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2 hours ago, Q23 via 108 said:

What if the (MTA) was to forced to stop trains from entering and leaving the Concourse Yard/Jerome Av yard for a serious repair. No trains coming out. How do you manage a shortage of cars to the (4) (D).

 

Concourse Yard has 276 R68s

Jerome has 210 R142 and 220 R142A

(4) trains run only from Woodlawn to 125.

(3)s are extended to 3 Av-149 St.

Use (5)(3) service for (4)

<6> is cut, <6> cars to (4).

All IRT spare cars except 30 to (4).

Some <7> cars to (4).

(D) Atlantic Av to Coney Island, (B) runs fulltime to 205 St. Use (R)(B)(A) for service.

(C) runs on reduced headways with R179s ONLY!

All R32 (C)s sent to the (D).

(G) runs on reduced headways, Court Sq to Carroll St. R46, and 1/2 of R68 from (G) goes to (D), 1/2 of R68 to (C)

All Coney Island Yard Spares to (D)

<F> R160s to (D). <F> is cut.

That should be enough

 

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The SAS Phase 1 opening was delayed by 4 years due to a serious issue with one of the station caverns. The (L) tunnels have to rebuilt ASAP due to Hurrican Sandy repairs, and can no longer wait. This results in a full shutdown of the 14th St tubes.

How would you provide alternatives, such as the (M) with no SAS?

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21 hours ago, Q23 via 108 said:

What if the (MTA) was to forced to stop trains from entering and leaving the Concourse Yard/Jerome Av yard for a serious repair. No trains coming out. How do you manage a shortage of cars to the (4) (D).

 

Concourse Yard has 276 R68s

Jerome has 210 R142 and 220 R142A

CI, JAM, Piktin, 207 train sets can be used on the (D) as needed. Train sets would be stored at CI

 

(4): Service would operate every 8 minutes during the AM and PM rush, every 10 minutes during midday hours, and every 12 minutes during evening and weekend hours from Woodlawn to 125th Street. 

(4): Additional service will be provided between 149th Street - GC and Utica Ave during the AM and PM rush, every 8 minutes. 

 

If really necessary: 

(D) Weekdays : Service will operate to/from 168th Street, via CPW local. 

(C) Weekdays: Service will operate to/from 145th Street. 

(B): Service will operate to/from 205th Street, via CPW express. Service operates every 6 minutes during AM and PM hours. 

There's no Bronx express during this time period.

47 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

The SAS Phase 1 opening was delayed by 4 years due to a serious issue with one of the station caverns. The (L) tunnels have to rebuilt ASAP due to Hurrican Sandy repairs, and can no longer wait. This results in a full shutdown of the 14th St tubes.

How would you provide alternatives, such as the (M) with no SAS?

(L) trains run between Bedford Ave and Canarsie only.

(G) trains get full length cars.

(M) trains will operate to 145th Street, evenings and weekends.

Obviously have the shuttle buses but with a tweak:

L1: Bedford Ave - Marcy (J)(M)(Z) - Essex Street (F)(J)(M)(Z) - Broadway Lafayette (B)(D)(F)(M)(6)

L2: Metropolitan Ave (L)(G) - Marcy (J)(M)(Z) - Prince Street (N)(R)(W)

 

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Here's one:

It is Sunday at 2:00 AM.

The Broadway Line express tracks is closed for track replacement. The 53rd Street tracks are closed for signal modernization. An urgent signal repair is needed at West 4th Street (6 Ave level only), meaning trains being rerouted down 6th Avenue needed to be rerouted.

However, someone was struck by a train in the tunnel between Herald Square and Times Square. NYPD has requested power be cut. 

 

Two things: 

1. You must first reroute all trains affected by the West 4th Street signal repair.

2. Using the reroutes from the first part, now reroute trains as a result of the NYPDs request.

 

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1 hour ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Here's one:

It is Sunday at 2:00 AM.

The Broadway Line express tracks is closed for track replacement. The 53rd Street tracks are closed for signal modernization. An urgent signal repair is needed at West 4th Street (6 Ave level only), meaning trains being rerouted down 6th Avenue needed to be rerouted.

However, someone was struck by a train in the tunnel between Herald Square and Times Square. NYPD has requested power be cut. 

 

Two things: 

1. You must first reroute all trains affected by the West 4th Street signal repair.

2. Using the reroutes from the first part, now reroute trains as a result of the NYPDs request.

 

so only rerouted trains need to be sent elsewhere ?

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8 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said:

so only rerouted trains need to be sent elsewhere ?

if so ,

First

(N)(Q) via broadway local to their respective terminals

(E)(M) via 63rd St 

signal repair :

(E) via 60th or via 63rd and then Broadway Local  to Whitehall 

(M) : Metro - Chambers via (J) 

NYPD Request

(E)(F) via Bway Lcl & 63rd

(B) : 34 - BB

(D) : 205 - 42 / 34 - CI


i didn’t really understand this so please correct me if this is wrong

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10 minutes ago, Maxwell179 said:

so only rerouted trains need to be sent elsewhere ?

It should have read "trains routed down 6th Avenue needed to be rerouted". For that scenario, you would need to reroute all trains using 6th Avenue first, taking into account everything mentioned previously up to that point. Using the reroutes you have for that, then reroute again, accounting for the Broadway Line closure. 

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1 minute ago, Maxwell179 said:

if so ,

First

(N)(Q) via broadway local to their respective terminals

(E)(M) via 63rd St 

signal repair :

(E) via 60th or via 63rd and then Broadway Local  to Whitehall 

(M) : Metro - Chambers via (J) 

NYPD Request

(E)(F) via Bway Lcl & 63rd

(B) : 34 - BB

(D) : 205 - 42 / 34 - CI


i didn’t really understand this so please correct me if this is wrong

Check my above post. Sorry about the confusion. 

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2 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

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Here's one:

It is Sunday at 2:00 AM.

The Broadway Line express tracks is closed for track replacement. The 53rd Street tracks are closed for signal modernization. An urgent signal repair is needed at West 4th Street (6 Ave level only), meaning trains being rerouted down 6th Avenue needed to be rerouted.

However, someone was struck by a train in the tunnel between Herald Square and Times Square. NYPD has requested power be cut. 

 

Two things: 

1. You must first reroute all trains affected by the West 4th Street signal repair.

2. Using the reroutes from the first part, now reroute trains as a result of the NYPDs request.

 

I'm going to do all reroutes at once:

(N): Astoria to 42, skips 49.

(Q): Whitehall (R) to Coney Island

(R): terminates at Delancey-Essex (via (J))

(E): via (R) to 49.

(D): some trains via 8 Av Local ((A) runs express), some trains 205-34, some trains Bway/Laffayette-Coney

(F): some trains via (G) from Bergen to 36, some trains Delancey-Coney, some trains 179-34.

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44 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

I'm going to do all reroutes at once:

(N): Astoria to 42, skips 49.

(Q): Whitehall (R) to Coney Island

(R): terminates at Delancey-Essex (via (J))

(E): via (R) to 49.

(D): some trains via 8 Av Local ((A) runs express), some trains 205-34, some trains Bway/Laffayette-Coney

(F): some trains via (G) from Bergen to 36, some trains Delancey-Coney, some trains 179-34.

Doing everything as if it all happened at once misses the point. I never actually stated that the two incidents occurred one after the other. For consistency too, that's why I mentioned to have a plan for the signal repair, and then using that plan, reroute trains under the Broadway Line incident. 

With power cut, you can't use Times Square either. Whenever NYPD request a cut in power, large swaths of the line affected go.

Don't know how you're terminating (E) trains at 49th. 

You can't reroute (R) trains via Nassau Street, because the platforms cannot hold a 600' long train.

You need to specify whether NB and/or SB (D) trains run via 8th Avenue local. NB trains cannot do so because West 4th is impassible from the 6th Ave tracks , and any SB trains would end up having to go via the (A) into Brooklyn, so it's not like it can resume its regular route after West 4th Street.

 

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4 minutes ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

With power cut, you can't use Times Square either. Whenever NYPD request a cut in power, large swaths of the line affected go.

Don't know how you're terminating (E) trains at 49th. 

You can't reroute (R) trains via Nassau Street, because the platforms cannot hold a 600' long train.

You need to specify whether NB and/or SB (D) trains run via 8th Avenue local. NB trains cannot do so because West 4th is impassible from the 6th Ave tracks , and any SB trains would end up having to go via the (A) into Brooklyn, so it's not like it can resume its regular route after West 4th Street.

What happens with 2nd Avenue service?

Ok, so (N)s terminate at 57-7 or 49.

(E)s use the switches south of 57-7

(R)s run with 7-car or 6-car trains

(D)s SB via 8 Av Local to WTC. NB from WTC.

2 Av: shuttle buses/use M15.

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3 hours ago, BM5 via Woodhaven said:

Here's one:

It is Sunday at 2:00 AM.

The Broadway Line express tracks is closed for track replacement. The 53rd Street tracks are closed for signal modernization. An urgent signal repair is needed at West 4th Street (6 Ave level only), meaning trains being rerouted down 6th Avenue needed to be rerouted.

However, someone was struck by a train in the tunnel between Herald Square and Times Square. NYPD has requested power be cut. 

 

Two things: 

1. You must first reroute all trains affected by the West 4th Street signal repair.

2. Using the reroutes from the first part, now reroute trains as a result of the NYPDs request.

 

Initial

(E) via 6 Avenue and 63rd

(F) via 63rd

1.

(E) via Broadway to Whitehall

(D) via 8 Avenue Exp and Culver Exp
(D) 36 - Coney Island
(F) via Crosstown

2.

(E) no service between Jackson Heights and Whitehall

(F) local in Queens
(F) Jackson Heights - 34 via 63rd

(N) no service between Whitehall and 57/7 
(Q) no service between Prospect Park and 57/7
(R) no service between 59 and Whitehall

Final

(E) no service between Jackson Heights and Whitehall

(D) 205 - Coney Island via 8 Av Exp and Culver Exp
(D) 36 - Coney Island
(F) 179 - Coney Island via Queens Blvd Lcl and Crosstown
(F) Jackson Heights - 34 via 63rd

(N) Whitehall - Coney Island and 57/7 - Astoria-Ditmars
(Q) Prospect Park - Coney Island and 57/7 - 96/2
(R) 59 - 95

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3 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

Ok, so (N)s terminate at 57-7 or 49.

(E)s use the switches south of 57-7

(R)s run with 7-car or 6-car trains

(D)s SB via 8 Av Local to WTC. NB from WTC.

2 Av: shuttle buses/use M15.

 

Taking cars out of trains just for a service change which may affect the (R) for several hours, just to place them back at most is just unrealistic. Its labor intensive and a waste of time (and money). You don't even have the space to take trains out on the spot. Even if such a thing was done (which would never be considered), you also potentially changed the conductors position on the train. Also, R46s can't use Nassau Street. Getting creative with service patterns is one thing, but they also need to be doable. 

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11 hours ago, Airplanepilotgod8888 said:

 

Up next:

 

Power outage effects all tracks on Manhattan bridge, uptown (R) train stalls at Prince St.

(B) terminates at 2 Av. Some trains run via the (F) to Jay St, where they terminate.

(B) runs fulltime

(D) runs via the (R) to Whitehall St, where it terminates

(N) runs in 2 sections:

Canal (Tunnel) to Astoria

CI to Atlantic

(Q) via Montague. Some trains via sea Beach as (N).

(R) runs 34 to Forest Hills - use (N). A free shuttle bus will run from 59 St to 95 St. Another free bus runs from 34 St to Canal St making all local stops, in 

(W) is suspended - use (N).

A special bus runs from 2 Av (B)(F), via Delancey St (F)(B)(M)(J)(Z), Grand St and Canal St (N)(Q)(J)(Z)(6) to Whitehall St (D)(Q).

For (D) service from 6 Av, take the (F) or (B) to Jay and change for the (D). Also consider taking the special bus from 2 Av to Whitehall, where you can get the (D). For (B) service in Brooklyn, take the (Q) at Jay St.

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Thought of a Scenario. 

Assuming that RBB is built as a subway and that the Brooklyn Bus Redesign is implemented: 

- A Full on Modernization Project to Modernize the (A) and (C) lines is in the Works between Jay Street-MetroTech inner Platforms and Utica Avenue as this is the first phase of a Fulton Street Modernization Project. This work includes Station Rehabilitations, ADA-Accessibility upgrades such as adding elevators, CBTC Work, Adding new Turnstiles, better Security features, etc. 

- Meanwhile, Construction is being Done between the Bergen Street interlockings because of reported complaints at said location. 

- The Rutgers Street Tunnel gets fully closed for Reconstruction between 2nd Avenue and Jay Street. The duration of this project is 15 months. This work includes power upgrades, Cable and Signal Replacements, and ADA-Upgrades at York Street and East Broadway.

TRICK!! Reroute everything WITHOUT having TOO MANY merges! 

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34 minutes ago, LaGuardia Link N Tra said:

Thought of a Scenario. 

Assuming that RBB is built as a subway and that the Brooklyn Bus Redesign is implemented: 

- A Full on Modernization Project to Modernize the (A) and (C) lines is in the Works between Jay Street-MetroTech inner Platforms and Utica Avenue as this is the first phase of a Fulton Street Modernization Project. This work includes Station Rehabilitations, ADA-Accessibility upgrades such as adding elevators, CBTC Work, Adding new Turnstiles, better Security features, etc. 

- Meanwhile, Construction is being Done between the Bergen Street interlockings because of reported complaints at said location. 

- The Rutgers Street Tunnel gets fully closed for Reconstruction between 2nd Avenue and Jay Street. The duration of this project is 15 months. This work includes power upgrades, Cable and Signal Replacements, and ADA-Upgrades at York Street and East Broadway.

TRICK!! Reroute everything WITHOUT having TOO MANY merges! 

Assuming here that RBB (I'm listing it as the (TT)) has a full connection with the (A), then runs QBL local:

(A): Far Rock to Aqueduct, then via (TT) to Jackson Heights, then via the (F)(Q) to 57-7, free transfer to (C) at 57-7.

(C): Jay to 207, connect with (A) at 59.

(F): 2 sections:

  • CI to 179 via Cranberry
  • 179 to E Bway

(G): Bedford-Nostrand to Court Sq

Franklin Av (S) would run fulltime.

Consider using the (S) to the (B)(Q). A special :CC: train would run from Church Av (B)(Q) (with a free OOS transfer to the (F)<F> at Church, use the :bus_bullet_b35:, which will allow for 3 transfers) to 207 St on the following routing:

via (B) to W4 St

via (C) to 59 St

via (A) to 207 St

Shuttle Buses:

Route #1:

  • Utica (A)
  • Kingston-Throop
  • Nostrand
  • Franklin (S)
  • Clinton
  • Laffayette
  • Hoyt-Schemerhorn
  • Jay (C)(F)<F>

Route #2:

  • Utica (A)
  • Bedford-Nostrand (G)
  • Hoyt-Schemerhorn
  • Jay (C)(F)<F>
  • York

Route #3:

  • Bedford-Nostrand (G)
  • Classon
  • Clinton-Washington
  • Fulton
  • Hoyt-Schemerhorn
  • Bergen (F)

Route #4:

  • Jay (C)(F)<F>
  • York
    • via Manhattan Bridge
  • E Bway (F)
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