official Subway - What If?

[Gorgor]

Due to a strange blizzard, both branches of the WPR are impassible north of 180th. Same with the Manhattan-bound local between Zegera and Castle Hill Avenue.

 

terminate at 180th Street

Manhattan bound runs express between Pelham Bay Park and Parkchester

[CDTA]

Due to a strange blizzard, both branches of the WPR are impassible north of 180th. Same with the Manhattan-bound local between Zegera and Castle Hill Avenue.

 

Downtown trains run express between Pelham Bay Park and Parkchester

 

PM Rush hours only:

Terminates at Westchester Square

Runs local after Hunts Point Ave

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Terminates at E180th, with select trains terminating at Freeman St

Does not bypass 138th St

Terminates at 149th St on the , with select trains terminating at Freeman St

[ttcsubwayfan]

Due to a strange blizzard, both branches of the WPR are impassible north of 180th. Same with the Manhattan-bound local between Zegera and Castle Hill Avenue.

 

 

Flatbush - 180 St

Flatbush - 180 St

Parkchester - Brooklyn Bridge

[Threxx]

Haven't done this in a while...

 

Because of construction along 4th Avenue and West End, all switches are unusable between 25th Street and 59th Street, and on the West End line to 62nd Street.

 

Reroute trains.

[Drag0nflamez]

Haven't done this in a while...

 

Because of construction along 4th Avenue and West End, all switches are unusable between 25th Street and 59th Street, and on the West End line to 62nd Street.

 

Reroute trains.

 

terminating at 59th St, a single track shuttle runs between Coney Island and 59th Street.

[Threxx]

terminating at 59th St, a single track shuttle runs between Coney Island and 59th Street.

 

 

What about the ?

[Gorgor]

Haven't done this in a while...

 

Because of construction along 4th Avenue and West End, all switches are unusable between 25th Street and 59th Street, and on the West End line to 62nd Street.

 

Reroute trains.

 

 

runs via the between 36th St and Coney Island

shuttle runs between 62 st and Coney Island (runs express between Bay Pkwy and 62 St northbound)

[Threxx]

runs via the between 36th St and Coney Island

shuttle runs between 62 st and Coney Island (runs express between Bay Pkwy and 62 St northbound)

 

 

What about the ... i meant to say south of 59th Street, if that wasn't clear.

[Brighton Express]

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Due to a switch problem, the 6 Av side of the Manhattan Bridge is set towards Brighton. We want to try and keep one Express and one Local on the Brighton please. 2 Express trains and 1 Local are fine, 2 Locals and one Express are also fine.

Edited November 25, 2012 by Brighton Express

[Drag0nflamez]

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Due to a switch problem, the 6 Av side of the Manhattan Bridge is set towards Brighton. We want to try and keep one Express and one Local on the Brighton please. 2 Express trains and 1 Local are fine, 2 Locals and one Express are also fine.

 

Brighton Express, becomes the Brighton Local, via the West End. Simple.

[Quill Depot]

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Good morning, you just got a call that there will be no power at Chambers Street-WTC for today, and you need to reroute A, C, and E trains! Get to work, you have 10 minutes.

[CDTA]

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Good morning, you just got a call that there will be no power at Chambers Street-WTC for today, and you need to reroute A, C, and E trains! Get to work, you have 10 minutes.

 

Via Rutgers

Two parts; 168th St-Canal St, Jay St-Euclid Ave (It can terminate at Jay St without interfiering with service, as long as it relays on the northbound track)

To 34th St

Via 53rd St

Two parts; Forest Hills-57th St, Metropolitan Ave-Broad St (It's tempting to have it loop around via Broadway, but we all know that wouldn't help anybody.)

 

Please expect delays on the , , and trains.

[Fresh Pond]

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Good morning, you just got a call that there will be no power at Chambers Street-WTC for today, and you need to reroute A, C, and E trains! Get to work, you have 10 minutes.

 

 

Shit, let's go out on a limb here...

 

via Rutgers, and 8 Av local

suspended

via Queens Blvd local, Rutgers and Fulton local to Euclid Av...every other train to 2 Av since Rutgers can't handle the and at once lol

Metropolitan to Essex St

 

...expect monumental delays on the and for now

[BM5 via Woodhaven]

Shit, let's go out on a limb here...

 

via Rutgers, and 8 Av local

suspended

via Queens Blvd local, Rutgers and Fulton local to Euclid Av...every other train to 2 Av since Rutgers can't handle the and at once lol

Metropolitan to Essex St

 

...expect monumental delays on the and for now

 

 

Continuing from Fresh Pond's Solution, a has been spotted with rollsigns saying far rockaway and it's turning violent (do people have common knowledge to know that it's impossible to go by train to the Rockaways via Broad Channel), and there is a big riot happen since this train was rerouted on the due to a stalled train. The Train is stalled at Delancey -Essex. No trains can pass southbound via Rutgers, reroute away, and this is still going on

 

NEXT:

 

Good morning, you just got a call that there will be no power at Chambers Street-WTC for today, and you need to reroute A, C, and E trains! Get to work, you have 10 minutes.

 

Edited November 29, 2012 by Q23 Central Terminal

[Wallyhorse]

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Good morning, you just got a call that there will be no power at Chambers Street-WTC for today, and you need to reroute A, C, and E trains! Get to work, you have 10 minutes.

 

operates via the from West 4th Street-Jay Street and operate local from 168th Street-West 4th Street in both directions.

 

operates in Brooklyn ONLY from High Street-Brooklyn Bridge-Euclid Avenue

 

operates normally to 34th Street, stopping on the express track at 42nd and 34th Street, then operates to Canal Street via the uptown express track. Returning to Queens, the operates normal service between Canal Street and Jamaica Center ( trains stop at Spring and 23rd Streets in the uptown direction ONLY, trains will stop at 23rd Street going downtown).

 

Special single track shuttle operates from Fulton Street, Manhattan to High Street, Brooklyn.

 

Please expect considerable delays in service during this period.

[Gorgor]

operates normally to 34th Street, stopping on the express track at 42nd and 34th Street, then operates to Canal Street via the uptown express track. Returning to Queens, the operates normal service between Canal Street and Jamaica Center ( trains stop at Spring and 23rd Streets in the uptown direction ONLY, trains will stop at 23rd Street going downtown).

 

 

Downtown trains run via the uptown express track? What's wrong with the downtown express track, or for that matter what's wrong with the downtown local track?

 

This is beyond retarded.

[Wallyhorse]

Downtown trains run via the uptown express track? What's wrong with the downtown express track, or for that matter what's wrong with the downtown local track?

 

This is beyond retarded.

 

Has to specifically do with the way the track switches are set up. The Midtown and Downtown track maps show this.

 

Coming out of Penn Station, there are switches on the downtown express track that would in this scenario allow the to access the uptown express track, allowing the to run wrong-railed to Canal Street and use either track on the uptown platform to terminate since the switches are NORTH of Canal on the uptown side as opposed to SOUTH of Canal as they are on the downtown side.

 

The key to this is Chambers Street having no power. Since that is the case, I would think that it would make it impossible to switch south of Canal, which is why I do it the way I do.

Edited November 29, 2012 by Wallyhorse

[Gorgor]

Has to specifically do with the way the track switches are set up. The Midtown and Downtown track maps show this.

 

Coming out of Penn Station, there are switches on the downtown express track that would in this scenario allow the to access the uptown express track, allowing the to run wrong-railed to Canal Street and use either track on the uptown platform to terminate since the switches are NORTH of Canal on the uptown side as opposed to SOUTH of Canal as they are on the downtown side.

 

The key to this is Chambers Street having no power. Since that is the case, I would think that it would make it impossible to switch south of Canal, which is why I do it the way I do.

 

 

Yes, I'm well aware that the switches do in fact exist, but that doesn't mean that you have to send something down there, especially when there's already uptown trains heading up from before the incident occurred.

 

There are perfectly good and working switches right south of Canal. The problem says that "there will be no power at Chambers Street-WTC" only; nothing about any switches not working.

 

Logic is your friend. Don't defy it just for the sake of defying it.

[Fresh Pond]

 

 

Continuing from Fresh Pond's Solution, a has been spotted with rollsigns saying far rockaway and it's turning violent (do people have common knowledge to know that it's impossible to go by train to the Rockaways via Broad Channel), and there is a big riot happen since this train was rerouted on the due to a stalled train. The Train is stalled at Delancey -Essex. No trains can pass southbound via Rutgers, reroute away, and this is still going on

 

...Jay St to Queens, Canal St to 207 St via local (relay using that 3rd track between Chambers & Canal)

...Still suspended

...Penn Station to Jamaica Center via 8 Av express

...179 St to 2 Av, York St to Coney Island

...normal (surprisingly lol)

[CDTA]

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Due to T/O training the Queens-bound QBL local track is not usable from Northern Blvd, to Forest Hills. This will occur for 5 days, overnight. (What I mean by overnight is by the time the and stop running.) This is not an emergency, this is planned. Re-route trains.

[Threxx]

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Due to T/O training the Queens-bound QBL local track is not usable from Northern Blvd, to Forest Hills. This will occur for 5 days, overnight. (What I mean by overnight is by the time the and stop running.) This is not an emergency, this is planned. Re-route trains.

 

 

trains run express, Queens-bound between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills.

[Threxx]

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A power outage cripples lower Manhattan. All trains south of Chambers Street must be rerouted. The only open line is the Montague Street tunnel. Reroute trains.

[CDTA]

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A power outage cripples lower Manhattan. All trains south of Chambers Street must be rerouted. The only open line is the Montague Street tunnel. Reroute trains.

 

Via Rutgers, local from 59th St to West 4th

168th St-Chambers St (Canal St if Chambers St is not usable), Jay St-Euclid Ave

Jamaica-34th St (Stops at the express tracks at 34th St, and 42nd St) (TPH Reduced)

Via Montague

Via Montague

Chambers-Jamaica (Northbound trains skip Canal St and Bowery)

Forest Hills-57th St, Metropolitan Ave-Delancey

Suspended

242nd-Chambers

Wakefield-14th St (Via 7th Ave Local)

148th St-Times Square

If the area directly south of Brooklyn Bridge station is usable:

Woodlawn-Brooklyn Bridge

Dyre-E180th

If the area directly south of Brooklyn Bridge station isn't usable:

Woodlawn-86th St

Dyre-E180th

Bronx-59th St, or GCT

Shuttle service operates Brooklyn Bridge and GCT, operating on the local track, and reversing via the express track. There is revenue service in both directions on the local and express tracks.

 

EDIT: Forgot to add Brooklyn IRT alternatives

 

Borough Hall-Flatbush Ave (9TPH)

Borough Hall-New Lots Ave (9TPH)

Makes all stops except Hoyt St

Edited December 1, 2012 by CDTA

[Wallyhorse]

A power outage cripples lower Manhattan. All trains south of Chambers Street must be rerouted. The only open line is the Montague Street tunnel. Reroute trains.

 

So, if I have this right, you can use the Montague tunnel and stops between there and Chambers, but no other subway tunnel into Brooklyn south of Chambers. If that is the case, then here's how I handle it:

 

runs local in Manhattan from 168th Street-West 4th and then via the to Jay Street (normal express in Brooklyn).

 

runs High Street-Brooklyn Bridge to Euclid Avenue ONLY.

 

runs normally as long as the platforms at Chambers Street (normal or the line) can be used to terminate. Otherwise, E runs normally from Jamaica Center to Penn Station (except using the express track at 34th and 42nd Street going downtown) and then going downtown after Penn Station goes to the uptown express track and is wrong-railed between Penn Station and Canal Street, where it terminates, skipping 23rd and Spring Street going downtown and terminating on the uptown tracks at Canal Street. Going uptown, the does make all stops on the local track after Canal Street per normal.

 

Spring Street only has uptown service at this time, 23rd Street has the stopping going downtown and the A and E stopping going uptown (if the can not use Chambers to terminate)..

 

runs 242nd Street, Bronx-Chambers Street

 

runs in two sections:

241st Street, Bronx-Chambers Street, Manhattan (local from 96th Street-Chambers Street)

Borough Hall platform-Flatbush Avenue, Brooklyn (skips Hoyt Street, which is closed)

 

runs in two sections:

148th Street-96th Street, Manhattan

Borough Hall platform-New Lots Avenue, Brooklyn (skips Hoyt Street, which is closed)

 

runs Woodlawn-Brooklyn Bridge ONLY

 

runs via the 149th Street, Bronx to 14th Street-7th Avenue, Manhattan, where it terminates.

 

is re-routed to the Nassau Street line.and along with the runs through the Montague Street tunnel to replace and service between Brooklyn Bridge and Atlantic Avenue.

 

in Brooklyn runs to Brighton Beach as an express, replacing the between DeKalb Avenue-Brighton Beach.

runs via 4th Avenue and terminates at the 9th Avenue station.

Edited December 1, 2012 by Wallyhorse

[Threxx]

is re-routed to the Nassau Street line.and along with the run through the Montague Street tunnel to replace and service between Brooklyn Bridge and Atlantic Avenue.

 

in Brooklyn runs to Brighton Beach as an express, replacing the between DeKalb Avenue-Brighton Beach.

 

 

Heh heh... you can't do that. Montague is accessible only from Broadway.