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R196 (Will replace the R68 and R68A cars)

 

Built by: Alstom

In service: 2020-present

Propulsion: Like 1996TS

Sets: 7-car sets

Doors: 4 per car (double-leaf center doors, single-leaf end doors)

Seats: Purple moquette

Max speed: 85 mph (capped to 65 mph).

 

Other info:

Articulated.

Based on Jubilee Line 1996 stock with same sound of deceleration and acceleration.

Announcements what doors are opening (left-hand side or right hand side).

Rollsigns are below windows (except door windows).

Computer maps.

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Assuming I can foam:

R38 Slants, with R110B interiors.

Has rollsigns, and luminators. Has the same RFW from the R40 Slants. It has the Bombardier propulsion from the BART cars.

Inside technology: An LCD Strip Map. What that is, is a strip map, but the route, stops, and transfers are all on an LCD screen, to allow it to use multiple routes. Another advantage of an LCD strip map, is that it would double as an information-thingy.

Hand-programming. Let's say there's a G.O. that causes the (D) to go to Canarsie, but that program doesn't exist. The C/R. (or T/O) would go in to each station on the strip map one by one, and select the stop they need. This is also useful for unplanned G.O.'s that need the strip map updated on the fly, or even if your'e just bypassing a station. The same also applies for route-name. Take a look at this photo: (Courtesy of GojiMet86)

http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/GojiMet86/The%252520IRT%252520Shuffle%25252010-22-11/DSC01191.jpg

Notice how it says (5) Lexington Ave Express? Well not only can you select from bullets that are already routes, you can also add any letter, and add any color. The same goes with the route name. You can choose from pre-determined sets, or type in by hand what you want it to say.

Constantly updated maps. Whenever an unplanned G.O., or planned G.O. occurs, the map would be updated to show that change. i.e. if the (7) wasn't running between GCT and TS, then the map would have the (7)'s last stop as GCT. This would also effect the transfers listed on the strip map.

Announcements would be automated. There would also be arrows that indicate which door will be opening at the next stop.

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Well mine is pretty simple. I want B-Division. I want R46s. We will christen her the R237. The R237 mainly comes in 5 car sets, but 4 car sets are available for use. We look to get rid of R68s and R143s.

 

These R237s have to have NTT interiors. The white paint for me is the biggest thing, because it gives off the NTT feel. They have to have FINDs, white LED lights, subway maps, the deal. Also, the NTT signs, interior and exterior.

 

The cab would be pretty much your average R46 cab, with the R46 handle, but it would be white inside, and have the same computers like the R160. The one on the right would be where you do your route selection, but there would also be an option for a custom route. It has gotta have a computerized rollsign, that can display any bullet you want. First you would select circle or diamond, second you would select the color, and third you would select the letter and letter color.

 

As far as exterior goes, the lights are going to be the same LED lights that the R160s have. The doors would also be changed to R160 doors, with the yellow indicator on the top of them. There are a total of 8 doors per car, 4 on each side. The entire train would have a nice chrome shine to it as well.

 

The propullsion, well the propullsion would have to be something nasty. It is featured in this video of the R205: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9oTTHNO2R8.

 

This train was made for lines that run Express. So we will assign it to these lines:

(A) 8 Av Express

(D) 6 Av Express

(F) 6 Av Local

(J) Nassau St Express

(Q) Broadway/2 Av Express

(Z) Nassau St Express

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R211 (since the contract hasn't been put out to bid yet):

 

Length: 75 ft

Width: 10 ft

Configured in pairs that operate in 4-car sets. In other words, a 4-car set that can be uncoupled easily and quickly. This way, if one car within the set has mechanical or structual damage, only two cars have go out of service instead of four and the other two cars can be coupled to another pair and continue in service. This also makes it possible to operate 6-car trains if ridership warrants it via an A-B-B-A-B-A configuration.

 

Car bodies will be stainless steel. They will have on both sides four pairs of double doors plus one single door near the No. 2 (rear) end of each car. A-cars (cab cars) will have blue fronts that will look like the ones on the M7A cars on Metro-North. A and B (non-cab cars) will have a blue beltline strip along the sides and ends (like the R44s and R46s used to have).

 

Interiors will have speckled light gray walls except for the wall separating the cab which will be red. Seating will be mostly tranverse with aisle-facing seats limited to right by the doors. Seats will be painted in red and have taller seatbacks to better support the backs and necks of taller people. Floors will be tiled dark gray with two lengthwise rows of red tiles near the seats. There will also be red tiles at each doorway that connect to the rows of red tiles. This will facilitate being able to locate where the exit doors are.

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R211 (since the contract hasn't been put out to bid yet):

 

Length: 75 ft

Width: 10 ft

Configured in pairs that operate in 4-car sets. In other words, a 4-car set that can be uncoupled easily and quickly. This way, if one car within the set has mechanical or structual damage, only two cars have go out of service instead of four and the other two cars can be coupled to another pair and continue in service. This also makes it possible to operate 6-car trains if ridership warrants it via an A-B-B-A-B-A configuration.

 

Car bodies will be stainless steel. They will have on both sides four pairs of double doors plus one single door near the No. 2 (rear) end of each car. A-cars (cab cars) will have blue fronts that will look like the ones on the M7A cars on Metro-North. A and B (non-cab cars) will have a blue beltline strip along the sides and ends (like the R44s and R46s used to have).

 

Interiors will have speckled light gray walls except for the wall separating the cab which will be red. Seating will be mostly tranverse with aisle-facing seats limited to right by the doors. Seats will be painted in red and have taller seatbacks to better support the backs and necks of taller people. Floors will be tiled dark gray with two lengthwise rows of red tiles near the seats. There will also be red tiles at each doorway that connect to the rows of red tiles. This will facilitate being able to locate where the exit doors are.

 

Of course the R46's would be retired after this project.

 

Here is my train, called the R230:

Division: IRT

Company: Bombardier

What trains they will replace: Some of the R62's (of course another contract will be needed circa 2025-2030 to finish replacing all of the R62's)

Length: Same as R62's

Trains: Singles (like the 62's, in case 230's end up on the (7))

Signage: Similar to NTT's

Material: Stainless steal

Features: There would be a better quality of PA system. For some reason the PA system seems to be WORSE on the NTT's than older trains. That's really annoying when there's a sudden change in service. In addition to this the NTT's seem to have glitches with the announcement system (something saying "This is Lexington Av-53rd Street" when I'm at Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Avenue, for example), so the goal of the 230's will be to iron out those glitches.

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R212 (Manhattan Liners).

 

Length: 75 foot.

Width: 10 foot.

Configuration: A-B-B-A, with Flex-Config (which means faster and seamless uncoupling as well as the opportunity to only deactivate 1 car if that particular car is experiencing problems and replacing with another car and instantly get the whole consist into working order again).

Manufacturer: Bombardier.

Division: B (require ABBABA configuration for Eastern Div.)

 

Car Body Exterior & Interior- Stainless Steel, design will feature a blue strip wrapping the entire car with the NYC logo embedded in the middle of the car on each side. The Front will have a blue color and the graphics will be similar to the ones featured on the R142/142A's with pixelated dots below the cab windows. The doors will be four pairs (or three wide pairs) on each side, and full doors for emergency crossings between cars. The cab ends of the A cars will have a 6 degree inward slant for enhanced aerodynamics and improve efficiency. The route display LED will be multicolor and have denser pixels and feature the regular route bullets e.g. (E)(D)(R). The FIND will feature dual LCD screens (one for (MTA) information/Route information and some ads, the other will be current weather, sports, top national news and some ads like how the PA5 has. The seats will be slightly bucket in order to prevent "butt shifting" during acceleration and deceleration. The walls will have a light gunmetal gray accent, the floors will be speckled blue instead of speckled red like the current R-160's, the seats will be blue like the PA5's and window frames and the car ends will continue to be stainless steel. There will be folding seats at the ends of each car (or before the first door and after the last door) so wheelchair customers and strollers have better access and room.

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Name: R268

To replace:R68's after their retirement in the mid to late 2020's

Number of cars: Roughly 700 R268's

Set: 5 car sets (A-B-B-B-A)

Length: R268 (60 ft long for each car)

Doors: R268 (10 per car)

Width: R268 (10 feet)

Height: 12 feet

Maximum Speed: 55 MPH

Seats: R268 (70)

Material: Stainless steel

Constructed: early 2020's

Manufacturer: Kawasaki

Numbers: 3011-3711 (R268)

Weight: 120,000 pounds (R268)

Propulsion: Siemens.

Brakes: WABCO.

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3 minutes ago, ibroketheprinter said:

Hear me out:

 

R222

Bombardier

A-B

200 Cars for SAS service mainly

Top Speed: 160 kmh

Basically an M7 but fit to subway size. Something that could get a good speed in the tunnels.

Means nothing when you have so many timers and speed restrictions

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2025-2028 Siemens-Alstom R262

Built at: 

Florin, California and Hornell, New York (Final assembly)

1,178 cars

Formation:

226 five car sets (three B cars)

8 six car sets (two B cars and two modified C cars with more standing room)

Fleet numbers:

Five car sets: 5201-6300, 1301-1330

Six car sets: 1331-1378

Capacity:

174 (A car)

188 (B car)

200 (C car)

Services assigned:

Five car sets: (2)(5)(6)<6> 

Six car sets: (S) 

Traction system:

IGBT-VVVF (Bombardier MITRAC DR1000)  [Same propulsion as the London Underground 2009 stock]

 

The design of these cars resembles the R211 cars with blue front with large windows, LED headlights and a blue stripe with gold accents on the cab end of the A cars. To designate the route, a large LED screen with the route bullet will be displayed at the ends of the train similar to trains with rollsigns; in addition, the route's destination will be displayed above the door on the front.

Inside, these cars feature redesigned LCD information screens, Wi-Fi, LED-lit doorways, open gangways, USB charging ports and LED interior lighting. The seating on the inside will be blue and gold. Flip seats will be installed to allow for space for wheelchairs and all cars will have looped stanchions.

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On 5/3/2019 at 2:45 PM, Around the Horn said:

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2025-2028 Siemens-Alstom R262

Built at: 

Florin, California and Hornell, New York (Final assembly)

1,178 cars

Formation:

226 five car sets (three B cars)

8 six car sets (two B cars and two modified C cars with more standing room)

Fleet numbers:

Five car sets: 5201-6300, 1301-1330

Six car sets: 1331-1378

Capacity:

174 (A car)

188 (B car)

200 (C car)

Services assigned:

Five car sets: (2)(5)(6)<6> 

Six car sets: (S) 

Traction system:

IGBT-VVVF (Bombardier MITRAC DR1000)  [Same propulsion as the London Underground 2009 stock]

 

The design of these cars resembles the R211 cars with blue front with large windows, LED headlights and a blue stripe with gold accents on the cab end of the A cars. To designate the route, a large LED screen with the route bullet will be displayed at the ends of the train similar to trains with rollsigns; in addition, the route's destination will be displayed above the door on the front.

Inside, these cars feature redesigned LCD information screens, Wi-Fi, LED-lit doorways, open gangways, USB charging ports and LED interior lighting. The seating on the inside will be blue and gold. Flip seats will be installed to allow for space for wheelchairs and all cars will have looped stanchions.

Well. The mystery of who you are is no longer a mystery lmao.

Also, can we talk about how Roadcruiser literally called R262? His 1,200 number wasn't bad either.

Bravo my guy, bravo.

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Not really. Given the big jumps between R-numbers for the revenue cars since the R-series is used for almost anything car-related these days, it really isn't a huge leap to assume that the replacements for the 62s would be in the 200s. Besides, I think the MTA also chose that R-number symbolically, just as @Roadcruiser1 probably did.

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4 hours ago, Lance said:

Not really. Given the big jumps between R-numbers for the revenue cars since the R-series is used for almost anything car-related these days, it really isn't a huge leap to assume that the replacements for the 62s would be in the 200s. Besides, I think the MTA also chose that R-number symbolically, just as @Roadcruiser1 probably did.

Its not that they were in the 200s. That was expected. He got the EXACT number out of 199 possible. There's also no way anyone could have predicted your reasonings either.

Its an amazing coincidence. Let him have this lol

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The R211 are a good starting point in terms of wider doors and more digital signs inside. So start with that. 

Hi-res, full-color LED signs on exterior. This kind of tech (same as Times Square jumbo-trons) is actually pretty good and cheap now. No reason not to use it. LCDs aren't bright enough for exterior use. 

Exterior side displays mounted above or next to windows, instead of blocking the upper half of a window. 

Exterior-mounted sliding doors (Like JFK AirTrain, London Tube, etc.) allowing more interior space and much larger windows. 

Inside, keep the LED-based ceiling/end displays, but LCD strip maps (so much more useful info you can display) and LCD system maps, updated in real time to show both planned and unplanned service changes. 

Stainless steel inside and out. Clean and sleek. (None of this tacky blue outside and garish yellow inside.) 

Open gangways. 

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R42069

Manufacturers: Haor Chall/ACF

Propulsion: 1x J34 Turbojet, 4x DC motors

Speed: 9400 KPH

Design: Exterior exact same as R33, interior full LCD signage, heated/cooled seats automatically based on ambient air temperature, toilets located in every 2nd car with heated seats and bidets. Air-Tight. J34 mounted on a recess on the A end.

Formation: married pairs, with J34s facing outward. Rigid gangways.

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