Brooklyn IRT Poll

[VWM]

Would you finish the Brooklyn IRT if you were the

 

this includes the Utica Av Subway and the to Sheepshead Bay

[GojiMet86]

Yes...if the money was there and NIMBYism doesn't appear. Though something would be done about that juction near Franklin Avenue.

[Roadcruiser1]

What kind of question is this? Everyone in NYC would have subway service if there was the money by now.

[lilbluefoxie]

Probably not, I would put it towards improvements in other areas such as the long island railroad and metro north railroad

[MattTrain]

I'd get it done, especially the so Flatbush Avenue won't have the distinction of knowing which train is leaving first before boarding that corresponding platform. Just my two cents.

[6 Lexington Ave]

Definitely! The further the subway reaches, the better! As long as there's money, of course..

[Andres]

Nobody should have to walk more than 10 blocks to catch a train or make to many bus transfers to get to the train

[CenSin]

The IRT, in my opinion, should not be extended where an IND line can do the job better. Extending the Nostrand Avenue line would be fine since it already "owns" the avenue and is relatively straightforward. The Utica Avenue line should probably be done as prescribed by the Second System plans so the IRT Brooklyn branches can have some relief.

[TriboroughBridge]

Nobody should have to walk more than 10 blocks to catch a train or make to many bus transfers to get to the train

 

Whitestone, Bayside, Throgs Neck, South Central Queens, Country Club (especially if you need west side service) & Canarsie, are in need of some sort of subway service. I know Canarsie has the , but it doesnt service most of Canarsie.

 

But in my opinion, I dont think the & need to be extended. The (B44) already has pretty fast service & when the SBS comes to the (B44), it'll only be faster.

 

The should, however, make staircases at Flatbush ave above or below the trains so we can easily crossover/under.

[VWM]

Whitestone, Bayside, Throgs Neck, South Central Queens, Country Club (especially if you need west side service) & Canarsie, are in need of some sort of subway service. I know Canarsie has the , but it doesnt service most of Canarsie.

 

But in my opinion, I dont think the & need to be extended. The (B44) already has pretty fast service & when the SBS comes to the (B44), it'll only be faster.

 

The should, however, make staircases at Flatbush ave above or below the trains so we can easily crossover/under.

 

Why not extend the ? The (B44) isn't on Nostrand Avenue. It can give Sheepshead riders alternatives instead of buses and the ( and .

[Roadcruiser1]

It is going to take decades to extend the and to Sheepshead Bay-Voorhies Avenue. Unless if it is elevated of course like in the original IRT plan. Maybe if the tunneling option is picked it could be dug using the cut and cover method. The extra soil could be use as fill for more development in Brooklyn, and I would assume the cut and cover method is quicker. Digging a ditch and putting steel beams following a street is cheaper then using a TBM and digging holes into the bedrock.

[Fresh Pond]

It is going to take decades to extend the and to Sheepshead Bay-Voorhies Avenue. Unless if it is elevated of course like in the original IRT plan. Maybe if the tunneling option is picked it could be dug using the cut and cover method. The extra soil could be use as fill for more development in Brooklyn, and I would assume the cut and cover method is quicker. Digging a ditch and putting steel beams following a street is cheaper then using a TBM and digging holes into the bedrock.

 

I wouldn't even say its cheaper. You gotta reroute sewer, water, & gas pipes, shore up houses so they won't fall in the hole, diverge traffic (that would be the worse thing to do on Nostrand since its that busy, espically near the junction).

 

With a TBM, all you do is dig a hole for where you put it in the ground (and move the utilities from that area) and it does the rest from there.

 

Besides, TBMs are way faster than cut and cover

[checkmatechamp13]

Why not extend the ? The (B44) isn't on Nostrand Avenue. It can give Sheepshead riders alternatives instead of buses and the ( and .

 

What do you mean? The B44 spends most of its time on Nostrand Avenue.

 

In any case, these areas definitely have enough ridership to support the service. Many cities have areas that are similar in character to those areas in Brooklyn and they have good subway service.

[Via Garibaldi 8]

I would say NO. Some folks purposely live in areas where there are no subways and those areas are generally safer and more expensive to live in. If I were to build anything it would be commuter train service and it would be on par with MetroNorth and the LIRR but no subway. Those areas were meant to be suburban, hence why many of them have express buses, which is what many prefer in those areas.

 

I like the fact that Riverdale doesn't have a subway and that's one reason why it has remained so quiet and desirable.

 

Whitestone, Bayside, Throgs Neck, South Central Queens, Country Club (especially if you need west side service) & Canarsie, are in need of some sort of subway service. I know Canarsie has the , but it doesnt service most of Canarsie.

 

But in my opinion, I dont think the & need to be extended. The (B44) already has pretty fast service & when the SBS comes to the (B44), it'll only be faster.

 

The should, however, make staircases at Flatbush ave above or below the trains so we can easily crossover/under.

 

Believe me, Country Club has no desire for subway service. They're happy with their express bus service, as is Throgs Neck. Back in the day, areas with no subway service like Throgs Neck were some of the last affluent areas in the Bronx, while areas with subway service were run down and generally poor.

[trainfan22]

The (2)/(5) line south of BC - Flatbush Ave would have to take a steep dip down to avoid the BR Branch, as they are about evenly lined up.

 

If I was the MTA and there was some money I would use it to put the on the unused portion of the LIRR Rockaway Branch and run it down to Rock Park to replace the .

 

And of course, put transit service on the BR Branch, Light Rail though as I doubt ridership would be heavy enough for 8 or 10 Car 60FT Subway cars. A BR Branch Transit service would basically be another train lol.

 

Phase 1 Would be 4th/5th Ave to Broadway Junction. Or 86th/4th Ave (Tunnel from 86th to the BR ROW) to Broadway Junction

 

Phase 2 would branch off somewhere in Caransie (And run in a tunnel) and serve SC Towers, Gateway Mall, Casino before finally ending @ JFK Airport.

 

Phase 3 would run up the BR line up until it gets near LGA Airport and end there.

 

Phase 3 might be a Problem a CSX trains use the Oak Point - Fresh Pond part of the route during the day, I remember I was waiting @ Astoria -Ditmas for a 68 train during the midday and a CSX went by overhead (I saw the Freight Cars).

[GojiMet86]

The (2)/(5) line south of BC - Flatbush Ave would have to take a steep dip down to avoid the BR Branch, as they are about evenly lined up.

 

If I was the MTA and there was some money I would use it to put the on the unused portion of the LIRR Rockaway Branch and run it down to Rock Park to replace the .

 

And of course, put transit service on the BR Branch, Light Rail though as I doubt ridership would be heavy enough for 8 or 10 Car 60FT Subway cars. A BR Branch Transit service would basically be another train lol.

 

Phase 1 Would be 4th/5th Ave to Broadway Junction. Or 86th/4th Ave (Tunnel from 86th to the BR ROW) to Broadway Junction

 

Phase 2 would branch off somewhere in Caransie (And run in a tunnel) and serve SC Towers, Gateway Mall, Casino before finally ending @ JFK Airport.

 

Phase 3 would run up the BR line up until it gets near LGA Airport and end there.

 

Phase 3 might be a Problem a CSX trains use the Oak Point - Fresh Pond part of the route during the day, I remember I was waiting @ Astoria -Ditmas for a 68 train during the midday and a CSX went by overhead (I saw the Freight Cars).

 

The line above the Astoria line has three tracks: two for Amtrak and one for the freight trains. There is space for four tracks. I'd say in case a subway line does go up there, the freight trains would have to share the Amtrak tracks.