Wallyhorse Posted January 9, 2018 Share #1126 Posted January 9, 2018 I was thinking in terms of what was done in Philly with the Market-Frankford line when they were doing all the upgrades they did over the last couple of decades. This included during the summer one and sometimes two-week shutdowns of parts of the line to do that work. That to me is a reason to at the very least explore expanding Essex Street as the first station of a super long-term plan to eventually do such with ALL stations on the Nassau Street Line and eventually the entire Eastern Division. So this to me is related to FASTRACK, but on a much longer-term line. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q43LTD Posted January 10, 2018 Share #1127 Posted January 10, 2018 No Fastracks fro 2018 so far 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted January 10, 2018 Share #1128 Posted January 10, 2018 Next week sees the beginning of a two week late night closure of 8th Avenue from 59 St-Columbus Circle to Jay St. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 10, 2018 Share #1129 Posted January 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Lance said: Next week sees the beginning of a two week late night closure of 8th Avenue from 59 St-Columbus Circle to Jay St. That'll be interesting with all the 7th Ave /53rd St - Rockefeller Center issues they've been having. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 11, 2018 Share #1130 Posted January 11, 2018 They're including the maps on the site with the Fastrack changes now? http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/subwayActionPlan/Subwayplans_ace.htm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted January 12, 2018 Share #1131 Posted January 12, 2018 With that mix of colors on one trunk, it's looking like the old Vignelli maps a bit! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 13, 2018 Share #1132 Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 5:34 PM, N6 Limited said: They're including the maps on the site with the Fastrack changes now? http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/subwayActionPlan/Subwayplans_ace.htm In that situation (in this case, Jan. 15-19 and 23-26), I would suspend the entirely and have the run an extended full route to 179 to replace the during Fasttrack on such nights. Also, why not also have such Fasttracks Sunday night into Monday morning to give workers an extra night to get such work done? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadcorder Posted January 13, 2018 Share #1133 Posted January 13, 2018 11 hours ago, Wallyhorse said: In that situation (in this case, Jan. 15-19 and 23-26), I would suspend the entirely and have the run an extended full route to 179 to replace the during Fasttrack on such nights. Also, why not also have such Fasttracks Sunday night into Monday morning to give workers an extra night to get such work done? Weekend closures are still active Sunday night until 5AM. For instance, the 6 Av Line is closed until 5AM Monday. So 8 Av can't shut down until Monday night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtehpanda Posted January 14, 2018 Share #1134 Posted January 14, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 2:34 PM, N6 Limited said: They're including the maps on the site with the Fastrack changes now? http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/subwayActionPlan/Subwayplans_ace.htm Their changes are getting better, with the less is more trend, but they could go quite a bit of ways. De-emphasize fastracks, and make the copy for the times a little less verbose: "M-F 9:30PM-5AM next day", with the next line "1/15-1/19, 1/22-1/26" underneath. All of that text should be gone and shown on the map somehow. Major transfer points are not noted on the map for some reason, which IMO is a major miss. The definition of "early" for the is a bit vague; with a bit of thinking you can say it ends at 9:30PM, but that isn't inherently obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 15, 2018 Share #1135 Posted January 15, 2018 On 1/13/2018 at 10:16 AM, quadcorder said: Weekend closures are still active Sunday night until 5AM. For instance, the 6 Av Line is closed until 5AM Monday. So 8 Av can't shut down until Monday night. That then makes sense. When such G.O.'s don't overlap like that, however, I would think where possible such FASTRACK G.O.'s should start on Sunday night to give crews an extra night to work on such (and when Sunday is involved, I would start such at 8:00 PM instead of 9:30 on Sunday to give even more time). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadcorder Posted January 15, 2018 Share #1136 Posted January 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Wallyhorse said: That then makes sense. When such G.O.'s don't overlap like that, however, I would think where possible such FASTRACK G.O.'s should start on Sunday night to give crews an extra night to work on such (and when Sunday is involved, I would start such at 8:00 PM instead of 9:30 on Sunday to give even more time). It would create rider confusion to have to track multiple different closure schedules. Right now, almost all closures are either weekend (Friday night to Monday morning) or weeknight (Monday through Thursday nights). This means you can look up the changes for the weekend and that knowledge will be enough for the whole weekend. The added complexity would definitely add to rider confusion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted January 15, 2018 Share #1137 Posted January 15, 2018 9 hours ago, quadcorder said: It would create rider confusion to have to track multiple different closure schedules. Right now, almost all closures are either weekend (Friday night to Monday morning) or weeknight (Monday through Thursday nights). This means you can look up the changes for the weekend and that knowledge will be enough for the whole weekend. The added complexity would definitely add to rider confusion. I'm thinking more in terms of having five nights instead of four for such on FASTRACK. By starting such earlier on Sundays (usually 8:00 PM) where possible, it gives workers even more time. Riders should learn to pay attention much more and read the signs. If they get upset, in my view that's on them for not being aware of such changes (you learn to make yourself aware of such). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadcorder Posted January 15, 2018 Share #1138 Posted January 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Wallyhorse said: I'm thinking more in terms of having five nights instead of four for such on FASTRACK. By starting such earlier on Sundays (usually 8:00 PM) where possible, it gives workers even more time. Riders should learn to pay attention much more and read the signs. If they get upset, in my view that's on them for not being aware of such changes (you learn to make yourself aware of such). There could always be more time for work. It's a trade-off with customer inconvenience. Sure, people would learn to check for updates again on Sunday evening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowblock Posted February 1, 2018 Share #1139 Posted February 1, 2018 Wallyhorse, always good for a laugh. If 145 on the hasn't been extended yet, don't count on ANYTHING ELSE getting extended. They'd do the line way before they'd even consider doing the or ..... and even if you had 600 ft platform at Essex St, that still doesn't take into consideration that 75 ft cars can't use the Chrystie St connector to get there, so you can forget about the or terminating at Essex (and why bother when 2 Av makes a perfectly fine terminal?), which leaves just the which can already platform at Essex just fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love NY Posted February 11, 2018 Share #1140 Posted February 11, 2018 http://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/overnight-work-advance-mta-subway-action-plan-efmr-lines Therefore no E trains in Manhattan late night for 2 weeks in the weekdays? Ridicolous........ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosciusko Posted February 11, 2018 Share #1141 Posted February 11, 2018 46 minutes ago, I love NY said: Therefore no E trains in Manhattan late night for 2 weeks in the weekdays? Ridicolous........ The work needs to be done. Would you rather have shitty service forever? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted February 13, 2018 Share #1142 Posted February 13, 2018 They should extend it and get that CBTC done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 13, 2018 Share #1143 Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/11/2018 at 4:05 PM, kosciusko said: The work needs to be done. Would you rather have shitty service forever? In this situation, I would re-route the and to 96th-2nd between start of FASTRACK and end of service for each line. Alternatively for the (R), I would either have it run with the to Astoria OR if a turnaround can be done fast enough, have it terminate at 60th and Lexington until end of service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted February 13, 2018 Share #1144 Posted February 13, 2018 That's a lot of potential congestion for just to retain a couple of supplemental service for a couple of extra hours. That would create new mergers between the and at Lexington Av-63 St and the and at 57 St-7 Av. I don't think it's worth it just to keep the services running for 2-3 hours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted February 13, 2018 Share #1145 Posted February 13, 2018 On 2/11/2018 at 3:17 PM, I love NY said: http://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/overnight-work-advance-mta-subway-action-plan-efmr-lines Therefore no E trains in Manhattan late night for 2 weeks in the weekdays? Ridicolous........ There is no service for all trains along that segment of the line and all you can think about is your home line? That reflects the pervasive selfish and I-want-it-now mentality of New Yorkers. Take the . I promise it won’t be as bad as a bus or walking and not as expensive as getting an Uber. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted February 13, 2018 Share #1146 Posted February 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Lance said: That's a lot of potential congestion for just to retain a couple of supplemental service for a couple of extra hours. That would create new mergers between the and at Lexington Av-63 St and the and at 57 St-7 Av. I don't think it's worth it just to keep the services running for 2-3 hours. The ends early during the Fastrack actually. But regardless, I agree with you its unnecessary 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 13, 2018 Share #1147 Posted February 13, 2018 They should post the departures (approximate) for the last to Manhattan, last to Queens (at Manhattan), last to Manhattan/Brooklyn, and last to Queens. That way, it would make it easier to know whether or not to risk taking either train, or somehow getting to the (7). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Posted February 13, 2018 Share #1148 Posted February 13, 2018 I don't know why they haven't done so. I mean, they obviously give the last trains for the and when those lines end early. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 18, 2018 Share #1149 Posted February 18, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 11:32 AM, Lance said: That's a lot of potential congestion for just to retain a couple of supplemental service for a couple of extra hours. That would create new mergers between the and at Lexington Av-63 St and the and at 57 St-7 Av. I don't think it's worth it just to keep the services running for 2-3 hours. I do, especially with the because you have a lot of people in Brooklyn who do need the 6th Avenue Service at all times. The mergers would be after rush hour, so it likely would not be as bad to do it at those time and to me worth it in order to keep services going that some people actually need. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I love NY Posted July 8, 2019 Share #1150 Posted July 8, 2019 In 2018 and 2019 there have been very few fastracks. Maybe the new technologies (https://thecity.nyc/2019/06/new-technology-signals-hope-for-faster-subways-down-the-line.html) about the signals are already working? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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