official Subway - What If?

[FamousNYLover]

What If:

Due to animal rights protest at 85th St area that expanded onto 2nd Av Subway line, suspended entire 2nd Av corridor.    can't access 2nd Av service but can access Lex Av-63rd St.

Affects (F)(M)(Q)

 

Edited December 27, 2019 by FamousNYLover

[Wallyhorse]

10 hours ago, FamousNYLover said:

What If:

Due to animal rights protest at 85th St area that expanded onto 2nd Av Subway line, suspended entire 2nd Av corridor.    can't access 2nd Av service but can access Lex Av-63rd St.

Affects (F)(M)(Q)

Assuming this is a weekend:

 is unaffected
runs via CPW to 145th Street after 47-50.
runs to 21st-Queensbridge on the , where it terminates.
 

[NBTA]

11 hours ago, FamousNYLover said:

What If:

Due to animal rights protest at 85th St area that expanded onto 2nd Av Subway line, suspended entire 2nd Av corridor.    can't access 2nd Av service but can access Lex Av-63rd St.

Affects (F)(M)(Q)

 

SInce its a weekend, 

-Via 53rd

-Via CPW to 145th or Bedford Park.

 to 21st Street-Queensbridge.

[I FORGOT]

On 12/26/2019 at 8:51 PM, FamousNYLover said:

What If:

Due to animal rights protest at 85th St area that expanded onto 2nd Av Subway line, suspended entire 2nd Av corridor.    can't access 2nd Av service but can access Lex Av-63rd St.

Affects (F)(M)(Q)

 

 unaffected, unless if planned work happens

 no service between Essex and 96 St. no, I'm not going to send up  to 145

 terminates at 57 St-7 Av or via  to Astoria-Ditmars

Next:

 decides to close Joralemon, Montague, Clark, Cranberry and Rutgers Tunnels for extensive restoration, reconstruction and maintenance for 12 weeks, all-day. Not just nights and weekends.

In Weeks 1-6, Joralemon, Montague and Cranberry Tunnels are closed.

In Weeks 7-12, Clark and Rutgers Tunnels are closed.

Your challenge is to figure out a plan and reroute the affected lines for Weeks 1-6 and 7-12.

[Jova42R]

Scenario:

• An LIRR train overshoots the bumper block at Atlantic Terminal and crashes in to the retaining wall. The  platform is affected.  trains can pass through, but not stop.  trains cannot enter the station
• A  runs past a mis-set switch at Queensboro Plaza, blocking the Flushing/Astoria-bound tracks.
  • IMPORTANT: the Manhattan-bound tracks are not affected.
• An  train derails at 59 St, closing the entire station except the  tracks

Reroute:

[Jova42R]

On 12/26/2019 at 8:51 PM, FamousNYLover said:

What If:

Due to animal rights protest at 85th St area that expanded onto 2nd Av Subway line, suspended entire 2nd Av corridor.    can't access 2nd Av service but can access Lex Av-63rd St.

Affects (F)(M)(Q)

 

: normal service

: Middle Village to 47-50, then over the  to 145

: runs via  to Forest Hills.

[Jova42R]

13 hours ago, I FORGOT said:

 

 decides to close Joralemon, Montague, Clark, Cranberry and Rutgers Tunnels for extensive restoration, reconstruction and maintenance for 12 weeks, all-day. Not just nights and weekends.

In Weeks 1-6, Joralemon, Montague and Cranberry Tunnels are closed.

In Weeks 7-12, Clark and Rutgers Tunnels are closed.

Your challenge is to figure out a plan and reroute the affected lines for Weeks 1-6 and 7-12.

WEEKS 1-6
: Wakefield to 180 St Shuttle

: terminates at Bowling Green, use the  at Wall St.

: runs via  from 149 to Franklin

: 2 sections: Forest Hills to Whitehall St, and 95 St to Court St

: runs via  from W4 to Jay St, local Jay to Euclid

: terminates at WTC.

WEEKS 7-12

: runs via  from 149 to Nevins

: runs via  to South Ferry, use  at Bowling Green

: runs Dyre to 149

: runs via  to Jay St

[Jova42R]

12 hours ago, Jova42R said:

Scenario:

• An LIRR train overshoots the bumper block at Atlantic Terminal and crashes in to the retaining wall. The  platform is affected.  trains can pass through, but not stop.  trains cannot enter the station
• A  runs past a mis-set switch at Queensboro Plaza, blocking the Flushing/Astoria-bound tracks.
  • IMPORTANT: the Manhattan-bound tracks are not affected.
• An  train derails at 59 St, closing the entire station except the  tracks

Reroute:

: runs express 42 to 72

: 241 to Nevins, shuttle bus Nevins to Flatbush

: 148 to Nevins, shuttle bus Nevins to New Lots

: Woodlawn to Nevins, use  shuttle bus

: Dyre to Bowling Green

: REDUCED SERVICE, and Flushing-bound trains run via Manhattan-bound track from Court Sq to 33 St

: suspended

: REDUCED SERVICE, and Astoria-bound trains runs via Manhattan-bound track from Queensboro Plaza to 39 Av

: Whitehall to 57-7, then over the  to 96.

: Far Rock/Lefferts to Euclid, then local to 42.

: 72 St to 168, then over the  to 207.

: Bedford Park to 72

: Coney Island to 47-50, then over the  to 179 St

[Lawrence St]

NEXT:

A midtown power outage during rush hour causes the following line segments to lose power:

72nd St to 34th St-Penn Station

72nd St to 34th St-Penn Station

7th Av-53rd St/57th St to 34th St

57th St-7th Av to 34th St-Heard Square

86th St to 33rd St

 

Reroute away!

[Jova42R]

 

27 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

NEXT:

A midtown power outage during rush hour causes the following line segments to lose power:

72nd St to 34th St-Penn Station

72nd St to 34th St-Penn Station

7th Av-53rd St/57th St to 34th St

57th St-7th Av to 34th St-Heard Square

86th St to 33rd St

 

Reroute away!

: 242 to 72

: 241 to 72

: New Lots to 34

: 34 to Far Rock, local

: 72 to 168, over  to 207

: terminates at 7 Av

: 72 to BPB, over the  to 205

: 34 to Coney Island

: runs via  from Queens Plaza to Bergen

: Forest Hills to 36, then over  to Lex-63

: 2 sections, 34 to Coney Island and 57-7 to Astoria

: 34 to Coney Island

: Forest Hills to 57-7

: 34 to Whitehall, extended to 95-Bay Ridge

: Woodlawn to 86

: Flatbush to 14, local

: Pelham Bay to 86

SHUTTLE BUSES

 - 72 to 34, local

 - 135 to 148

 - 72 to 34, local

 - 72 to 34, local

 - Myrtle to Middle Village

 - 57 to 34, local

 - 86 to 14, local

NEXT:

• The Manhattan Bridge has to be closed for signal repairs, affecting all trains on the bridge
• A rockslide occurs at Dyckman St and Broadway, destroying Dyckman St  and the connections to 207 St Yard
• The 63 St Tunnel collapses, closing the
• A  train derails and crashes into the  platform at Broadway Jct. The  are not affected

Reroute:

 

 

Edited December 29, 2019 by Jova42R

[Jova42R]

14 hours ago, Jova42R said:

NEXT:

• The Manhattan Bridge has to be closed for signal repairs, affecting all trains on the bridge
• A rockslide occurs at Dyckman St and Broadway, destroying Dyckman St  and the connections to 207 St Yard
• The 63 St Tunnel collapses, closing the
• A  train derails and crashes into the  platform at Broadway Jct. The  are not affected

Reroute:

: suspended

: 2 sections, 205 St to 2 Av , and Atlantic Av to Coney Island

: runs via  from 36 St to 47-50 Sts

: runs via  Canal to Atlantic

: Coney Island to Atlantic Av, use  and free shuttle buses

: terminates at 190 St.

: Chauncey St to Broad St

: runs all times, Alabama Av to Jamaica Center, local

: Bushwick-Aberdeen to 8 Av

: runs express 86 to 59

SHUTTLE BUSES

 - Bway-Laffayette to Atlantic Av

 - 96 St to 57-7 for

 - Chauncey to Alabama

 - Bushwick-Aberdeen to Canarsie

[Jova42R]

Scenario:

• An Amtrak train derails under Penn Station causing  the structure to become unstable, and all  trains are closed.
• Midtown East has a power outage from 60 St to 42 St, 5 Av to the East River, affecting the .
• The 63 St Tunnels have to close for East Side Access work. The  is affected by this, but the  is not.

Reroute:

 

Reroute away!

BONUS: reroute LIRR/Amtrak

[I FORGOT]

21 hours ago, Jova42R said:

NEXT:

• The Manhattan Bridge has to be closed for signal repairs, affecting all trains on the bridge
• A rockslide occurs at Dyckman St and Broadway, destroying Dyckman St  and the connections to 207 St Yard
• The 63 St Tunnel collapses, closing the
• A  train derails and crashes into the  platform at Broadway Jct. The  are not affected

Reroute:

 181 St / 168 St - Lefferts Blvd / Far Rockaway / Rockaway Park

 Bedford Park Blvd (rush hours) / 145 St (other times) - 34 St. No service during weekends or late nights. For service to Brooklyn, take  at 34 St.

 Norwood-205 St - 34 St and Atlantic-Barclays - Coney Island, running express between 36 St and Atlantic-Barclays at all times.

 Runs via 53rd

 no service between Myrtle Ave and Crescent St

 no service between Halsey St and Atlantic Ave / Livonia Ave

 Reduced service between Essex St and Forest Hills. Some trains go to Chambers, where they end.

 Astoria-Ditmars - 86 St via Montague and Sea Beach

 Astoria-Ditmars - Coney Island via Montague and Brighton

 No service. Use  instead

 see

 express between 125 St and 42 St in both directions. Some trains go local between 125 St and 86 St, where they end.

[Jova42R]

Scenario:

A  train runs past a mis-set switch at Queensboro Plaza, closing the Queens-Bound Tracks of the . The Manhattan-bound tracks are not affected.

There is a partial collapse of the station at 4 Av-9 St, closing the . The  is not affected.

A  train derails in the Clark St tubes, closing the  line from Wall St to Borough Hall

An  train derails at Hoyt-Schemerhorn, causing the closure of Hoyt-Schemerhorn and the  line from Hoyt to Jay

Reroute:

[Jova42R]

Just now, Jova42R said:

Scenario:

A  train runs past a mis-set switch at Queensboro Plaza, closing the Queens-Bound Tracks of the . The Manhattan-bound tracks are not affected.

There is a partial collapse of the station at 4 Av-9 St, closing the . The  is not affected.

A  train derails in the Clark St tubes, closing the  line from Wall St to Borough Hall

An  train derails at Hoyt-Schemerhorn, causing the closure of Hoyt-Schemerhorn and the  line from Hoyt to Jay

Reroute:

: Queens-Bound Trains run from 33 St to Flushing, with some trains running via the Manhattan-bound track to Court Sq

: suspended

: Reduced service, some Queens-Bound trains run via the Manhattan Bound track from 11 St Cut to 39 Av

: Whitehall to 57, then over the  to 96.

: runs via  from Jay St to 7 Av.

: Court Sq to Fulton St

: Some trains run via the  from 149 to Nevins, some terminate at Wall St

: runs via the  to South Ferry, change for the  at Bowling Green.

 : extended to New Lots, local

: Far Rock to Laffayette, local

: Jay to 168, then over the  to 207.

SHUTTLE BUSES

 - Jay to 7 Av, local

 - Laffayette to Jay via Fulton

 - Chambers to Boro Hall via Brooklyn Bridge and Clark St

 

[Maxwell179]

2 hours ago, Jova42R said:

: Queens-Bound Trains run from 33 St to Flushing, with some trains running via the Manhattan-bound track to Court Sq

: suspended

: Reduced service, some Queens-Bound trains run via the Manhattan Bound track from 11 St Cut to 39 Av

: Whitehall to 57, then over the  to 96.

: runs via  from Jay St to 7 Av.

: Court Sq to Fulton St

: Some trains run via the  from 149 to Nevins, some terminate at Wall St

: runs via the  to South Ferry, change for the  at Bowling Green.

 : extended to New Lots, local

: Far Rock to Laffayette, local

: Jay to 168, then over the  to 207.

SHUTTLE BUSES

 - Jay to 7 Av, local

 - Laffayette to Jay via Fulton

 - Chambers to Boro Hall via Brooklyn Bridge and Clark St

 

I don’t think there’s any switches between Bergen St & Bedford-Nostrand

[Jemorie]

2 hours ago, Maxwell179 said:

I don’t think there’s any switches between Bergen St & Bedford-Nostrand

You're correct. There isn't.

[I FORGOT]

4 hours ago, Jova42R said:

Scenario:

A  train runs past a mis-set switch at Queensboro Plaza, closing the Queens-Bound Tracks of the . The Manhattan-bound tracks are not affected.

There is a partial collapse of the station at 4 Av-9 St, closing the . The  is not affected.

A  train derails in the Clark St tubes, closing the  line from Wall St to Borough Hall

An  train derails at Hoyt-Schemerhorn, causing the closure of Hoyt-Schemerhorn and the  line from Hoyt to Jay

Reroute:

 No service between Jay Street / Chambers Street and Utica Avenue.  trains are running in 2 sections: 207 St - Chambers Street / Jay Street, express and Utica Avenue - Lefferts Blvd / Far Rockaway / Rockaway Park

 No service between Canal Street and Euclid Avenue. Trains run between 168 St and World Trade Center only.

 runs express between Jay Street and Church Avenue in both directions

 no service between Bedford-Nostrand Avenues and Church Avenue.

 Stops on the Manhattan-bound platform at Queensboro Plaza. In case of delays, some trains run via  from 34 St to 96 St, skipping 49 St.

 suspended

 No service between Chambers Street or Wall Street and Flatbush Avenue. Some trains run via  between 149 St and Nevins Street. 

 via  from Chambers Street to South Ferry, where they end. No service between Chambers Street and New Lots Avenue.

 Local between Nevins Street and Utica Avenue, then via  to New Lots Avenue.

 Local between Nevins Street and Franklin Avenue

 Stops on Manhattan-bound platform at Court Square and Queensboro Plaza. Some trains turn around at 74 St.

 suspended

[Jova42R]

Scenario:

There is a power outage in the East Village, from 14th to Grand and Centre/Laffayette/4th to the River. This affects the

Canal St on the  has a switch malfunction, where all local trains must go to/from the  track. The  is not affected.

Reroute: 

Edited December 31, 2019 by Jova42R

[I FORGOT]

7 hours ago, Jova42R said:

Scenario:

There is a power outage in the East Village, from 14th to Grand and Centre/Laffayette/4th to the River. This affects the

Canal St on the  has a switch malfunction, where all local trains must go to/from the  track. The  is not affected.

Reroute: 

 runs local between Hoyt-Schermerhorn and Euclid Avenue in both directions

 suspended

 no service between Canal Street and Euclid Avenue. Trains run between 168th St and World Trade Center only

 Norwood-205 St - 34 St

 Atlantic-Barclays - Coney Island, running express at all times

 runs via  between Jay Street and West 4 Street in both directions

 no service between Marcy Avenue and Broad Street.

 no service between Bedford Avenue and 8 Avenue

 shuttle between Metropolitan Avenue and Myrtle Avenue at all times

 West 4 Street to 71 Avenue

 no service between 42 St and Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall / Wall St

 no service between E 180 St and Flatbush Ave

 no service between 42 St and Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall

[Jova42R]

9 hours ago, Jova42R said:

Scenario:

There is a power outage in the East Village, from 14th to Grand and Centre/Laffayette/4th to the River. This affects the

Canal St on the  has a switch malfunction, where all local trains must go to/from the  track. The  is not affected.

Reroute: 

: Woodlawn to 14

: some trains run via the  from 149 to Nevins, some trains run from Flatbush to Brooklyn Brg

: Pelham Bay to 14

: suspended

: 2 sections: 205 to W4 and Atlantic to Coney Island

: runs via  from Roosevelt to Bergen

: 2 sections: Forest Hills to 36, then via the  to W4, and Marcy Av to Middle Village

: Marcy Av to Jamaica Center

: suspended

: Union Sq to Canaraie

: 168 to WTC

: Local in Brooklyn

[Wallyhorse]

20 hours ago, Jova42R said:

Scenario:

There is a power outage in the East Village, from 14th to Grand and Centre/Laffayette/4th to the River. This affects the

Canal St on the  has a switch malfunction, where all local trains must go to/from the  track. The  is not affected.

Reroute: 

 and  run from their respective terminals to Grand Central (some service ends at 59th Street)

also runs Brooklyn Bridge-Utica Avenue

Some trains runs via 7th Avenue from 149th-Nevins Street

Other  service is run in two sections:
Dyre Avenue-Grand Central
Brooklyn Bridge-Flatbush Avenue.

 and  are suspended

Southbound  runs via the  34th Street-Canal Street, then regular route (regular service northbound as only the southbound side would be affected by this).

 runs in two sections:
205th-34th Street with some service via 8th Avenue local to Chambers St.
Shuttle between Atlantic-Barclays and Coney Island

 is unaffected

Some  runs via the from Roosevelt Avenue to 50th Street 8th Avenue, then southbound via the to Jay Street and from Jay Street northbound via the  and then  to Roosevelt Avenue.

Some trains run via the and then from Roosevelt Avenue-Bergen Street.

 runs in two sections ( is suspended):
Jamaica Center-Marcy Avenue
Chambers Street-95th Street replacing the suspended  in South Brooklyn (see below)

 runs in Brooklyn ONLY (normal route in Brooklyn)

Broadway would also be affected by this:
From Coney Island, and run via the tunnel to Manhattan and terminate at Canal Street (Tunnel Level)

also operates from Times Square or 57th Street-7th Avenue to Ditmars Boulevard
 also operates from Times Square to 96th Street-2nd Avenue
 operates from Times Square or 57th Street-7th Avenue to 71st-Continental ONLY!

[Jova42R]

Scenario:

There is an NYPD investigation at 4 Av-9 St. The  cannot pass through. The  can pass through, however

A train on the Bay Ridge Branch derails at E 16 St, crashing into the  structure and closing Avenue H station.

A  train derails at Broadway Junction, then falls off the tracks, closing the .

A  train runs past a mis-set switch at Wall St, then stalls, blocking all  service in the Clark St Tunnel, and closing Wall St station.

Reroute:

Edited January 1, 2020 by Jova42R
Forgot to put trains to reroute

[NBTA]

On 12/28/2019 at 7:08 PM, Lawrence St said:

NEXT:

A midtown power outage during rush hour causes the following line segments to lose power:

72nd St to 34th St-Penn Station

72nd St to 34th St-Penn Station

7th Av-53rd St/57th St to 34th St

57th St-7th Av to 34th St-Heard Square

86th St to 33rd St

 

Reroute away!

Assuming it doesn't effect the actual stations listed..
: 242-96, 34th-New Lots, s turn into s.

: 241-96, 34th-Utica.

: 148th or Dyre Avenue-96th.

: Woodlawn-86th via local. BBCH-Flatbush.

: Dyre-86th, 34th-Flatbush via Wall Street.

: Pelham Bay Park-125th.

You missed one...

: Hunters Point-Flushing.

: 125th-207th, 34th-Far Rock.

: 34th-Lefferts.

: Court Square-JC via local.

: Sussssssssspended.

: 205th-125th, Herald-Coney Island via local

: 57th-179th via local, 34th-Coney.

: Metropolitan-86 via Sea Beach.

: 57th-Ditmars.

: 34th-Coney.

: Susp.....34th-95th.

: Suspended.....

/: Extended into Brooklyn for extra service (Via Brighton to CI, via West End to CI, via Sea Beach to 86).

[R68OnBroadway]

19 minutes ago, Jova42R said:

Scenario:

There is an NYPD investigation at 4 Av-9 St. The  cannot pass through. The  can pass through, however

A train on the Bay Ridge Branch derails at E 16 St, crashing into the  structure and closing Avenue H station.

A  train derails at Broadway Junction, then falls off the tracks, closing the .

A  train runs past a mis-set switch at Wall St, then stalls, blocking all  service in the Clark St Tunnel, and closing Wall St station.

Reroute:

Can we please have realistic scenarios that do not involve freak derailments?

Anyways, moving on, I'll present a new kind of scenario:

Budget cuts force the MTA to cut down on station maintenance and as a result 8 stations will need to be closed. Keep in mind that you cannot simply close a station just on the basis of low ridership and you must also take into account proximity to other stations. Here are my 8:

Hewes St  

Van Siclen  

Beverley

Neptune  

Classon  

Aqueduct Racetrack  

104th  

Van Siclen