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What if...... There was a massive power outage at Grand Central 42nd street and the whole station was dark. What I would do.

  • (5) Trains would run on the (2) in Manhattan. 
  • (4) Trains would run from Woodlawn, and terminate at 59th street. They would also run local below 125th street to substitute the (6) 
  • (6) Trains would run in two sections, 
    • 1st section would be from City Hall to 14th street.
    • 2nd section would be from Pelham Bay to 125th street.
  • (7) Train would terminate at Queens Plaza,
    • Passengers could take the (N)(W) into Manhattan.
  • (S) Completely suspended.

            MJQ (bus depot) could also put 60ft Artics on the M42 to substitute for the lost of the (7)(S) in Manhattan, which would help riders communicate from East side to West side, and vice versa.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Dannny said:

What if...... There was a massive power outage at Grand Central 42nd street and the whole station was dark. What I would do.

  • (5) Trains would run on the (2) in Manhattan. 
  • (4) Trains would run from Woodlawn, and terminate at 59th street. They would also run local below 125th street to substitute the (6) 
  • (6) Trains would run in two sections, 
    • 1st section would be from City Hall to 14th street.
    • 2nd section would be from Pelham Bay to 125th street.
  • (7) Train would terminate at Queens Plaza,
    • Passengers could take the (N)(W) into Manhattan.
  • (S) Completely suspended.

            MJQ (bus depot) could also put 60ft Artics on the M42 to substitute for the lost of the (7)(S) in Manhattan, which would help riders communicate from East side to West side, and vice versa.

 

 

I would have the (6) run from Bowling Green to BBCT for the Manhattan section. I would also terminate the (7) at Hunters Point to allow for easier termination.

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New scenario 

Sick Passager at the Times Square  (N)(Q)(R)(W) platform 

Track fire at Grand Central  (4)(5) platform 

Someone struck by a train at Dekalb (B)(Q) platform.

Investigation because of a car accident on the Manhattan Bridge. (Could affect either side of the bridge)

(5) train breaks down at the 149 St Junction 

And Infrastructure begins falling apart in the Chambers (J) platform 

Reroute trains 

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1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said:

New scenario 

Sick Passager at the Times Square  (N)(Q)(R)(W) platform 

Track fire at Grand Central  (4)(5) platform 

Someone struck by a train at Dekalb (B)(Q) platform.

Investigation because of a car accident on the Manhattan Bridge. (Could affect either side of the bridge)

(5) train breaks down at the 149 St Junction 

And Infrastructure begins falling apart in the Chambers (J) platform 

Reroute trains 

Which platform was some struck by at DeKalb? Until I know that, here's what I have.

(2) 

All service at the 149 Street- Grand Concourse will arrive on the NB platform. 

 

(4) North

Woodlawn to 86 Street (via Lexington Avenue Express), SB service skips 138 Street

 

(4) South

14 Street to Utica Avenue. At 14 Street and Brooklyn Bridge, all service stops on the Northbound platform. NB service makes all local stops north of Brooklyn Bridge.

 

(5) North

Shuttle service from East 180 Street to Dyre Avenue

 

(5) South

14 Street to Flatbush Avenue.  At 14 Street and Brooklyn Bridge, all service stops on the Northbound platform. NB service makes all local stops north of Brooklyn Bridge. 

 

(6) 

Service south of 86 Street suspended. Express service is suspended (all trains run to Pelham Bay Park)

 

(B) 

Suspended

 

(D) North

Runs from 205 Street to 2 Avenue, via CPW local, 6 Avenue Local (SB), 6 Avenue Express (NB)

 

(D) South

Atlantic Avenue to Coney Island

 

(N) 

Trains will originate/terminate at Atlantic Avenue (via 4 Avenue Express)

 

(J) 

Some trains terminate at Hewes Street

Some trains terminate at Bowery

No service between Bowery and Broad Street

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4 hours ago, LGA Link N train said:

New scenario 

Sick Passager at the Times Square  (N)(Q)(R)(W) platform 

Track fire at Grand Central  (4)(5) platform 

Someone struck by a train at Dekalb (B)(Q) platform.

Investigation because of a car accident on the Manhattan Bridge. (Could affect either side of the bridge)

(5) train breaks down at the 149 St Junction 

And Infrastructure begins falling apart in the Chambers (J) platform 

Reroute trains 

 

1 hour ago, LGA Link N train said:

How about someone struck on the southbound Dekalb (B)(Q) platform

Get the sick passenger off the train at Times Square so service can resume.

Then:

(4) runs between the Bronx and 86th Street, and Wall Street (southbound platform) and New Lots Avenue

(5) runs between Dyre Avenue and East 180th Street ONLY

(6) runs between Pelham Bay Park and 86th Street ONLY

A single track shuttle (S) runs between 14th Street and Bowling Green, with northbound trains running local north of Brooklyn Bridge and southbound trains running express on the northbound express track.

(2) runs between 3rd Avenue - 149th Street and 241st Street, and between 148th Street and Flatbush Avenue

(B) is suspended

(D) runs between 205th Street and 2nd Avenue, with shuttle trains running from 36th Street (Express tracks) to Coney Island via West End

(N) runs local from Astoria to Whitehall Street, with shuttle trains running from Atlantic Avenue to Coney Island via Sea Beach Local

(Q) runs from 96th Street to Canal Street (express platform), with shuttle trains running from Prospect Park to Coney Island

(R) runs between Forest Hills and Canal Street (local platforms), with a shuttle train between 59th Street and Bay Ridge

(W) is suspended

(J) runs between Essex Street and Queens ONLY

 

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37 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

You can't run the (J) to Essex without affecting the (M).

How so? The (J) can terminate on the middle track while the (M) uses the outer tracks.

...Unless the switches leading to the Williamsburg Bridge haven't been put back in after all the work from this summer, then in that case terminate the (J) at Bowery.

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Ok, a new one:

A renovation of Broadway Junction station needs to be done as soon as possible. Above ground, the support columns for the (J) and (L) platforms need to be removed and replaced, as well as the structure above ground. Below ground, the support beams in the tunnel need to be replaced as well. This process will require full time access for 3 months, and affects the (A)(C)(J)(Z) and (L). Reroute away!

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16 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Ok, a new one:

A renovation of Broadway Junction station needs to be done as soon as possible. Above ground, the support columns for the (J) and (L) platforms need to be removed and replaced, as well as the structure above ground. Below ground, the support beams in the tunnel need to be replaced as well. This process will require full time access for 3 months, and affects the (A)(C)(J)(Z) and (L). Reroute away!

Will the (A)(C) platforms be closed with the tracks or just the tracks?

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I would...

:A: 207 Street To Utica Avenue

(C) Euclid Av To Lefferts Blvd 

(H) Far Rockaway To Euclid Av (Express Track)

(S) Rockaway Park To Broad Channel

(J) Broad Street To Myrtle Av

(L) 14 Street To where ever the (L) can turn back closest to Bway Junction

No (Z) Service

All Uncovered stations will be handled by Shuttle buses.

 

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I would do this:
(A)  207th-Utica (trains relay at Ralph Av express tracks). Local in Manhattan and Brooklyn. Service is increased to make up for (C) service.

(B) extra rush-hour and midday service to help the (A) .

(C) suspended.

(D) extra service during rush hours and middays.

(H) / (S)  Euclid- Far Rockaway via Rockaway Park branch and Hammels Wye. Operates 6-12 TPH. Lefferts service uses shuttle buses.

(L) operates in two sections: Canarsie-Atlantic and 8th-Wyckoff. Southern section at 6 TPH, Manhattan section operates normal TPH.

(J) Broad-Myrtle and Crescent-Parsons.

(M) service increased during rush hour, middays, and evenings.

(Z) suspended. 

 

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Picture this...

Lets say a terrorist attack has taken place at Jackson Heights Roosevelt Av at the Peak of AM Rush Hour. A Bomb has exploded and has taken out both (7) train portion and the (E)(F)(M)(R) section. The situation gets worse and the terrorist are lurking in between Queens Plaza and 71-Continental Av. The (7) train elevated structure has become weak from the blast leaving 69 Street and 82 Street in devastation.  So with most of Queens in Chaos. There is also (2)train stuck right smack dab in the middle of the Clark street tube going into Manhattan. Which prevents the (2) and (3) trains heading to Manhattan. And at the same time, a person was struck by a (5) train at Borough Hall heading towards manhattan. Stopping (4)and (5) trains from going into Manhattan. And for the finishing touch, A water main broke at the 149 street Grand Concourse Station. The break floods the Entire Station. (2) (4) and (5) trains cannot pass through the station safely in both directions. So how can you save Brooklyn, Queens, and The Bronx?

Lines affected (2)(3)(4)(5)(7)<7>(E)(F)(M)(R) 

* P.S. No Shuttle buses and no Bus service near the Queens Explosion (Q32,Q33,Q47,Q49,Q53,Q70,ect.)

Have fun:rolleyes:

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35 minutes ago, Q23 via 108 said:

Picture this...

Lets say a terrorist attack has taken place at Jackson Heights Roosevelt Av at the Peak of AM Rush Hour. A Bomb has exploded and has taken out both (7) train portion and the (E)(F)(M)(R) section. The situation gets worse and the terrorist are lurking in between Queens Plaza and 71-Continental Av. The (7) train elevated structure has become weak from the blast leaving 69 Street and 82 Street in devastation.  So with most of Queens in Chaos. There is also (2)train stuck right smack dab in the middle of the Clark street tube going into Manhattan. Which prevents the (2) and (3) trains heading to Manhattan. And at the same time, a person was struck by a (5) train at Borough Hall heading towards manhattan. Stopping (4)and (5) trains from going into Manhattan. And for the finishing touch, A water main broke at the 149 street Grand Concourse Station. The break floods the Entire Station. (2) (4) and (5) trains cannot pass through the station safely in both directions. So how can you save Brooklyn, Queens, and The Bronx?

Lines affected (2)(3)(4)(5)(7)<7>(E)(F)(M)(R) 

* P.S. No Shuttle buses and no Bus service near the Queens Explosion (Q32,Q33,Q47,Q49,Q53,Q70,ect.)

Have fun:rolleyes:

 you're crazy but here's how I'd do it

rebuild Roosevelt into THE MOST BEAUTIFUL TRANSIT HUB and build the (7) with 4 tracks at this part. Keeping it elevated

have the (2) terminate at south ferry from 96 ST and from 3 Av to wakefield

(3) terminates at 14 St or suspended

(4) from 161 St - Woodlawn with boosted (B)(D) service

(4) and (5) run from Nevis or Grand Central - Flatbush and New Lots

(5) becomes a shuttle (Dyre Avenue Shuttle)

pull that (2) out of the tunnel to livonia and the person can be taken out of the hospital

(E) terminates at Queens Plaza

(F) and (M) terminates at 21 St

(R) remains as 4 Av shuttle or replaced by the (W) with (N) rerouted to SAS

Boosted Broadway, 6 Av  and Nassau Service

(1) (6) runs with delays

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Ok, a new one:

A renovation of Broadway Junction station needs to be done as soon as possible. Above ground, the support columns for the (J) and (L) platforms need to be removed and replaced, as well as the structure above ground. Below ground, the support beams in the tunnel need to be replaced as well. This process will require full time access for 3 months, and affects the (A)(C)(J)(Z) and (L). Reroute away!

 

5 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

(A) And (C) platforms are closed during this time. 

I'm assuming for this purpose (A) and (C) trains are simply bypassing Broadway Junction during this time but otherwise are operating normally:

(A) and (C) as noted are skipping Broadway Junction but otherwise operate normally.  Shuttle buses operate between Utica Avenue and Euclid Avenue making all local stops at all times.

(J) operates from Broad Street to Myrtle Avenue (Late nights and weekends to/from Metropolitan Avenue, replacing the (M) shuttle) 
(Z) becomes full-time and operates from Alabama Avenue to Jamaica Center (using East New York Yard to turn trains)
Single-track shuttle train runs between Myrtle Avenue and Chauncey Street
Shuttle buses operate between Myrtle Avenue and Alabama Avenue

(L) operates in three sections:
14th Street to Myrtle Avenue
Myrtle Avenue to Bushwick Avenue (single-track shuttle)
Atlantic Avenue to Rockaway Parkway
Shuttle bus operates between Myrtle Avenue and Atlantic Avenue

MetroCards are honored on the LIRR between Atlantic Avenue and Flatbush Avenue/Atlantic-Barclays.

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A massive section of tunnel collapses between Bowery and Essex St, and the Essex st station itself loses power, so the platforms are closed. No trains can go through the Nassau line, but the Christie cut is still open. The issue will take months to fix and investigate, as there are also water leaks between Bowery and Broad St.

Has major impact on (J)(brownM)(Z) service.

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On 11/26/2017 at 11:51 AM, LGA Link N train said:

(2) 2 sections: 241 St and 3rd Av-149 St.

Flatbush Av and Atlantic Av.

(3)  2 Sections: 148 St and Chambers St.

New Lots Av and Atlantic Av.

(4)  2 Sections: Woodlawn and 161 St.

125 St and Bowling Green and relay at 138 St-GC.

(4) trains in Brooklyn Is put out of service.

(5) 2 Sections: Dyre Av and East 180th St.

(5) trains that are still in Manhattan 125 St and Bowling Green and relay at 138 St-GC.

(5) trains in Brooklyn is put out of service.

(7) 2 Sections: 34 St-Hudson Yard and Woodside-61 St.

Main St and Junction Blvd.

(E) 2 Sections: Jamaica Center and Continental-71 Av.

World Trade Center and Queens Plaza.

(F) 2 Sections: 179 St and Continental Av.

Coney Island and 21 St-Queensbridge.

(M) Broadway Junction and Chambers St.

(M) trains that still running via 6 Av would go to 2 Av and 21 St-Queensbridge.

(R) 95 St and 96 St-2 Av.

 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, BayParkwayW said:

A massive section of tunnel collapses between Bowery and Essex St, and the Essex st station itself loses power, so the platforms are closed. No trains can go through the Nassau line, but the Christie cut is still open. The issue will take months to fix and investigate, as there are also water leaks between Bowery and Broad St.

Has major impact on (J)(brownM)(Z) service.

(J) 2 Sections: Jamaica Center and Hewes St, then take Shuttle Buses between Hewes St and Essex St.

Broad St and Canal St.

(M) Continental Av and 2 Av.

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12 hours ago, BayParkwayW said:

A massive section of tunnel collapses between Bowery and Essex St, and the Essex st station itself loses power, so the platforms are closed. No trains can go through the Nassau line, but the Christie cut is still open. The issue will take months to fix and investigate, as there are also water leaks between Bowery and Broad St.

Has major impact on (J)(brownM)(Z) service.

(J)(M)(Z) Service suspended between Broad St and Marcy Ave 

(J) Service runs between Marcy and Jamaica

(M) Runs in two sections: Myrtle (with some trains extended to Marcy during peak) and Metropolitan, and 2nd Avenue and Forest Hills (wow, it's the (V))!

(Z) Suspended

For service in Queens use (G) and (L) trains

For service in Manhattan, use (6) and (F) trains

 

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