How many stations are there?

[Kacie Jane]

From the top of the forums page:

"The NYC subway is one of the oldest and most extensive public transportation systems in the world, with 468 stations in operation."

 

The number I remember from my childhood (and confirmed looking at a 1994 map I have) is 469. This is after the opening of Archer Avenue and 63rd Street, and before the Franklin shuttle reconstruction that closed the Dean Street station. So the number 468 is correct... except that Cortlandt Street is not currently in operation, so I think that line should probably read "467 stations in operation".

 

But my question is more so, "What constitutes a station?" When you count 467 or 468 stations, how do you count transfers? complexes?

 

Is Roosevelt Av and 74 St-Broadway one station or two?

Is 42nd Street one station, two stations (8th Avenue and Times Square), or five stations (each of the different lines that serves the complex)?

 

If anyone knows what the rules are, and where the number 468 came from, I'd love to be enlightened. :cool:

[Kamen Rider]

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[TwoTimer]

I guess 467 is back since Aqueduct Racetrack closed (albeit that is temporary as well, as they're building a direct covered overpass to the casino itself from the station, and I guess the station will reopen/be rehabbed when that's done.

[Fresh Pond]

468 individual, but I call it 466 since Cortlandt & Aqueduct Racetrack are closed (the latter for the season)

 

Back when Cortlandt was opened, I used to say 466.5 stations lol

[TwoTimer]

468 individual, but I call it 466 since Cortlandt & Aqueduct Racetrack are closed (the latter for the season)

 

Back when Cortlandt was opened, I used to say 466.5 stations lol

 

The latter was not for the season, they are doing some renovation work there, making a direct connection to the casino instead of walking through the parking lot.

[Fresh Pond]

The latter was not for the season, they are doing some renovation work there, making a direct connection to the casino instead of walking through the parking lot.

 

hmmm, interesting. i wonder if it includes fixing the station itself and putting real lights at the ends of the splatform instead of those string construction lights

[Kacie Jane]

there are 422 complexes. 42nd/PABT is in the same complex as 42nd/Times Sqaure, but not the same station.

 

468 stations, since Cortlandt's clouser is technicly temporary. Dean street was axed tottaly by the MTA, where as Cortlandt's was outside influnces.

 

Yes, it's temporary and due to "outside influences", but that means it's definitely not "in operation". Yeah, I know I'm being pedantic here, and I do apologize. But given that the station doesn't even exist at the moment, it's probably incorrect to include it in the count.

 

But none of the above responses really answer my question of what an "individual station" is. My best guess would be that it dates back to the days of the IRT, IND, and BMT, but that doesn't answer the question of why 59 St/Columbus Circle and 168 St/Washington Hts are treated as single stations.

 

You can't go solely by labels on the map, as a couple of those have been condensed. Most recently, Jay St/MetroTech has a single label on the map, as does Court Sq -- Court Sq-23 St is still separate, though. Does that mean there was one fewer station when they added the transfer between Jay Street and Lawrence Street? I doubt it, but it makes the question harder to answer I think.

[TwoTimer]

hmmm, interesting. i wonder if it includes fixing the station itself and putting real lights at the ends of the splatform instead of those string construction lights

 

They have done nothing to the station itself, its just that covered elevated walkway extending from the casino itself to the station that keeps progressing toward completion. It'd look finish to have this nice overpass and decrept looking station at the other end of it. I'll take another peek when I go by there on the since I'm over there tomorrow.

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[GreeneggsnPelham]

But none of the above responses really answer my question of what an "individual station" is.

 

From what I've read and heard from friends who are super familiar with the subway system, the way they get the 468 count is by counting individual stations, not complexes. So, Times Square on the , , and would be treated as four different stations in the count, despite being part of the same "complex".

[TwoTimer]

Which I guess would be correct as most cities only have a small handful of these "complexes" overall whereas NYC has multiple ones in each borough (except SI of course).