overclocked Posted February 29, 2012 Share #251 Posted February 29, 2012 Unless of course the is running express during this overnight period as well.(IMO it should and have the run local between 145th and West 4th) That is precisely what it does. 6th Ave Fastrack 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted February 29, 2012 Share #252 Posted February 29, 2012 That is precisely what it does.6th Ave Fastrack Cool thanks. Looks like from readin that map these changes occured besides the 6th Ave line shutdown. They seem to include the running overnight the full route, along with the having 'owl' service via the Bridge. And the also running as an 8th Ave express all night between 145th and Canal. Still a Fulton Local in Brooklyn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 29, 2012 Share #253 Posted February 29, 2012 What about turning the at 135? Wasteful, but appeasing. Hint #1 for the © FASTRACK is posted: the ends early and the notes imply that the is going to 2 Av. Which to me is stupid. It would be better for those days to completely suspend the and have the run in the 's place via 8th Avenue and QB, extended to Parsons-Archer as I would have done for the current 8th Avenue shutdown (with the running its normal weekday route in the current FastTrack other than being extended). That would eliminate the normal shuttle for those nights and eliminate the need for a set-up at 2nd Avenue when the can pick up the slack using its regular terminal at Metropolitan and the 's Parsons-Archer terminal. The only thing it might cause is some small inconveniences in the overnight and at the start of AM rush hour if people at Chambers who normally take the to/from there have to walk to the platform for a train there and also maybe having to extend local service during the 6th Avenue G.O. in Manhattan for say an extra 15-30 minutes in the morning to cover Spring Street before the trains come from Jamaica Center and ©'s from their terminals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted February 29, 2012 Share #254 Posted February 29, 2012 Which to me is stupid. It would be better for those days to completely suspend the and have the run in the 's place via 8th Avenue and QB, extended to Parsons-Archer as I would have done for the current 8th Avenue shutdown (with the running its normal weekday route in the current FastTrack other than being extended). That would eliminate the normal shuttle for those nights and eliminate the need for a set-up at 2nd Avenue when the can pick up the slack using its regular terminal at Metropolitan and the 's Parsons-Archer terminal. The only thing it might cause is some small inconveniences in the overnight and at the start of AM rush hour if people at Chambers who normally take the to/from there have to walk to the platform for a train there and also maybe having to extend local service during the 6th Avenue G.O. in Manhattan for say an extra 15-30 minutes in the morning to cover Spring Street before the trains come from Jamaica Center and ©'s from their terminals. Or a better option would been extend the ® to Parsons/Archer since the ® is running 24/7 during this 6th ave line shutdown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 29, 2012 Share #255 Posted February 29, 2012 Or a better option would been extend the ® to Parsons/Archer since the ® is running 24/7 during this 6th ave line shutdown. Good point! The ® could easily do it if it is running 24/7 anyway during the shutdown. That said, I would also suspend the and have the replace it to 71-Continental. That to me makes more sense than having the run to/from 2nd Avenue since the can easily pick up the 's route in its place and simply run its normal weekday route (other than running via 8th Avenue instead of 6th) with minimal inconveniences at the start AM rush. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacie Jane Posted February 29, 2012 Share #256 Posted February 29, 2012 The ® is not running 24/7. The map posted upthread is (stupidly) based on normal, non-late night service. Note how it also shows the © along 8th Avenue (which to answer your question Shortline, is also running express to make room for the ). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 29, 2012 Share #257 Posted February 29, 2012 The ® is not running 24/7. The map posted upthread is (stupidly) based on normal, non-late night service. Note how it also shows the © along 8th Avenue (which to answer your question Shortline, is also running express to make room for the ). If that is the case, then this reverts back to what I originally said I'd do, that being to suspend the during FastTrack and on those nights, have the substitute running the 's regular route along 8th avenue and it's own route otherwise while being extended to Parsons-Archer to also replace the along that stretch (with the obviously running all night as opposed to its normal shuttle route). The only thing that might have to be done differently in this scenario is to have some (A)s run local in Manhattan at the very beginning of AM rush to cover local stations on 8th Avenue until the © and can cover those stations as normal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted February 29, 2012 Share #258 Posted February 29, 2012 I wonder why the isn't running to Bway-Laf. and just relaying north of there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted February 29, 2012 Share #259 Posted February 29, 2012 Yeah the TA should have done it that way, just like the old (Q6Av). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted February 29, 2012 Share #260 Posted February 29, 2012 I wonder why the isn't running to Bway-Laf. and just relaying north of there. I guess you mean the Brooklyn(4th Ave/West end) section right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted February 29, 2012 Share #261 Posted February 29, 2012 I guess you mean the Brooklyn(4th Ave/West end) section right? That's what he's trying to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted February 29, 2012 Share #262 Posted February 29, 2012 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted February 29, 2012 Share #263 Posted February 29, 2012 © plan released, and it's relatively simple: runs local on CPW, then via the to Jay St (6 Av Express) © ends early all local to 2 Av http://advisory.mtan...ASTRACK_map.pdf Note that the number of non-FASTRACK related GO's have increased, and there is no northbound ® service in Lower Manhattan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted February 29, 2012 Share #264 Posted February 29, 2012 plan released, and it's relatively simple: runs local on CPW, then via the to Jay St (6 Av Express) ends early all local to 2 Av http://advisory.mtanyct.info/pdf_files/ACE_FASTRACK_map.pdf Note that the number of non-FASTRACK related GO's have increased, and there is no northbound service in Lower Manhattan. It says via 6th Avenue local for the Train Actually not Express. And btw why does it have the Train listed at 72nd Street? Unless its going local but it didn't say on the regular MTA Page 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted February 29, 2012 Share #265 Posted February 29, 2012 plan released, and it's relatively simple: runs local on CPW, then via the to Jay St (6 Av Express) ends early all local to 2 Av http://advisory.mtanyct.info/pdf_files/ACE_FASTRACK_map.pdf Note that the number of non-FASTRACK related GO's have increased, and there is no northbound service in Lower Manhattan. Note that the linked map says that the stops at 7 Av. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted March 1, 2012 Share #266 Posted March 1, 2012 According to the GO, which is always more accurate than the map, Service operates between 207 St and Lefferts Blvd/Far Rockaway as follows: • Via local between 168 St and 59 St-Columbus Circle • Via the between 59 St-Columbus Circle and 34 St-Herald Sq • Via the between 34 St-Herald Sq and Jay St-MetroTech 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric B Posted March 1, 2012 Share #267 Posted March 1, 2012 I guess you mean the Brooklyn(4th Ave/West end) section right? That's what he's trying to say.Yeah; because the actual Fasttrack work is north of W4, and the to 2nd and are still traveling through that section. Unless they're tacking on some work on the express tracks south of W4 also, or something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted March 1, 2012 Share #268 Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah; because the actual Fasttrack work is north of W4, and the to 2nd and are still traveling through that section. Unless they're tacking on some work on the express tracks south of W4 also, or something. I just got back from Bway-Lafayette and there are workers doing work on the express tracks and doing some cleaning at the station. I guess that's why the from Stillwell was not sent there. While Grand Street is closed, I guess there are workers there too. In addition, if not for the GO split in 2 sections, the D would have terminated at Pacific Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted March 1, 2012 Share #269 Posted March 1, 2012 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted March 1, 2012 Share #270 Posted March 1, 2012 I wonder why the isn't running to Bway-Laf. and just relaying north of there. Good question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m7zanr160s Posted March 1, 2012 Share #271 Posted March 1, 2012 Note that the linked map says that the stops at 7 Av. Good eye. How'd they miss that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted March 1, 2012 Share #272 Posted March 1, 2012 Which to me is stupid. It would be better for those days to completely suspend the and have the run in the (E)'s place via 8th Avenue and QB, extended to Parsons-Archer as I would have done for the current 8th Avenue shutdown (with the running its normal weekday route in the current FastTrack other than being extended). That would eliminate the normal shuttle for those nights and eliminate the need for a set-up at 2nd Avenue when the can pick up the slack using its regular terminal at Metropolitan and the (E)'s Parsons-Archer terminal. The only thing it might cause is some small inconveniences in the overnight and at the start of AM rush hour if people at Chambers who normally take the to/from there have to walk to the platform for a train there and also maybe having to extend local service during the 6th Avenue G.O. in Manhattan for say an extra 15-30 minutes in the morning to cover Spring Street before the trains come from Jamaica Center and ©'s from their terminals. How about no.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted March 1, 2012 Share #273 Posted March 1, 2012 Why don't they merge the southern with the northern ? People will still be able to connect between sections via the and trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted March 2, 2012 Share #274 Posted March 2, 2012 Why don't they merge the southern with the northern ? People will still be able to connect between sections via the and trains. I mentioned that too. But someone pointed out, it may confuse passengers who want ether Bronx or Brooklyn bound service. People who get on the along Broadway would think its going to the Bronx, and those who get on the along 8th Avenue may get confuse of it going to Brooklyn. If its sooooooo confusing, then send the to 42nd Street for connecting directly between the (D)s rather then Whitehall Street, forcing people to use the at Jay or the to 42nd. I was at Whitehall Street and Jay this week, and people were confused as hell. But Idc, some of them are at fault for being to lazy and NOT read the G/O posters, which has been up about week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted March 2, 2012 Share #275 Posted March 2, 2012 i'd wonder what it be like if they put FASTRACK on the LIRR/Metro-North 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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