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Montauge Street (including the connection to the Nassau Street line) has reopened, but major problems around Myrtle Avenue in both directions have halted ALL service on The Manhattan Bridge.  Only the tunnel can be used to get to Manhattan.

 

In addition, the loop at South Ferry somehow got switched to where trains coming from the 7th Avenue line can ONLY go to the Lexington Avenue line going uptown and can not access 7th Avenue going back (the "new" SF station is still not available as it continues to be rebuilt from Sandy damage). 

 

Also at the same time, the Rutgers Street tunnel has broken rails that forces it to be shut down (though York Street and East Broadway on each end of the tunnel can be used).

Eh, I'll take a shot here

 

(1) - suspended between Chambers St and South Ferry

(B) - suspended

(C) - some southbound trains terminate at World Trade Ctr

(D) - split service; 1) 205 St to 2 Av, 2) Atlantic Av to Stillwell Av

(F) - via Cranberry in both directions

(N)(Q) - via Montague in both directions, some southbound (Q) trains terminate at 34 St, northbound at Prospect Park

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The MTA faces a HUGE budget gap. As a result, many workers are fired until the budget gap is closed, so that means less NTT's. Cut down service and choose a fleet for each line, and also change intervals to suit demand, while saving enough money to recover as quick as possible.

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The MTA faces a HUGE budget gap. As a result, many workers are fired until the budget gap is closed, so that means less NTT's. Cut down service and choose a fleet for each line, and also change intervals to suit demand, while saving enough money to recover as quick as possible.

So the way I saw this is:

-Less Service

-Everything else Unchanged

 

8th Avenue:

(A) Local from Hoyt Street to Euclid Avenue and above 145th Street.

(C) Suspended

(E) Local everywhere.

 

6th Avenue:

(B) Suspended

(D) Local above 59th Street.

(F) Unchanged

(M) Myrtle to Metropolitan, only.

 

Broadway:

(N) Local everywhere.

(Q) Local everywhere.

(R) Runs its Shuttle route at all times.

 

Crosstown:

(G) Cut back to Smith/9th Streets.

 

Nassau Street:

(J) Unchanged

(Z) Suspended

 

14th Street:

(L) Unchanged

 

Shuttles:

(S) Unchanged

 

7th Avenue:

(1) Unchanged

(2) Unchanged

(3) 148th St - 135th St

 

Lexington:

(4) Extended to NewLots, local east of Franklin Ave.

(5) Cut back to Bowling Green.

(6) Express suspended.

 

Other:

(7) Express Suspended

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So the way I saw this is:

-Less Service

-Everything else Unchanged

 

8th Avenue:

(A) Local from Hoyt Street to Euclid Avenue and above 145th Street.

(C) Suspended

(E) Local everywhere.

 

6th Avenue:

(B) Suspended

(D) Local above 59th Street.

(F) Unchanged

(M) Myrtle to Metropolitan, only.

 

Broadway:

(N) Local everywhere.

(Q) Local everywhere.

(R) Runs its Shuttle route at all times.

 

Crosstown:

(G) Cut back to Smith/9th Streets.

 

Nassau Street:

(J) Unchanged

(Z) Suspended

 

14th Street:

(L) Unchanged

 

Shuttles:

(S) Unchanged

 

7th Avenue:

(1) Unchanged

(2) Unchanged

(3) 148th St - 135th St

 

Lexington:

(4) Extended to NewLots, local east of Franklin Ave.

(5) Cut back to Bowling Green.

(6) Express suspended.

 

Other:

(7) Express Suspended

thats too much

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The MTA faces a HUGE budget gap. As a result, many workers are fired until the budget gap is closed, so that means less NTT's. Cut down service and choose a fleet for each line, and also change intervals to suit demand, while saving enough money to recover as quick as possible.

 

Based on how P3F sees it:

 

(A) All trains terminate at Ozone Park.

(C) Some trains go to Parsons/Archer via QBE. Increased Service.

(E) Suspended.

(S) - Rockaway shuttle extended to Euclid Avenue, shuttle service also serves Mott Avenue.

 

 

(B) Suspended

(D) via CPL.

(F) Some trains go via Crosstown and terminate at Court Sq, all other trains via QBL. Increased Service.

(M) Metro - Essex Shuttle.

 

(N) via 4th Avenue local.

(Q) terminates at 57th Street - 7th Avenue.

(R) Suspended.

(S) Shuttle between Bay Ridge and 36th Street.

 

(G) Limited service (3 tph during rush hour) all trains to 71st Street - Continental. No (G) Service during middays, late nights, and weekends.

 

(J) Makes all stops during rush hour.

(Z) Suspended.

 

(L) Unchanged.

 

(1) Suspended.

(2) Unchanged.

(3) via Seventh Avenue local. Select trains terminate at South Ferry.

 

(4) Select trains extended to New Lots Avenue because of decreased service to New Lots.

(5) All trains terminate at Bowling Green. Service decreased.

(6) Extended to Bklyn College.

 

(7) Unchanged.

<7> Suspended.

 

A bit overkill but whatever.

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(1) Suspended.

(2) Unchanged.

(3) via Seventh Avenue local. Select trains terminate at South Ferry.

 

 

A bit overkill but whatever.

 

No trains at all between 103rd St and 242 St - Van Cortlandt Park?

I don't think Suspending the (1) would be a good idea...

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(Note: The Montauge Tunnel has re-opened when this happens)

The track switches north of Jay Street-Metrotech (A)(C)(F) station are stuck as follows:

To Manhattan: (F) trains have to go to the Cranberry Street tracks/tunnel

From Manhattan: (A) and (C) trains are switched to the (F) track towards Jay Street.

At the same time, all trains using the Montauge Tunnel are switched to the Nassau/Centre Street Line coming from Brooklyn (trains coming from Manhattan are unaffected by this).

Also, the switches on the local tracks south of West 4th got stuck to where in both directions trains on the local are automatically switched from the 8th Avenue to the 6th Avenue line.

Chaos I'm sure!

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(R) Manhattan trains go via Manhattan Bridge.

Some trains originate at Whitehall (Man-bound), Shuttle bus between Court and Atlantic.

 

(Man) (F) via 8th Avenue local from Jay to W4.

Shuttle buses from York - Jay, E-Bway - Bway Laffayette.

 

(Bk) (A)(C) terminate at Church Avenue.

Lots of nonstop shuttle service from Jay to Hoyt - Schemerhorn.

 

(E) go via 63rd and 6th Avenue local from W4 to Jamaica Parsons/Archer

 

After 34th Street (A)(C) go via 6th Avenue express to Columbus, then their normal route.

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(Note: The Montauge Tunnel has re-opened when this happens)

 

The track switches north of Jay Street-Metrotech (A)(C)(F) station are stuck as follows:

 

To Manhattan: (F) trains have to go to the Cranberry Street tracks/tunnel

 

From Manhattan: (A) and (C) trains are switched to the (F) track towards Jay Street.

 

At the same time, all trains using the Montauge Tunnel are switched to the Nassau/Centre Street Line coming from Brooklyn (trains coming from Manhattan are unaffected by this).

 

Also, the switches on the local tracks south of West 4th got stuck to where in both directions trains on the local are automatically switched from the 8th Avenue to the 6th Avenue line.

 

Chaos I'm sure!

 

Whoo! What a doozy!

 

WTC bnd (E) trains terminate at Briarwood with service split between IND Archer Avenue and IND Hillside Avenue. Use Jamaica-Van Wyck to layup, however, will require a level junction.

(F) trains run express between Kew Gardens to Parsons Blvd.

Shuttle bus runs between Parsons Blvd and Kew Gardens making all local stops at 5 minute intervals.

(A) trains run via the (F) from Jay Street to Church Avenue, and between Utica Avenue/Broadway Junction and Ozone/Rockaways via local.

Shuttle bus runs between Jay Street to Utica Avenue making all local stops at 5 minute intervals.

(C) trains terminate at 2nd Avenue. 

Shuttle bus between W4th Street to WTC making all local stops at 5 minute intervals.

Half of Manhattan bnd (R) trains run via Manhattan Bridge. Other half terminates at Court Street and resumes service (as if it was like this) at Whitehall Street.

 

Wow. Took me 30 minutes just to do this.

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(Note: The Montauge Tunnel has re-opened when this happens)

 

The track switches north of Jay Street-Metrotech (A)(C)(F) station are stuck as follows:

 

To Manhattan: (F) trains have to go to the Cranberry Street tracks/tunnel

 

From Manhattan: (A) and (C) trains are switched to the (F) track towards Jay Street.

 

At the same time, all trains using the Montauge Tunnel are switched to the Nassau/Centre Street Line coming from Brooklyn (trains coming from Manhattan are unaffected by this).

 

Also, the switches on the local tracks south of West 4th got stuck to where in both directions trains on the local are automatically switched from the 8th Avenue to the 6th Avenue line.

 

Chaos I'm sure!

 

(A) trains run via the (F) in both directions from Jay St- Metrotech and Coney Island, and via 8th Ave Local from 59th to W4

(F) trains run via the (A) in both directions from the Rockaways to W4

(C) trains run in two sections 168 to WTC and Utica to Euclid, via 8th Ave Express from 59th St to Chambers, limited service

(E) trains run express from 50th St to Canal

Uptown (R) trains run via Bridge

(M) trains run via (E) from W4 to 53rd and 5th

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Switches on the IRT are stuck as follows:

 

At 96th Street, uptown express trains are routed to the local

Between 135th Street and 145th Street on the (2) and (3) uptown trains are routed to the 148th Street terminal

At 149th-GC all switches are stuck in the straight position

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(Note: The Montauge Tunnel has re-opened when this happens)

 

The track switches north of Jay Street-Metrotech (A)(C)(F) station are stuck as follows:

 

To Manhattan: (F) trains have to go to the Cranberry Street tracks/tunnel

 

From Manhattan: (A) and (C) trains are switched to the (F) track towards Jay Street.

 

At the same time, all trains using the Montauge Tunnel are switched to the Nassau/Centre Street Line coming from Brooklyn (trains coming from Manhattan are unaffected by this).

 

Also, the switches on the local tracks south of West 4th got stuck to where in both directions trains on the local are automatically switched from the 8th Avenue to the 6th Avenue line.

 

Chaos I'm sure!

 

(A)(C): Southbound trains via 8th Avenue Local - Rutgers Street. Northbound trains via 8th Avenue Express to 34th Street then regular route.

(E): Both directions via 8th Avenue Express.

(F): Northbound trains via Cranberry Street - 8th Avenue Local to West 4th Street.

(R): Northbound trains via Manhattan Bridge.

 

Very confusing.

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Switches on the IRT are stuck as follows:

 

At 96th Street, uptown express trains are routed to the local

Between 135th Street and 145th Street on the (2) and (3) uptown trains are routed to the 148th Street terminal

At 149th-GC all switches are stuck in the straight position

 

(2): Two sections-

Brooklyn to 148th Street, uptown trains via 7th Avenue Local.

149th Street-Grand Concourse to Wakefield-241st Street.

(3): Uptown trains run via 7th Avenue Local.

(5): Two sections-

Brooklyn to 149th Street-Grand Concourse (UL).

149th Street-Grand Concourse (LL) OR East 180th Street to Eastchester-Dyre Avenue.

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Switches on the IRT are stuck as follows:

 

At 96th Street, uptown express trains are routed to the local

Between 135th Street and 145th Street on the (2) and (3) uptown trains are routed to the 148th Street terminal

At 149th-GC all switches are stuck in the straight position

(2) trains run between 96th Street and Brooklyn, and E180th Street and Wakefield.

(3) trains run between 148th Street and 110th Street if those switches are real, if not, 135th Street.

(5) trains run between Bklyn and 149th Street-GC and 3rd Avenue and Northern Terminal (whatever not gonna spell it), with non-peak running express.

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Situation

Sonic, Mario, Mega Man, and their friends are battling Eggman, Wily, and Browser (they secretly became allies with each other). The three enemies dispatched a ton robots and soldiers into the city. The NYPD is also involved in this battle. This also includes the US Air Force, US Army, and the  National Guard. Bill de Blasio has declared a state of emergency in all of Manhattan, as well as governor Andrew Cuomo. The heat of the battle is in Midtown between 34th Street and Central Park South (which includes Times Square, Herald Square-Macy's-Empire State Building, Bryant Park, Grand Central, and Rockefeller Center). 

 

How would subway and bus service be affected between 34th Street and Central Park South?  

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WAY out there, but (doing subway only, this assumes the Montauge Street tunnel has re-opened.when this happens):

(A) runs in two sections:
Lefferts Boulevard OR Far Rockaway to Chambers Street with LIMTED service to West 4th Street (6th Avenue Level, such trains stop at Spring Street) AND between 125th-207th Streets (local).

B/D/F from Brooklyn all terminate at West 4th Street.

(B) also runs local in Brooklyn and replaces the (Q) between DeKalb Avenue and Coney Island at all times.

 

(C) is suspended.

(D) also runs 125th Street-205th Street (express in Manhattan)
 

(E) runs Jamaica Center to Lexington Avenue ONLY!!

 

Some (F) trains from Coney Island run as follows:
via the (G) between Bergen Street and Queens Plaza
OR running via the A to Chambers Street A platform.
OR terminating at Delancey Street or York Street.

Some (F) trains from 179th Street run with the (E) to Lexington Avenue and terminate there while others run to Coney Island as noted above.

(G) is extended to 71st-Continental to replace the (M) in Queens.

(M) is temporarily combined with the (R) and replaces the (R) in Brooklyn, running to 95th Street. 

(N) runs in two sections:
From Coney Island via the tunnel and terminating at Canal Street (tunnel level).
Lexington Avenue-60th Street to Astoria.

(Q) is suspended.

(R) runs Lexington Avenue-60th Street to 71st-Continental ONLY!!

(7) trains run to Hunters Point Avenue ONLY!!

Broadway-7th Avenue trains run as follows:
(1) South Ferry-18th OR 23rd Street (no new passengers at 23rd) AND 96th Street-242nd street
(2) Flatbush Avenue-14th Street AND 96th Street-White Plains Road
(3) New Lots Avenue-14th Street ONLY!!! Shuttle bus operates between 135th and 148th Street-Lenox Terminal

Lexington Avenue trains run as follows:
(4) Utica Avenue-Brooklyn Bridge AND 86th Street-Woodlawn (express in Manhattan)
(5) Shuttle between 125th Street and Dyre Avenue ONLY!!
(6) 59th Street-Pelham Bay Park ONLY!!
LIMITED single-track shuttle service operates between Brooklyn Bridge and 14th Street on BOTH local tracks in BOTH directions.

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A water main break on the west end of Central Park South between 7th and 8th Avenues has created a big problem for the Broadway, Broadway-7th Avenue and 8th Avenue lines in that area.  Service east of 7th Avenue at CPS is unaffected by this.

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A water main break on the west end of Central Park South between 7th and 8th Avenues has created a big problem for the Broadway, Broadway-7th Avenue and 8th Avenue lines in that area.  Service east of 7th Avenue at CPS is unaffected by this.

Okay...

(1)(2)(3)- Service in 2 sections: Between Flatbush, East New York, and South Ferry to Times Square. 96th Street to Bronx terminals. Shuttle bus service provided between Times Square and 96th Street via Broadway. All running with limited service.

(A)(D)-Service in two sections.  (A) between Columbus Circle and Queens terminals. 145th Street to 207th Street-Inwood. Northbound has limited service.  (D) between 145th Street to 205th Street-Norwood. 59th Street-Columbus Circle to Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue. Stops at DeKalb Avenue after crossing Manhattan Bridge. Selected number of trains run via the Brighton Line as an express with the  (Q) .

(B)(C) - Service is suspended until further notice. Therefore, as of result, the  (A) will run local in Brooklyn, and the  (D) will have selected service to run on the Brighton Line. In Manhattan, the (A) will also make local stops north of 145th Street.

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I have another scenario.

 

An assassination attempt has been made on Sonic and Mario at City Hall after their heroic actions of saving Obama days earlier at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel from a bomb attack by an ISIS. Right now, all of Lower Manhattan (generally the Financial District, Civic Center, and Chinatown) is under state of emergency, and the hunt is on for the assassin responsible.*

 

How would subway, bus, and ferry service be affected?

 

*This will be updated when the assassin has been found.

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