Culver Viaduct Rehab Enters Phase 3A

[Guest lance25]

Starting Monday, November 14 and continuing until Spring of 2012, Coney Island-bound and Church Av-bound trains will operate on the express tracks after Carroll St and continuing though Church Av, meaning all downtown trains will bypass 15 St-Prospect Park and Fort Hamilton Pkwy.

 

In preparation, next weekend, there will be no train service between Jay St and 18 Av so that workers can put the hardrail connection from the downtown local track to the express ones between Carroll St and Smith-9 Sts, as well as construct the temporary platform on the northbound express track. Per usual with this G.O., trains will run to Euclid Av and trains will be truncated to 2 Av. trains are also running local in Brooklyn to compensate for the lack of trains.

 

http://mta.info/nyct/service/FG_CulverViaduct.htm

[Mistro]

I wish I could look out the front of the train. Always wondered what its like down there on those express tracks. A slant would be nice. :cool:

[Via Garibaldi 8]

So is this project actually on budget AND on schedule??? :eek:

[VWM]

gotta love express tracks!

someone should take a video of this

[Nova RTS 9147]

So is this project actually on budget AND on schedule??? :eek:

 

No. Had it gone by the original timetable this phase would have actually been done last month.

 

http://72.51.38.241/~corecode/uploads/document/uploaded_pdfs/corecode_parkslop/culver%20presentation%20080207%20final_98.pdf

[Guest lance25]

No. Had it gone by the original timetable this phase would have actually been done last month.

 

http://72.51.38.241/~corecode/uploads/document/uploaded_pdfs/corecode_parkslop/culver%20presentation%20080207%20final_98.pdf

 

Is anyone really surprised?

[Via Garibaldi 8]

No. Had it gone by the original timetable this phase would have actually been done last month.

 

http://72.51.38.241/~corecode/uploads/document/uploaded_pdfs/corecode_parkslop/culver%20presentation%20080207%20final_98.pdf

 

Hmm... Interesting...

 

Is anyone really surprised?

 

lol... No, but I haven't been up to speed on this project, so I was just wondering. Typical and disturbing nevertheless.

[INDman]

 

 

lol... No, but I haven't been up to speed on this project, so I was just wondering. Typical and disturbing nevertheless.

 

You do realize that most of the work is concrete work which can't be done in the cold weather right? That and it's a complex project because of the existing signal system and new new signal system being installed while different tracks are in use at different times and in different configurations then normal.

[Brighton Express]

No. Had it gone by the original timetable this phase would have actually been done last month.

 

http://72.51.38.241/~corecode/uploads/document/uploaded_pdfs/corecode_parkslop/culver%20presentation%20080207%20final_98.pdf

 

Interesting

[lilbluefoxie]

I wish I could look out the front of the train. Always wondered what its like down there on those express tracks. A slant would be nice. :cool:

 

you can still see out the front on a 160

[VWM]

Starting Monday, November 14 and continuing until Spring of 2012, Coney Island-bound and Church Av-bound trains will operate on the express tracks after Carroll St and continuing though Church Av, meaning all downtown trains will bypass 15 St-Prospect Park and Fort Hamilton Pkwy.

 

In preparation, next weekend, there will be no train service between Jay St and 18 Av so that workers can put the hardrail connection from the downtown local track to the express ones between Carroll St and Smith-9 Sts, as well as construct the temporary platform on the northbound express track. Per usual with this G.O., trains will run to Euclid Av and trains will be truncated to 2 Av. trains are also running local in Brooklyn to compensate for the lack of trains.

 

http://mta.info/nyct/service/FG_CulverViaduct.htm

 

Okay, so let me get this straight... the IND Crosstown will look something like this...

Bergen St

Carroll St Queens-bound only

Smith-9 Sts

4th Avenue Queens-bound only

7th Avenue

15 St-Prospect Park Queens-bound only

Church Av

[Fan Railer]

gotta love express tracks!

someone should take a video of this

 

Don't worry, there are a few of us who would be willing to jump at the chance of recording that next time we head down there =p

[Guest lance25]

Okay, so let me get this straight... the IND Crosstown will look something like this...

Bergen St

Carroll St Queens-bound only

Smith-9 Sts

4th Avenue Queens-bound only

7th Avenue

15 St-Prospect Park Queens-bound only

Church Av

 

Bergen & Carroll Sts - normal service

Smith-9 Sts - closed until next Spring

4 Av-9 St - normal service, temp platform for downtown trains

7 Av - normal service - dwntwn trains on express track

15 St-Prospect Park & Ft Hamilton Pkwy - northbound service only

Church Av - normal service

 

Hope that clears everything up.

[Bill from Maspeth]

Is anyone really surprised?

This is one of the largest projects ever undertaken by MTA. Don't forget, last winter was brutal for snowfall, way above average. That certainly slowed things down.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

You do realize that most of the work is concrete work which can't be done in the cold weather right? That and it's a complex project because of the existing signal system and new new signal system being installed while different tracks are in use at different times and in different configurations then normal.

 

And your point is? All I asked was if the job was on schedule or not. I don't want to hear about all of the reasons why it isn't. If they realized all of this then why not extend the completion date from the start so that they could be on time for once with a project? The last thing the needs is more excuses. They should put their logo next to the word in the dictionary.

[Guest lance25]

This is one of the largest projects ever undertaken by MTA. Don't forget, last winter was brutal for snowfall, way above average. That certainly slowed things down.

 

Believe me, I know. Those snowstorms delayed the project at least a month on their own. Forget about the brutally cold days where G.O.s were cancelled left and right.

 

And your point is? All I asked was if the job was on schedule or not. I don't want to hear about all of the reasons why it isn't. If they realized all of this then why not extend the completion date from the start so that they could be on time for once with a project? The last thing the needs is more excuses. They should put their logo next to the word in the dictionary.

 

When you come up with the device that changes the weather to more favorable conditions for construction work, please let us all know. Until then, stop complaining about things that can't be controlled.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

When you come up with the device that changes the weather to more favorable conditions for construction work, please let us all know. Until then, stop complaining about things that can't be controlled.

 

I wasn't complaining. I simply stated my opinion to which you disagree on so of course "I'm complaining." Any sort of criticism given towards them is always excused because they never do anything wrong. That's why I said typical and disturbing.

[6 Lexington Ave]

I wasn't complaining. I simply stated my opinion to which you disagree on so of course "I'm complaining." Any sort of criticism given towards them is always excused because they never do anything wrong. That's why I said typical and disturbing.

 

The problem is you never criticize constructively.. Thus, you're complaining..

[Via Garibaldi 8]

The problem is you never criticize constructively.. Thus, you're complaining..

 

And the problem is that there is no such thing as "constructive criticism" when it comes to the , so spare me. You're in love with our subway system, so of course you would say I'm complaining. Yeah it's massive and old and such but I still think they can do better and my opinion on that won't change since all I'll hear are a thousand excuses even when they're clearly wrong. Should the Greeks model their subway system after ours? lol *sarcasm*

[6 Lexington Ave]

And the problem is that there is no such thing as "constructive criticism" when it comes to the , so spare me. You're in love with our subway system, so of course you would say I'm complaining. Yeah it's massive and old and such but I still think they can do better and my opinion on that won't change since all I'll hear are a thousand excuses even when they're clearly wrong. Should the Greeks model their subway system after ours? lol *sarcasm*

 

The Greek subway system is a joke.. I'm not even gonna bother.. Spare me, as you say.

P.S. They can't be "clearly wrong". That's only your opinion as you said.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

The Greek subway system is a joke.. I'm not even gonna bother.. Spare me, as you say.

 

Well Greece isn't exactly that big, so that's completely understandable. The subway system in NYC is a necessity because of how big the population is here so it should be massive, but also more efficient. I still support shutting down segments of the system until the station is completely finished rather than doing it in stages.

[TwoTimer]

It seems that that the gut job rehabs used to finish on time, even though some have not entirely (notes the gut job rehabs on structure).

[Via Garibaldi 8]

It seems that that the gut job rehabs used to finish on time, even though some have not entirely (notes the gut job rehabs on structure).

 

lol... Interesting note... B)

[6 Lexington Ave]

Well Greece isn't exactly that big, so that's completely understandable. The subway system in NYC is a necessity because of how big the population is here so it should be massive, but also more efficient. I still support shutting down segments of the system until the station is completely finished rather than doing it in stages.

 

The problem that you don't understand is that it isn't a "Greek" subway, but an Athenian subway. Only for Athens, where half he population of Greece lives (4.5 million). It certainly needs to be bigger. They have stations, which are ready, but can't be used due to complicated corruption issues in the Greek political system, which cannot reach a deal with Siemens to install the signalling system. Waiting for a bus here is a bitch. Talk about inefficiency

Anyway, I guess we just have to agree to disagree.

[TwoTimer]

It seems that that the gut job rehabs used to finish on time, even though some have not entirely (notes the gut job rehabs on structure).

 

lol... Interesting note... B)

 

I remember the gut redos on the White Plains Line, when those finished and the temp plats removed, they were...done. When my home station (Parkchester ) was done, when they opened up both sides, the station was FAR from complete, the stairs to the crew quarters didn't even have a roof for months, nothing was done to the crew quarters, light fixtures were missing, and of course only half the mezzanine area was done. All those Rockaways stations opened up for the summer, even today I still go by stations that never had their walls/railings put back up, just the temp concrete barriers still remain, months after the rehabs were "finished". Only a handful of stations (the Averne by the Sea station comes to mind) were completely finished, which makes you wonder if there's a hierarchy based on the specific neighborhood these stations are in. Not saying Averne's high class, but its certain it is working-middle class compared to the stations closer to Mott Av. Today, there's still asethic details missing from the Pelham rehabs, and Walder basically said gut rehabs won't be done anymore (even though he's gone now, and I dont know the accuracy of that statement anymore).