GreatOne2k Posted February 17, 2012 Share #201 Posted February 17, 2012 A train in revenue service in Queens. Yes, that would be a real sight. But then some other train would have to replace the in Upper Manhattan and the Bronx. The © would run overnight to 205 St in the Bronx replacing the . The © and used to run to the Bronx even before the was created. Since it is an 8th Avenue local, the © could just be extended to 205 St overnight instead of the running on 8th Avenue. The © would run from 2 Av - 205 St in this case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted February 18, 2012 Share #202 Posted February 18, 2012 By sending the Brooklyn D-trains to Whitehall Street, those D-trains pass through the Jay Street-MetroTech station where A and F train service is available (via the R-train station). That is how the MTA is "connecting" the parts of the D-train for this Fast-Track session. Mike But you could still connect with the via 8th Avenue and Broadway at 42nd Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted February 18, 2012 Share #203 Posted February 18, 2012 More workers, no trains? BTW did all and trains use the Middle Platform at 34th street as the terminal during Fasttrack? Yes. Yes they did. They were cleanimg the platforms/tracks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted February 18, 2012 Share #204 Posted February 18, 2012 The is 8Av local to W4th, then downstairs where it will terminate at 2Av. Remember by this time the © would have stopped running. You will have the all on 8Av from 42-W4 in both directions. goes back on 6Av afterwards (its not shown to confuse people into thinking it can get to Grand St from W4) to terminate at 2Av, along with the going back to its normal route. There will be a few still on the express track on 8Av after 10pm. For the photo ops people here are the hot spots: at Whitehall/Court/Jay (very rare) at 2Av (rare) anywhere along 8Av (rare) and on 3 and 1 tracks respectively below 59th-CC (very rare). The Is Schedule to run Express between 145th Street And Canal Street during this fastrack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted February 18, 2012 Share #205 Posted February 18, 2012 More workers, no trains? When I talked about a weekend GO I mean a full shutdown with busing like the or GO's, not a situation where workers have to clear up for trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 18, 2012 Share #206 Posted February 18, 2012 The © would run overnight to 205 St in the Bronx replacing the . The © and used to run to the Bronx even before the was created. Since it is an 8th Avenue local, the © could just be extended to 205 St overnight instead of the running on 8th Avenue. The © would run from 2 Av - 205 St in this case. Or since the © is an eight-car, 480' train, the © could actually run to the Essex Street (J)/ station and terminate there or even continue to Metropolitan Avenue and for those nights replace the shuttle. The to Whitehall is a good move because it does allow for transfers at MetroTech to the (A)/ and (2)/ (3)/ (4)/ at Court Street in addition to obviously Atlantic-Pacific, plus the at Whitehall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alejr88 Posted February 18, 2012 Share #207 Posted February 18, 2012 Facepalm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted February 18, 2012 Share #208 Posted February 18, 2012 Oh lord here we go again. The is also in two sections, btw, with Bronx crews doing the 205/BPK to 2Av and Brooklyn crews doing the Stillwell to Whitehall section. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted February 18, 2012 Share #209 Posted February 18, 2012 Or since the © is an eight-car, 480' train, the © could actually run to the Essex Street (J)/ station and terminate there or even continue to Metropolitan Avenue and for those nights replace the shuttle. What part of cost-efficiency don't you get? Also, while it would be a railfan's wet dream to see the © back on Concourse, the idea is to keep service as normal as possible in the unaffected areas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted February 18, 2012 Share #210 Posted February 18, 2012 What part of cost-efficiency don't you get? Also, while it would be a railfan's wet dream to see the © back on Concourse, the idea is to keep service as normal as possible in the unaffected areas. The ©'s were up there last night, going up to BPK to turn and line up on 3/4 track north of 145. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted February 18, 2012 Share #211 Posted February 18, 2012 Figures. Still doesn't disprove my point though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatOne2k Posted February 19, 2012 Share #212 Posted February 19, 2012 The ©'s were up there last night, going up to BPK to turn and line up on 3/4 track north of 145. In service or OOS N/B? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted February 19, 2012 Share #213 Posted February 19, 2012 What part of cost-efficiency don't you get? Also, while it would be a railfan's wet dream to see the © back on Concourse, the idea is to keep service as normal as possible in the unaffected areas. I was simply pointing out the © scenario to the previous poster. Nothing more. The as being done actually does make much more sense, especially the Whitehall portion as previously noted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted February 19, 2012 Share #214 Posted February 19, 2012 In service or OOS N/B? OoS. In service to 145 lower only. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BM5 via Woodhaven Posted February 22, 2012 Share #215 Posted February 22, 2012 Is the terminating at 2 Avenue because of the track configuration south of W.4 street 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted February 22, 2012 Share #216 Posted February 22, 2012 Is the terminating at 2 Avenue because of the track configuration south of W.4 street This will answer your question: http://advisory.mtanyct.info/pdf_files/BDFM_FASTRACK_map.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted February 22, 2012 Share #217 Posted February 22, 2012 Is the terminating at 2 Avenue because of the track configuration south of W.4 street Yeah. There's no track connection from 8th Ave to the Manhattan Bridge north tracks southbound. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjbr40 Posted February 23, 2012 Share #218 Posted February 23, 2012 there is a switch track on both side of west 4 street brooklyn bound side of the station. Going toward the bridge before entering west 4 street , there is a switch for both the local and express. After leaving the west 4 street only the local side or the F train had a switch to the Ind Fulton line and vice versa. Going toward queens and bronx, after Broadway lafayette, there is a switch for both F and express track. Before entering west 4 street there is another set of switch for the Ind fulton and the F to switch places. After west 4 street, i think there only a switch from the local to express track only. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel The Cool Posted February 23, 2012 Share #219 Posted February 23, 2012 Well I'm going to be railfanning the Train via 8th Avenue on March 1st 2012 to get videos/pics of this.:cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTimer Posted February 23, 2012 Share #220 Posted February 23, 2012 Well I'm going to be railfanning the Train via 8th Avenue on March 1st 2012 to get videos/pics of this.:cool: Well we knew that. That Whitehall thing will be a good look too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACEVE14 Posted February 23, 2012 Share #221 Posted February 23, 2012 I know that my 1st FASTRACK prediction was a little bit wrong, and my second one might be the same, so here is the one that will be affecting the © Train lines between 59th St-Columbus Circle or 5th Av-53rd St and W 4th St-Washington Square in 3 different ways from 10:00 PM Monday March 12th-5:00 AM Friday March 16th: - Trains run via the ( and Lines between 59th St-Columbus Circle and W 4th St-Washington Square, then runs local between W 4th St-Washington Square and Canal St in both directions. -© Train service ends early (last train to Euclid Av leaves 168th St at 9:32 PM and last train to 168th St leaves Euclid Av at 9:19 PM). - Trains run via the Line between 5th Av-53rd St and W 4th St-Washington Square in both directions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacie Jane Posted February 23, 2012 Share #222 Posted February 23, 2012 I know that my 1st FASTRACK prediction was a little bit wrong, and my second one might be the same, so here is the one that will be affecting the Train lines between 59th St-Columbus Circle or 5th Av-53rd St and W 4th St-Washington Square in 3 different ways from 10:00 PM Monday March 12th-5:00 AM Friday March 16th:... Do we know where the boundaries of the Fastrack are going to be yet? I realize the 6th Avenue one ended at West 4th, so that may be a good indication, but I would still be surprised if the 8th Avenue one didn't go all the way to Jay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted February 24, 2012 Share #223 Posted February 24, 2012 Do we know where the boundaries of the Fastrack are going to be yet? I realize the 6th Avenue one ended at West 4th, so that may be a good indication, but I would still be surprised if the 8th Avenue one didn't go all the way to Jay. It does. Week of 3/12, 59th-Jay. My idea: via both directions © ends early via to 34th St, ( local 34-W4. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacie Jane Posted February 24, 2012 Share #224 Posted February 24, 2012 ( local 34-W4. *rolls eyes* Really? Most likely: end early. (and ) via 6th Avenue local; to 2nd Avenue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted February 24, 2012 Share #225 Posted February 24, 2012 Another option, with the to 2 Av: Local: Express: ( 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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