ErikNYC Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5926 Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Question for anyone who might have knowledge, I failed my final yard practical and the retest with a superintendent. Now I have to hand in all of my uniforms and tools. I am beyond crushed, is there any chance that I could be put back on the list for t/o 8098 or do basically have to take the next t/o exam in june. I can't believe I screwed this up after waiting for so long. Any help would be appreciated. You can get put back on the list. My fellow class mate did it, and is now in YX, as well as another person in my induction class. Hurry up and get the ball rolling. This is why I didn't leave my old job,the way they do things there is so wrong. .the superintendants are a**holes as well..you will now have to wait for the next exam ..Gluck man it sucks ..especially when they give you the dam uniform and all your family are proud of you now to take back everything to downtown Brooklyn back and having all your family and friends asking all sort of questions smh Honestly the Superintendants aren't a**holes, they are your boss like any other company. However, my encounters with them has been positive. Like any boss you know not to cross certain lines. There's always a few bad apples in every bunch. When your in schoolcar it's a whole different ball game/attitude... Edited April 15, 2016 by ErikNYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Train Op 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5927 Posted April 15, 2016 That's exactly it,my family and friends were all patting me in the back congratulating me and people have seen me proudly walking in my uniform and now my career is in a big bag ready to be recycled. I def appreciate the words of encouragement, honestly the superintendent wasn't an a*****e, I just let my nerves get the best of me. I rather not say what class I was in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Train Op 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5928 Posted April 15, 2016 @eriknyc, did your classmate fail the practical and then got put back on the list? Was it the same list he/she originally came from? I'm hoping the rumors that list 8098 is being extended and I can get back on board quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tprashad0719 Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5929 Posted April 15, 2016 i passed both of my practicals and my first signal exam,i resigned due to family issues and honestly i was not spending time with my daughter, this training would be easier if you have no small children and single or married without kids..but the reason i mention the situation regarding the superintendent was not due to a personal problem it was regarding my classmates..i wont mention the the superintendent but he failed 6 of my classmates one shot during the signal exam..we knew he had a personal problem with our TSS and he took it out on the class..he is known to give 2nd chances but that day he didnt give 6 of my classmates a chance to redeem there selves (after him and our TSS had it out before the exam even began) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Train Op 2016 Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5930 Posted April 15, 2016 I here you, that Def ain't cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tprashad0719 Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5931 Posted April 15, 2016 my advise, is to start out as a conductor and then go into T/O,hell you might like conductor and remain as one..while training i spoke to numerous T/O's and conductors asking questions..seems like the conductors loved there job and the T.O's always mentioning to me they should of just stayed as a conductor..yea you get start off with a low pay but with a few hours O/T here and there and 6 years vested you will be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flystunna Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5932 Posted April 15, 2016 Can someone briefly explain what "you are not on a outstanding certification " means , or direct me to the page in this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOQV Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5933 Posted April 15, 2016 Keep your head up TrainOp2016. In going through schoolcar right now and it's as tough as it gets. If you really want to be a train operator than file for the next exam in June. The first time I went through the 10 day training for bus operator I failed the 10 day training. 7 years later I tried again and passed the 10 day training. Never give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5934 Posted April 15, 2016 Okay so...when you mean train operators are on like a probationary period until they retire you mean like the job is that hard? I've worked long hours. I used to drive limo for 10 to 12 hrs a day. Or perhaps there's so many things that can get you terminated? I understand all that. Safety is the only option. Is there alot of train operators leaving because the job is so unstable? Missing stops maybe or an over run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5935 Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) Question for anyone who might have knowledge, I failed my final yard practical and the retest with a superintendent. Now I have to hand in all of my uniforms and tools. I am beyond crushed, is there any chance that I could be put back on the list for t/o 8098 or do basically have to take the next t/o exam in june. I can't believe I screwed this up after waiting for so long. Any help would be appreciated. You didn't fail nothing brother. You took a break. And you're going back. I didn't even apply yet and I know I can do it. Nobody has failed as much as me. So trust me you didn't fail man. You will take the test again and beat it like a red headed step sister. Not everyone body has the same anatomy especially the mind. Edited April 15, 2016 by Moody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5936 Posted April 15, 2016 well I hope I don't sound like a loser but after hearing all these honor stories , I feel bad for the guys that have take the test again or go back to your old jobs if you can , I was to report Friday 4/8 to start training 4/11 for list 8098 but since I took test in 09 I have moved 45 min. north of the city , started driving a school bus got into NYS tier 4 , Yes the money is the at the MTA but I have a job again with befits again and all the perks, I took this exam when I was laid off from a Chrysler dealership service department after 22 years , I have a good idea how this works since I was ready to be sworn in on list 5025 Bus operator but turned it down to drive school bus in the nysut union , I was able to get back on that list and ride it out ,I am hoping I can do the same with this list its good to 9/16 which is not far away but you never know what can happen nys schools its all about the budget, bob the bus driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted April 15, 2016 Share #5937 Posted April 15, 2016 (edited) So exam 8098 was conducted what year? Omg 2011 the test was given out ? Dayum. Thats along time to wait for 30 bucks an hour. It's still good BUT I'm not keeping my hopes up. That's a long time. Edited April 16, 2016 by Moody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOQV Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5938 Posted April 16, 2016 This test was given in 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5939 Posted April 16, 2016 This test was given in 2009 Soo some people in the school car thread posted they took a train operator test in 2009. Eventually they get called in late 2012.... So this 2009 test is definitely burning anyone elses chance if they're still calling people from 2009 to now. Now its not their fault. But my god. That's definitely patience needed to get in. That's insane 2009 and still calling from that list. So if I can apply and take the test this year im looking at 7 years to get called lol...okayyyy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5940 Posted April 16, 2016 Yes sir... MTA has to go through the whole promotional list "in house" first before they even reach you open-competitive "off the street" guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5941 Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) I received the notice as well. I scored a 90 and my list number is 3k and change. Just to fill you all in. Sorry Dude but you are toast . Your number is too high to receive a call up . I suggest taking other exams . Yup it's still active. On a side note; I'm finally finished with school car, as of today. I start pounding the road next week. It feels great. Hang in there and don't give up!!! That's amazing lol. Look at the dates. Amazing patience. Btw is it possible that they can call you from a newer list? Or extend one list from 2009 and have another later list and someone from the later list get called? Edited April 16, 2016 by Moody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5942 Posted April 16, 2016 The higher you score the lower your list # will be & the faster you will get called. If you were in the military 2 yrs or longer with a honorable discharge. You will get vets credit 5% extra added on your score. Make sure you have your military papers & let them when you apply. Good luck!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dainty2200 Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5943 Posted April 16, 2016 They started calling people early 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5944 Posted April 16, 2016 11,059 people are on the 8098 list. I don't know how many people were called. But I highly doubt many people would follow through with the next phase of employment for a few reasons. The number one reason was because many people signed up due to the 2008 crash and needed work. Alot of people moved out of new york. Alot of people already have jobs now. There must be only a couple hundred people left who would actually sign up. No more than 500. I'll be ready for the next one. I think the mta and the second ave tunnel will bring in opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dainty2200 Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5945 Posted April 16, 2016 They called up to list #7200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5946 Posted April 16, 2016 Last certified #7207... ("Last appointed #5399"). List opened Sept. 19, 2012. ("List expires/closes Sept. 19, 2016"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moody Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5947 Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) They called up to list #7200Which gives us some 3,859 people. But those are low scoring people. Most of those people in civil service exams give up. Or changed address or moved. Or committ crimes. That gives us 1,500 people that actually might answer. And with low scorers you will get alot of drops. I'm staying in the game. Plus you say it expires 2016 in sept? That's a factor. I gotta shot then. But not 7 years. Im thinking less than 2. Edited April 16, 2016 by Moody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dainty2200 Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5948 Posted April 16, 2016 Honestly dont think its expiring september 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flystunna Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5949 Posted April 16, 2016 Which gives us some 3,859 people. But those are low scoring people. Most of those people in civil service exams give up. Or changed address or moved. Or committ crimes. That gives us 1,500 people that actually might answer. And with low scorers you will get alot of drops. I'm staying in the game. Plus you say it expires 2016 in sept? That's a factor. I gotta shot then. But not 7 years. Im thinking less than 2. I didnt have hope after i got my scores years ago and realized they would never get to my list number but after hearing last called was 7207 thats really close to my number and after patiently waiting for a new exam to do better on maybe i can dig up my hopes i buried on making this exam lol figures crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted April 16, 2016 Share #5950 Posted April 16, 2016 The higher you score the lower your list # will be & the faster you will get called. If you were in the military 2 yrs or longer with a honorable discharge. You will get vets credit 5% extra added on your score. Make sure you have your military papers & let them when you apply. Good luck!!! Just be careful. You can only use vets credit once. So if you apply for multiple exams, when you are hired, you will use your vets credit, and it will be removed from any other exams you took. So if you take the C/R exam, then the T/O exam, and are a vet, you can only get the 5 points once. If you apply it to C/R, and are hired as a C/R, you will have to "give up" 5 points off your T/O score when that comes out and your list number will be adjusted higher accordingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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