Guest MTA Bus Posted February 14, 2012 Share #1 Posted February 14, 2012 Do you think that NICE will order any New Flyer buses like the has ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted February 14, 2012 Share #2 Posted February 14, 2012 I would love to see some C40LF's out on Long Island, wearing the NICE colors, that is such a sweet bus! However, I don't think that will happen, all the buses are Orion's and they probably keep up that trend. It is easier to have one manufacturer, the mechanics are used to it and you don't have to keep parts for different manufacturers, just one. I would love to see some New Flyers or the new RTS end up in the NICE fleet though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted February 16, 2012 Share #3 Posted February 16, 2012 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted February 16, 2012 Share #4 Posted February 16, 2012 And any buses NICE buys are going to be CNGs since those are fuel pumps they have at the depots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted February 25, 2012 Share #5 Posted February 25, 2012 Do you think that NICE will order any New Flyer buses like the has ? it would be weird to see a New Flyer on NICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted February 25, 2012 Share #6 Posted February 25, 2012 At the community meeting, a representative of NICE said they were looking and talking to New Flyer about maybe purchasing articulated buses for the busier routes. I think they mentioned for the N6 and N22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted February 25, 2012 Share #7 Posted February 25, 2012 At the community meeting, a representative of NICE said they were looking and talking to New Flyer about maybe purchasing articulated buses for the busier routes. I think they mentioned for the N6 and N22. Interesting. Did they go into any more detail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted February 26, 2012 Share #8 Posted February 26, 2012 Very interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 26, 2012 Share #9 Posted February 26, 2012 Veolia has also had some talks with MTS reps. at APTA this year about high floor RTS express buses. Even though Veolia and Orion have a great relationship, anything is possible at this point. But you can bet your botton dollar that the 40' LF market will remain with Orion for the near future. It's not cost effective for them to introduce a new model into the fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted February 26, 2012 Share #10 Posted February 26, 2012 New Flyer artics? They could be XN60s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4 Via Merrick Rd Posted February 26, 2012 Share #11 Posted February 26, 2012 New Flyer artics? They could be XN60s! nah:eek: artics arent really fit for Nassau especially in Mineola during rush hours. i'd prefer a standard bus instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted February 26, 2012 Share #12 Posted February 26, 2012 Veolia has also had some talks with MTS reps. at APTA this year about high floor RTS express buses. Even though Veolia and Orion have a great relationship, anything is possible at this point. But you can bet your botton dollar that the 40' LF market will remain with Orion for the near future. It's not cost effective for them to introduce a new model into the fleet. Was that Veolia as a whole looking at the RTS or NICE? The NICE website says Michael Setzer "served as General Manager of large bus systems for Cincinnati, Minneapolis and St. Louis. While Roger Chapin "has managed major public transit systems in Denver and at Foothill Transit outside of Los Angeles. I would be surprised after having so much industry experience if these men haven't become loyal to certain equipment, and I wonder if this equipment will be slowly implemented into into NICE (if it isn't Orion). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East New York Posted February 26, 2012 Share #13 Posted February 26, 2012 Was that Veolia as a whole looking at the RTS or NICE? The NICE website says Michael Setzer "served as General Manager of large bus systems for Cincinnati, Minneapolis and St. Louis. While Roger Chapin "has managed major public transit systems in Denver and at Foothill Transit outside of Los Angeles. I would be surprised after having so much industry experience if these men haven't become loyal to certain equipment, and I wonder if this equipment will be slowly implemented into into NICE (if it isn't Orion). Veolia as a whole. NICE never even came up in the discussions from what I was told because they were not officially running the service at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted February 26, 2012 Share #14 Posted February 26, 2012 nah:eek: artics arent really fit for Nassau especially in Mineola during rush hours. i'd prefer a standard bus instead Well, all of Nassau is not Mineola. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted February 26, 2012 Share #15 Posted February 26, 2012 nah:eek: artics arent really fit for Nassau especially in Mineola during rush hours. i'd prefer a standard bus instead Well, all of Nassau is not Mineola. [sAYS] What about double deckers!?! [and DUCKS] LMAO:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted February 26, 2012 Share #16 Posted February 26, 2012 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted February 26, 2012 Share #17 Posted February 26, 2012 They might also get some Double Deckers a pilot on the n6/n22 (according to the Veolia execs at the meeting), so don't be surprised! How did they phrase it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted February 26, 2012 Share #18 Posted February 26, 2012 They might also get some Double Deckers a pilot on the n6/n22 (according to the Veolia execs at the meeting), so don't be surprised! I'm not surprised, I've been a long time supporter (before Veolia) of double deckers on routes such as the N4 and N6, it just makes sense. When I heard Veolia was taking over I thought there may be a possibility of seeing double deckers. I was just kidding around because it seems anybody who has mentioned double deckers in nassau county has gotten shit for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 26, 2012 Share #19 Posted February 26, 2012 They might also get some Double Deckers a pilot on the n6/n22 (according to the Veolia execs at the meeting), so don't be surprised! The thing is that double-deckers usually only work when the average ride is fairly long, because nobody's going to go all the way up to the upper deck just to get off 5 minutes later. But I guess if they have the express service, they know that nobody's going to get off between Jamaica and Hempstead/RFM respectively. But the thing is that the buses have to be crowded enough to justify double-deckers (and if the N6X is bypassing a whole bunch of stops, I question how crowded it will get. I hope you don't end up with crushloaded locals and relatively empty expresses/former limiteds) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty24 Posted February 26, 2012 Share #20 Posted February 26, 2012 I question how crowded it will get. I hope you don't end up with crushloaded locals and relatively empty expresses/former limiteds) Exactly! The N6 limited I ride in the AM during the week leaves the terminal with plenty of open seats depending on if other buses come in to the terminal. When we reach Fulton/Terrace we pick up about 3 people and Westminster about 3-4 as well. This new N6X won't have much people. The locals are probably going to be crowded! They should have left the limited instead of eliminating it. The N22 has a limited and now an express! The N6 should have a limited and express also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted February 27, 2012 Share #21 Posted February 27, 2012 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted February 27, 2012 Share #22 Posted February 27, 2012 I remember I seen some charter bus's Double-Decker bus near gas station along Hillside Av in Nassau. What routes have low-clearance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 27, 2012 Share #23 Posted February 27, 2012 Any route that passes under LIRR tracks, which is basically... all but two or three routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burrstone Posted February 27, 2012 Share #24 Posted February 27, 2012 Any route that passes under LIRR tracks, which is basically... all but two or three routes. According to the spec sheet for the "TD925 DOUBLE DECK INTERCITY COACH" http://www.abc-companies.com/images/models/VH_TD925_1-12.pdf The overall Height 13’ 1-1/16” Don't tractor trailers that need a clearance of 13' 5" use the same roads as most of the routes? Do the LIRR bridges you are talking about have low clearance signs? If an underpass has a clearance of at least 14 feet, legally they don't need low clearance signs. So if tractor trailers fit, why would a bus with a lower clearance have a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted February 28, 2012 Share #25 Posted February 28, 2012 "We would really want double deckers" - Veolia Rep. In a nutshell (also to Ty24 and CheckMate): Articulated busses are great but not for some routes that have tight turns and such, ridership could be killed if Articulated Busses require a route being realigned. A double decker offers the convenience of a single deck while carrying more passengers, thus N4/6/22/24 with Double Deck busses would work! And this time, you get a delicious candy! :cool: WTF doubledeckers on local OHH SHIT can they start a trend across the country here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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