dmouse Posted November 11, 2011 Share #1 Posted November 11, 2011 I read on here a while back that NF wasn't the lowest bidder on the artic contract, it was Ikarus. But because NABI merged with Ikarus the wanted no business with them and went to New Flyer. What was the model from Ikarus that was coming to nyc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The TransitMan Posted November 11, 2011 Share #2 Posted November 11, 2011 I read on here a while back that NF wasn't the lowest bidder on the artic contract, it was Ikarus. But because NABI merged with Ikarus the wanted no business with them and went to New Flyer. What was the model from Ikarus that was coming to nyc? Most likely, it would have been the American Ikarus 436 model. Cities like Miami-Dade County Transit, MTA Maryland, WMATA to name a few. Now before NABI came, Ikarus teamed up with Orion (hence your Orion 03.501 model). The ONLY U.S. system to operate those buses (AFAIK) was Milwaukee County Transit System back in the mid-80s (1986) when MOST of you were either babies OR were not even born yet. Canada cashed in on those buses with Toronto having a bit before "wising-up" ....I mean sending some to OC Transpo, which THAT system ran them like NJTransit ran NYCTA's Grumman Flxibles. The difference was they did not last for 20 years as they were replaced by the New Flyer D60LF #6000s. Hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted November 13, 2011 Share #3 Posted November 13, 2011 I always wondered how come MTA doesnt like NABI lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted November 13, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted November 13, 2011 I always wondered how come MTA doesnt like NABI lol Probably NABI's designs are just unappealing to them. Or I think it had something to do with spec issues dont remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted November 13, 2011 Share #5 Posted November 13, 2011 I always wondered how come MTA doesnt like NABI lol They probably didnt give the S/I that's on the "buy" a nice enough dinner, or send a nice.enough hooked to his hotel room...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted November 13, 2011 Share #6 Posted November 13, 2011 Most likely, it would have been the American Ikarus 436 model. Cities like Miami-Dade County Transit, MTA Maryland, WMATA to name a few. Now before NABI came, Ikarus teamed up with Orion (hence your Orion 03.501 model). The ONLY U.S. system to operate those buses (AFAIK) was Milwaukee County Transit System back in the mid-80s (1986) when MOST of you were either babies OR were not even born yet. Canada cashed in on those buses with Toronto having a bit before "wising-up" ....I mean sending some to OC Transpo, which THAT system ran them like NJTransit ran NYCTA's Grumman Flxibles. The difference was they did not last for 20 years as they were replaced by the New Flyer D60LF #6000s. Hope that helps! TTC and OC Transpo had their own orders of Orion III's with OC Transpo buying some of the ex TTC units for service and parts after TTC retired those. Also those D60LF's that replaced them in Ottawa have been replaced with new D60LFR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookiePhenom Posted November 13, 2011 Share #7 Posted November 13, 2011 The CTA's debacle with our NABI's a few years ago might be somewhat discerning and you guys might not want much of that either. (The case is still ongoing...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compobus fan Posted November 14, 2011 Share #8 Posted November 14, 2011 I always wondered how come MTA doesnt like NABI lol I believe it is the opposite, NABI has had NO interest in dealing with the MTA at all citing the "cost of doing business" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitz Posted November 15, 2011 Share #9 Posted November 15, 2011 I believe it is the opposite, NABI has had NO interest in dealing with the MTA at all citing the "cost of doing business" I would think that the amount of publicity that could be gained from a successful term of service in the country's #1 transit agency would out weight the "cost of doing business" by leaps and bounds. Maybe they are just not ready to stand behind their product the way the MTA wants them to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share #10 Posted November 16, 2011 I would think that the amount of publicity that could be gained from a successful term of service in the country's #1 transit agency would out weight the "cost of doing business" by leaps and bounds. Maybe they are just not ready to stand behind their product the way the MTA wants them to... If NABI screws over the with a design flaw or such, they could easily go out of business with one good lawsuit. That's my guess. Hey it happened with Pullman & St Louis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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